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Well there goes Williams, back to Baltimore.

https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/840014407077941250
[ Edited by AB81Rules on Mar 9, 2017 at 5:56 PM ]
WOW https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/840016765971226624

5yr $54M $27.5M GTD for Brandon Williams. Got more than Damon Harrison got.
Wow, that is a s**tload of money for a run stuffer. I don't think Williams is on Harrison's level, but he's pretty darn good against the run. Not sure thats worth that much money tho. He won't provide much of anything in the pass rush department.
Ok got some news on Garcon's deal, 5yr/$47.5M, $20M GTD($17M Fully), $12M Signing Bonus, $250K Per Game RBs each year, $100K Workout Bonuses each year, can make $16.025M in year 1, $23M over 2 years, 2017 base should be fully guaranteed, and $4.375M in 2018(probably $1.375M fully gtd at signing) base salaries, $3.675M(2017), $6.625M(2018), $5.65M(2019), $8.55M(2020), $9.25M(2021).

Salary Cap Numbers:

$6.425M in 2017
$9.375M in 2018
$8.4M in 2019
$11.3M in 2020
$12M in 2021
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Still need an NT that can eat up blockers, maybe some more depth at WRs, and of course QBs!

Also we need some more RBs. No way Kyle saw Mike Davis and said "yeah he's all we need behind Hyde". Maybe he loves someone in the draft?

Yeah I hope they add a NT like Brandon Williams, Johnathan Hankins or Dontari Poe, plus a OLB like Dont'a Hightower, and another WR.

RB wise, they could look at Latavius Murray, or a rookie, a lot of good backs in this years draft. It's a deep draft at RB IMO.

Not a fan of murray. I have friends that are raider fans and says he lacks vision, which is something that is damn important in our offense. If we don't get Fournette or Cook, a guy that almost everyone here would like and i would also is Alvin Kamara or McCaffery
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Wow, that is a s**tload of money for a run stuffer. I don't think Williams is on Harrison's level, but he's pretty darn good against the run. Not sure thats worth that much money tho. He won't provide much of anything in the pass rush department.

I'll say the same thing about him as I did about Damon Harrison last year...worth every penny!
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok got some news on Garcon's deal, 5yr/$47.5M, $20M GTD($17M Fully), $12M Signing Bonus, $250K Per Game RBs each year, $100K Workout Bonuses each year, can make $16.025M in year 1, $23M over 2 years, 2017 base should be fully guaranteed, and $4.375M in 2018(probably $1.375M fully gtd at signing) base salaries, $3.675M(2017), $6.625M(2018), $5.65M(2019), $8.55M(2020), $9.25M(2021).

Salary Cap Numbers:

$6.425M in 2017
$9.375M in 2018
$8.4M in 2019
$11.3M in 2020
$12M in 2021

$9.5 per. Thanks my man. Updated.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok got some news on Garcon's deal, 5yr/$47.5M, $20M GTD($17M Fully), $12M Signing Bonus, $250K Per Game RBs each year, $100K Workout Bonuses each year, can make $16.025M in year 1, $23M over 2 years, 2017 base should be fully guaranteed, and $4.375M in 2018(probably $1.375M fully gtd at signing) base salaries, $3.675M(2017), $6.625M(2018), $5.65M(2019), $8.55M(2020), $9.25M(2021).

Salary Cap Numbers:

$6.425M in 2017
$9.375M in 2018
$8.4M in 2019
$11.3M in 2020
$12M in 2021

$9.5 per. Thanks my man. Updated.

According to NFL Network Mike Garofolo, it's essentially a 3yr deal, with 2 dummy years at the end.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
According to NFL Network Mike Garofolo, it's essentially a 3yr deal, with 2 dummy years at the end.

Exactly! So really, $8M per.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 9, 2017 at 6:58 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
According to NFL Network Mike Garofolo, it's essentially a 3yr deal, with 2 dummy years at the end.

Exactly! So really, $8M per.

I'd have to crunch the numbers, but probably so, I can see him being here in 2020 and 2021, under a new deal, especially if Shanahan is HC and Cousins is QB.
Leo,CB I hope are the ones that are covered. If not I'm ready to kill this draft regardless.

