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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated roster(Includes every player under contract or tendered/agreed to):

Players in Bold are the guys I figure are locks at this moment to make the roster, either due to talent, or their contract has a guarantee in it.

35 Players I have locked in as of now, not including Brock and Brooks.

QB- Brian Hoyer/Matt Barkley
RB- Carlos Hyde/Raheem Mostert/Mike Davis
FB- Kyle Juszczyk
WR- Pierre Garçon/Eric Rogers/DeAndre Smelter/DeAndre Carter
WR- Jeremy Kerley/Bruce Ellington
WR- Marquise Goodwin/Aldrick Robinson/Rashad Ross/Aaron Burbridge/Chris Harper
TE- Vance McDonald/Garrett Celek/Logan Paulsen/Blake Bell/Je'Ron Hamm
C- Daniel Kilgore/Alex Balducci
LG- Zane Beadles
RG- Joshua Garnett
LT- Joe Staley/John Theus
RT- Trent Brown/Norman Price

LEO- Aaron Lynch/Tank Carradine
NT- Earl Mitchell/Mike Purcell
DT- DeForest Buckner/Quinton Dial
DE- Arik Armstead/Ronald Blair/Zach Moore
OLB- Malcolm Smith/Eli Harold/Carl Bradford
MLB- NaVorro Bowman/Shayne Skov
OLB- Ahmad Brooks/Ray-Ray Armstrong/Wynton McManis
CB- Rashard Robinson/ Dontae Johnson/Prince Charles Iworah
CB- Tramaine Brock/JaCorey Shepherd
CB- K'Wuan Williams/Will Redmond/Keith Reaser
FS- Jimmie Ward/Marcus Ball
SS- Eric Reid/Jaquiski Tartt/Vinnie Sunseri

PK- Robbie Gould/Nick Rose
P- Bradley Pinion/Brock Miller
LS- Kyle Nelson

I'd love to see us add a few more FAs.

NT Johnathan Hankins
OLB Dont'a Hightower

Draft wise:

Obviously we need a QB of the future if we don't end up with Cousins, or we wait it out for 2018 when we can sign him without giving up any draft picks.
A true #2 RB behind Hyde, and a #3 RB(Not sold on Davis at all, wouldn't mind re-signing Harris)
Another WR, hopefully in the 1st 3 rounds
Interior OL help and depth(Since we didn't go after Zeitler, Warford, or Tretter)
A LEO(Someone like Solomon Thomas would do)
Another NT if we don't sign Hankins or someone else
OLB if we don't sign Hightower, or if we cut Brooks
CB if we cut Brock, or just because it would be good to have another solid young CB to develop
Backup FS

Some targets in the draft.

QB DeShaun Watson, DeShone Kizer, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb, Joshua Dobbs, Antonio Pipkin, Brad Kaaya, Nathan Peterman

RB Wayne Gallman, James Conner, Elijah Hood, T.J.Logan, Donnel Pumphrey, Jamaal Williams, Joe Williams, Marcus Cox, Brian Hill, Corey Clement, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Jeremy McNichols, Samaje Perine, Matthew Dayes, Boom Williams, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Tarean Folston, Elijah McGuire, Joe Mixon

WR Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Curtis Samuel, KD Cannon, Amara Darboh, Cooper Kupp, Zay Jones, Stacy Coley, Malachi Dupre, Travin Dural, Josh Reynolds, Gehrig Dieter, Taywan Taylor, Jalen Robinette, Jehu Chesson, Noah Brown, Carlos Henderson, Trent Taylor, Chad Hansen, Chris Godwin, Travis Rudolph, Artavis Scott, Dede Westbrook, ArDarius Stewart, Isaiah Ford, Mack Hollins, Ryan Switzer, Drew Morgan, Amba Etta-Tawo, Gabe Marks, Ricky Seals-Jones, Speedy Noil, Kenny Golladay, Damore'ea Stringfellow, Rodney Adams

TE Evan Engram, Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Jonnu Smith, Billy Brown, Michael Roberts, Eric Saubert, Cole Hikutini, George Kittle, Darrell Daniels, Pharoah Brown

C Pat Elflien, Ethan Pocic, Kyle Fuller, Jon Toth, Tyler Orlosky, Cameron Dillard

OG Forrest Lamp, Dion Dawkins, Taylor Moton, Dan Feeney, Dorian Johnson, Alex Kozan

OT Julien Davenport, Storm Norton, Avery Gennesy

LEO Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Charles Harris, Dawuane Smoot, Takkarist McKinley, Taco Charlton, Jordan Willis, Daeshon Hall, Tarell Basham, Derek Rivers, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Keionta Davis, DeMarcus Walker, Trey Hendrickson