Any great run stuffers in the draft?
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Leo,CB I hope are the ones that are covered. If not I'm ready to kill this draft regardless.

Any great run stuffers in the draft?
Not sure what's wrong with the corners we have. Very young with lots of potential.. especially in the nice and simple cov 3 scheme. I'd rather go safety, Hooker if we cant trade back, which keeps Ward at corner with Brock (maybe getting cut), Robinson, Redmond, and Ku'waun. Trade Reid for something nice, picks probably. Sign Poe/Hankins for run stuff. Sign Pryor. and go after the Leo/OL with 2nd/3rd, and take Peterman in the 4th.
Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Leo,CB I hope are the ones that are covered. If not I'm ready to kill this draft regardless.

Any great run stuffers in the draft?
Not sure what's wrong with the corners we have. Very young with lots of potential.. especially in the nice and simple cov 3 scheme. I'd rather go safety, Hooker if we cant trade back, which keeps Ward at corner with Brock (maybe getting cut), Robinson, Redmond, and Ku'waun. Trade Reid for something nice, picks probably. Sign Poe/Hankins for run stuff. Sign Pryor. and go after the Leo/OL with 2nd/3rd, and take Peterman in the 4th.

I'd be down with your plan but think if they "try" out Ward at FS he's gonna stay there but it could be a smokescreen for Hooker(in a trade down hopefully). I'm cool with not signing another WR because I think we'll end up going the draft route. I think Reid ends up competing with Tartt for the SS role and we see what we have in each.
Just a note on Eric Reid, his 2017 salary became guaranteed at 4PM EST Thursday when the new league year began, so the only way of getting cap relief is by trading him, and I'm not sure someone will take on a guaranteed $5.676M, unless they're the Browns lol, and I doubt they will give back anything significant.
My updated roster(Includes every player under contract or tendered/agreed to):

Players in Bold are the guys I figure are locks at this moment to make the roster, either due to talent, or their contract has a guarantee in it.

35 Players I have locked in as of now, not including Brock and Brooks.

QB- Brian Hoyer/Matt Barkley
RB- Carlos Hyde/Raheem Mostert/Mike Davis
FB- Kyle Juszczyk
WR- Pierre Garçon/Eric Rogers/DeAndre Smelter/DeAndre Carter
WR- Jeremy Kerley/Bruce Ellington
WR- Marquise Goodwin/Aldrick Robinson/Rashad Ross/Aaron Burbridge/Chris Harper
TE- Vance McDonald/Garrett Celek/Logan Paulsen/Blake Bell/Je'Ron Hamm
C- Daniel Kilgore/Alex Balducci
LG- Zane Beadles
RG- Joshua Garnett
LT- Joe Staley/John Theus
RT- Trent Brown/Norman Price

LEO- Aaron Lynch/Tank Carradine
NT- Earl Mitchell/Mike Purcell
DT- DeForest Buckner/Quinton Dial
DE- Arik Armstead/Ronald Blair/Zach Moore
OLB- Malcolm Smith/Eli Harold/Carl Bradford
MLB- NaVorro Bowman/Shayne Skov
OLB- Ahmad Brooks/Ray-Ray Armstrong/Wynton McManis
CB- Rashard Robinson/ Dontae Johnson/Prince Charles Iworah
CB- Tramaine Brock/JaCorey Shepherd
CB- K'Wuan Williams/Will Redmond/Keith Reaser
FS- Jimmie Ward/Marcus Ball
SS- Eric Reid/Jaquiski Tartt/Vinnie Sunseri

PK- Robbie Gould/Nick Rose
P- Bradley Pinion/Brock Miller
LS- Kyle Nelson

I'd love to see us add a few more FAs.