DT Ryan Glasgow, Dalvin Tomlinson, Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Elijah Qualls, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones, Eddie Vanderdoes, Larry Ogunjobi, Jaleel Johnson, Tanzel Smart

OLB T.J. Watt, Ryan Anderson, Duke Riley, Jalen Reeves-Maybin, Jarrad Davis, Nick DeLuca, Tyus Bowser, Steven Taylor, Vince Biegel, Dylan Donahue

MLB Anthony Walker, Raekwon McMillan, Reuben Foster, Ben Gedeon, Ben Boulware, Kendell Beckwith, Marquel Lee, Hardy Nickerson, Tanner Vallejo, Christian Tago

CB Marshon Lattimore, Quincy Wilson, Teez Tabor, Gareon Conley, TreDavious White, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie, Ahkello Witherspoon, Marquez White, Des Lawrence, Demetrious Cox, Cameron Sutton, Desmond King, Sidney Jones, Howard Wilson, Marlon Humphrey, Rasul Douglas, Damontae Kazee, Cole Luke, Corn Elder, Sojourn Shelton, Aarion Penton, William Likely

S Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Tedric Thompson, Xavier Woods, Johnathan Ford, Justin Evans, Nate Andrews, Budda Baker, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Eddie Jackson, Obi Melifonwu, Lorenzo Jerome, Orion Stewart, Ahmad Thomas, Josh Jones, John Johnson, Leon McQuay III, Marcus Williams, Quincy Mauger

My man... very nice work! Let's keep feeding off of this

All add to the fun of cruddy rankings but a nice top 50 list. Lots of good players out there.

http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2017-nfl-free-agents-list/
Nice eval. You hit it all on the head
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated roster(Includes every player under contract or tendered/agreed to):

Players in Bold are the guys I figure are locks at this moment to make the roster, either due to talent, or their contract has a guarantee in it.

35 Players I have locked in as of now, not including Brock and Brooks.

QB- Brian Hoyer/Matt Barkley
RB- Carlos Hyde/Raheem Mostert/Mike Davis
FB- Kyle Juszczyk
WR- Pierre Garçon/Eric Rogers/DeAndre Smelter/DeAndre Carter
WR- Jeremy Kerley/Bruce Ellington
WR- Marquise Goodwin/Aldrick Robinson/Rashad Ross/Aaron Burbridge/Chris Harper
TE- Vance McDonald/Garrett Celek/Logan Paulsen/Blake Bell/Je'Ron Hamm
C- Daniel Kilgore/Alex Balducci
LG- Zane Beadles
RG- Joshua Garnett
LT- Joe Staley/John Theus
RT- Trent Brown/Norman Price

LEO- Aaron Lynch/Tank Carradine
NT- Earl Mitchell/Mike Purcell
DT- DeForest Buckner/Quinton Dial
DE- Arik Armstead/Ronald Blair/Zach Moore
OLB- Malcolm Smith/Eli Harold/Carl Bradford
MLB- NaVorro Bowman/Shayne Skov
OLB- Ahmad Brooks/Ray-Ray Armstrong/Wynton McManis
CB- Rashard Robinson/ Dontae Johnson/Prince Charles Iworah
CB- Tramaine Brock/JaCorey Shepherd
CB- K'Wuan Williams/Will Redmond/Keith Reaser
FS- Jimmie Ward/Marcus Ball
SS- Eric Reid/Jaquiski Tartt/Vinnie Sunseri

PK- Robbie Gould/Nick Rose
P- Bradley Pinion/Brock Miller
LS- Kyle Nelson

I'd love to see us add a few more FAs.

NT Johnathan Hankins
OLB Dont'a Hightower

Draft wise:

Obviously we need a QB of the future if we don't end up with Cousins, or we wait it out for 2018 when we can sign him without giving up any draft picks.
A true #2 RB behind Hyde, and a #3 RB(Not sold on Davis at all, wouldn't mind re-signing Harris)
Another WR, hopefully in the 1st 3 rounds
Interior OL help and depth(Since we didn't go after Zeitler, Warford, or Tretter)
A LEO(Someone like Solomon Thomas would do)
Another NT if we don't sign Hankins or someone else
OLB if we don't sign Hightower, or if we cut Brooks
CB if we cut Brock, or just because it would be good to have another solid young CB to develop
Backup FS

Some targets in the draft.