NT Johnathan Hankins
OLB Dont'a Hightower

Draft wise:

Obviously we need a QB of the future if we don't end up with Cousins, or we wait it out for 2018 when we can sign him without giving up any draft picks.
A true #2 RB behind Hyde, and a #3 RB(Not sold on Davis at all, wouldn't mind re-signing Harris)
Another WR, hopefully in the 1st 3 rounds
Interior OL help and depth(Since we didn't go after Zeitler, Warford, or Tretter)
A LEO(Someone like Solomon Thomas would do)
Another NT if we don't sign Hankins or someone else
OLB if we don't sign Hightower, or if we cut Brooks
CB if we cut Brock, or just because it would be good to have another solid young CB to develop
Backup FS

Some targets in the draft.

QB DeShaun Watson, DeShone Kizer, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb, Joshua Dobbs, Antonio Pipkin, Brad Kaaya, Nathan Peterman

RB Wayne Gallman, James Conner, Elijah Hood, T.J.Logan, Donnel Pumphrey, Jamaal Williams, Joe Williams, Marcus Cox, Brian Hill, Corey Clement, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Jeremy McNichols, Samaje Perine, Matthew Dayes, Boom Williams, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Tarean Folston, Elijah McGuire, Joe Mixon

WR Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Curtis Samuel, KD Cannon, Amara Darboh, Cooper Kupp, Zay Jones, Stacy Coley, Malachi Dupre, Travin Dural, Josh Reynolds, Gehrig Dieter, Taywan Taylor, Jalen Robinette, Jehu Chesson, Noah Brown, Carlos Henderson, Trent Taylor, Chad Hansen, Chris Godwin, Travis Rudolph, Artavis Scott, Dede Westbrook, ArDarius Stewart, Isaiah Ford, Mack Hollins, Ryan Switzer, Drew Morgan, Amba Etta-Tawo, Gabe Marks, Ricky Seals-Jones, Speedy Noil, Kenny Golladay, Damore'ea Stringfellow, Rodney Adams

TE Evan Engram, Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Jonnu Smith, Billy Brown, Michael Roberts, Eric Saubert, Cole Hikutini, George Kittle, Darrell Daniels, Pharoah Brown

C Pat Elflien, Ethan Pocic, Kyle Fuller, Jon Toth, Tyler Orlosky, Cameron Dillard

OG Forrest Lamp, Dion Dawkins, Taylor Moton, Dan Feeney, Dorian Johnson, Alex Kozan

OT Julien Davenport, Storm Norton, Avery Gennesy

LEO Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Charles Harris, Dawuane Smoot, Takkarist McKinley, Taco Charlton, Jordan Willis, Daeshon Hall, Tarell Basham, Derek Rivers, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Keionta Davis, DeMarcus Walker, Trey Hendrickson

DT Ryan Glasgow, Dalvin Tomlinson, Caleb Brantley, Carlos Watkins, Elijah Qualls, Montravius Adams, Jarron Jones, Eddie Vanderdoes, Larry Ogunjobi, Jaleel Johnson, Tanzel Smart

OLB T.J. Watt, Ryan Anderson, Duke Riley, Jalen Reeves-Maybin, Jarrad Davis, Nick DeLuca, Tyus Bowser, Steven Taylor, Vince Biegel, Dylan Donahue

MLB Anthony Walker, Raekwon McMillan, Reuben Foster, Ben Gedeon, Ben Boulware, Kendell Beckwith, Marquel Lee, Hardy Nickerson, Tanner Vallejo, Christian Tago

CB Marshon Lattimore, Quincy Wilson, Teez Tabor, Gareon Conley, TreDavious White, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie, Ahkello Witherspoon, Marquez White, Des Lawrence, Demetrious Cox, Cameron Sutton, Desmond King, Sidney Jones, Howard Wilson, Marlon Humphrey, Rasul Douglas, Damontae Kazee, Cole Luke, Corn Elder, Sojourn Shelton, Aarion Penton, William Likely

S Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Tedric Thompson, Xavier Woods, Johnathan Ford, Justin Evans, Nate Andrews, Budda Baker, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Eddie Jackson, Obi Melifonwu, Lorenzo Jerome, Orion Stewart, Ahmad Thomas, Josh Jones, John Johnson, Leon McQuay III, Marcus Williams, Quincy Mauger
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