QB DeShaun Watson, DeShone Kizer, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb, Joshua Dobbs, Antonio Pipkin, Brad Kaaya, Nathan Peterman

RB Wayne Gallman, James Conner, Elijah Hood, T.J.Logan, Donnel Pumphrey, Jamaal Williams, Joe Williams, Marcus Cox, Brian Hill, Corey Clement, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Jeremy McNichols, Samaje Perine, Matthew Dayes, Boom Williams, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Tarean Folston, Elijah McGuire, Joe Mixon

WR Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Curtis Samuel, KD Cannon, Amara Darboh, Cooper Kupp, Zay Jones, Stacy Coley, Malachi Dupre, Travin Dural, Josh Reynolds, Gehrig Dieter, Taywan Taylor, Jalen Robinette, Jehu Chesson, Noah Brown, Carlos Henderson, Trent Taylor, Chad Hansen, Chris Godwin, Travis Rudolph, Artavis Scott, Dede Westbrook, ArDarius Stewart, Isaiah Ford, Mack Hollins, Ryan Switzer, Drew Morgan, Amba Etta-Tawo, Gabe Marks, Ricky Seals-Jones, Speedy Noil, Kenny Golladay, Damore'ea Stringfellow, Rodney Adams

TE Evan Engram, Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Jonnu Smith, Billy Brown, Michael Roberts, Eric Saubert, Cole Hikutini, George Kittle, Darrell Daniels, Pharoah Brown

C Pat Elflien, Ethan Pocic, Kyle Fuller, Jon Toth, Tyler Orlosky, Cameron Dillard

OG Forrest Lamp, Dion Dawkins, Taylor Moton, Dan Feeney, Dorian Johnson, Alex Kozan

OT Julien Davenport, Storm Norton, Avery Gennesy

LEO Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Charles Harris, Dawuane Smoot, Takkarist McKinley, Taco Charlton, Jordan Willis, Daeshon Hall, Tarell Basham, Derek Rivers, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Keionta Davis, DeMarcus Walker, Trey Hendrickson

DT Ryan Glasgow, Dalvin Tomlinson, Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Elijah Qualls, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones, Eddie Vanderdoes, Larry Ogunjobi, Jaleel Johnson, Tanzel Smart

OLB T.J. Watt, Ryan Anderson, Duke Riley, Jalen Reeves-Maybin, Jarrad Davis, Nick DeLuca, Tyus Bowser, Steven Taylor, Vince Biegel, Dylan Donahue

MLB Anthony Walker, Raekwon McMillan, Reuben Foster, Ben Gedeon, Ben Boulware, Kendell Beckwith, Marquel Lee, Hardy Nickerson, Tanner Vallejo, Christian Tago

CB Marshon Lattimore, Quincy Wilson, Teez Tabor, Gareon Conley, TreDavious White, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie, Ahkello Witherspoon, Marquez White, Des Lawrence, Demetrious Cox, Cameron Sutton, Desmond King, Sidney Jones, Howard Wilson, Marlon Humphrey, Rasul Douglas, Damontae Kazee, Cole Luke, Corn Elder, Sojourn Shelton, Aarion Penton, William Likely

S Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Tedric Thompson, Xavier Woods, Johnathan Ford, Justin Evans, Nate Andrews, Budda Baker, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Eddie Jackson, Obi Melifonwu, Lorenzo Jerome, Orion Stewart, Ahmad Thomas, Josh Jones, John Johnson, Leon McQuay III, Marcus Williams, Quincy Mauger

My wants
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Just a note on Eric Reid, his 2017 salary became guaranteed at 4PM EST Thursday when the new league year began, so the only way of getting cap relief is by trading him, and I'm not sure someone will take on a guaranteed $5.676M, unless they're the Browns lol, and I doubt they will give back anything significant.

Good depth.
I want the best C in the draft. Maybe round 2?
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I want the best C in the draft. Maybe round 2?

If Lamp can Snap, he'd be the best C and he seems like a first rounder.
Say what you will about Prag but he is a genius when it comes to negotiating these contracts and cap hits. Look at the breakdown of Garcon's contract. We have plenty of money left under the cap to go after Pryor, Poe and a few others. We are not done in free agency.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/3/10/14881166/pierre-garcon-contract-details-49ers-wrs-5-year-deal
Originally posted by Lutch57:
Say what you will about Prag but he is a genius when it comes to negotiating these contracts and cap hits. Look at the breakdown of Garcon's contract. We have plenty of money left under the cap to go after Pryor, Poe and a few others. We are not done in free agency.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/3/10/14881166/pierre-garcon-contract-details-49ers-wrs-5-year-deal

I personally think he's the best in the biz at contracts. Genuinely.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
DT and OC

Please football gods.

Yeah, heartbroken over Brandon Williams. And we lost out on J.C. Tretter. Not much left now.

Kilgore and Mitchell it is.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
DT and OC

Please football gods.

Yeah, heartbroken over Brandon Williams. And we lost out on J.C. Tretter. Not much left now.

Kilgore and Mitchell it is.

For NT, A lot of names still out there, here are my favorites (in no particular order):

Bennie Logan - NT (Phi)
Height: 6′ 2″, Weight: 309 lbs

Dontari Poe - NT (KC)
Height: 6′ 3″, Weight: 346 lbs

Domata Peko - NT (Cin)
Height: 6′ 3, Weight: 322 lbs

Johnathan Hankins - MT (NYG)
Height: 6′ 2″, Weight: 320 lbs
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Based on reports, Garcon, Goodwin, Hoyer, Kerley, Juszczyk, and Smith would add up to $32.05M based on APY for Goodwin, Juszczyk, Kerley, and Smith, plus my expected cap numbers for Garcon($8M) and Hoyer($6M).

So, they would replace players with $465K and $540K base salaries, That adds to $2.94M less than the $32.05, so $29.11M cap room used on those players projected, not sure what Paulsen and Gould got.

So, we had $100.761M, we should have around $72.651M, before Gould and Paulsen deals, or before any other roster moves, like cutting Brooks and Brock.

AB, is this figure counting the savings we got with cuts like T.Smith's ($4.675M), Bethea's ($5.75M) & M.Martin ($1.797M)?
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
DT and OC

Please football gods.

Yeah, heartbroken over Brandon Williams. And we lost out on J.C. Tretter. Not much left now.

Kilgore and Mitchell it is.

For NT, A lot of names still out there, here are my favorites (in no particular order):

Bennie Logan - NT (Phi)
Height: 6′ 2″, Weight: 309 lbs

Dontari Poe - NT (KC)
Height: 6′ 3″, Weight: 346 lbs

Domata Peko - NT (Cin)
Height: 6′ 3, Weight: 322 lbs

Johnathan Hankins - MT (NYG)
Height: 6′ 2″, Weight: 320 lbs

Poe is a wrecking ball at 350 lbs. Sheesh.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Based on reports, Garcon, Goodwin, Hoyer, Kerley, Juszczyk, and Smith would add up to $32.05M based on APY for Goodwin, Juszczyk, Kerley, and Smith, plus my expected cap numbers for Garcon($8M) and Hoyer($6M).

So, they would replace players with $465K and $540K base salaries, That adds to $2.94M less than the $32.05, so $29.11M cap room used on those players projected, not sure what Paulsen and Gould got.

So, we had $100.761M, we should have around $72.651M, before Gould and Paulsen deals, or before any other roster moves, like cutting Brooks and Brock.

AB, is this figure counting the savings we got with cuts like T.Smith's ($4.675M), Bethea's ($5.75M) & M.Martin ($1.797M)?

Right now, I have them at $92,581,849 under before knowing terms for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Gould, Paulsen, Robinson, Barkely, and Juszczyk, if we go off APY for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Robinson, and Juszczyk, that adds to $21.75M(I doubt that's the total), minus the 5 players they'd replace on top 51, which are, Iworah, Rogers, Balducci, Shepherd, and Burbridge, that $2.55M total, so only $19.2M off that number, so we'd be $73,381,849 under before knowing Paulsen, Gould, and Barkley's APYs.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right now, I have them at $92,581,849 under before knowing terms for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Gould, Paulsen, Robinson, Barkely, and Juszczyk, if we go off APY for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Robinson, and Juszczyk, that adds to $21.75M(I doubt that's the total), minus the 5 players they'd replace on top 51, which are, Iworah, Rogers, Balducci, Shepherd, and Burbridge, that $2.55M total, so only $19.2M off that number, so we'd be $73,381,849 under before knowing Paulsen, Gould, and Barkley's APYs.

The man has spoken! Thanks KingCap
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right now, I have them at $92,581,849 under before knowing terms for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Gould, Paulsen, Robinson, Barkely, and Juszczyk, if we go off APY for Kerley, Hoyer, Goodwin, Robinson, and Juszczyk, that adds to $21.75M(I doubt that's the total), minus the 5 players they'd replace on top 51, which are, Iworah, Rogers, Balducci, Shepherd, and Burbridge, that $2.55M total, so only $19.2M off that number, so we'd be $73,381,849 under before knowing Paulsen, Gould, and Barkley's APYs.

The man has spoken! Thanks KingCap

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