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Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Saying players is a good pick unless outstanding in his first 2-3 years is pre mature. So lets atleast not call 2026 or 2025 a success because no one is a standout at this point. What would you say is the success rate is from 2020 to 2024?

The players that I mentioned as good picks in the last 3 drafts WERE understanding. If you read my post, you would see that I specifically didn't include guys like Stribling/Pearsall/Mykel etc because it's premature to call it either way... but even those guys have flashed.

Gracen Halton is a standout
Jaden Dugger is a standout
Romello Height is a standout
Kaelon Black is a standout

All 4 of these players are heavy contributors to the team's success and clearly a big part of the future.

De'Zhaun Stribling was a standout in pre-season and doing things no rookie WR had done in the last 25 years up to that point before his injury.

2022 and 2023 drafts were objectively horrifically bad. Terrible. Even with hitting a grand slam on Purdy in 2022 doesn't save that draft.

You know what the irony in that is though? A HUGE reason why those drafts were so terrible is because the team pissed away their 1st round picks for both years making a r****ded, ill advised "All in" trade for Trey Lance to be the future.

That "all-in trade" was for an unproven qb from FBSII school bro, not a proven NFL vet. You are comparing apples and oranges. Lol.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:

John Lynch needs to stop putting draft picks up on a pedestal, especially when he has a dominant winning team. I thought the goal was to win a Super Bowl and not look forward to the draft every year!!!! How about they bring in a GM that won't lose sight of that!!!!

who exactly was he going to trade top draft picks for? youre just yelling at clouds about John not making trades just to make trades. makes no sense.

the team has an aged roster. those picks are valuable to the team in a 49ers context. every team is built differently. every team has a different roadmap regarding their future. comparing what other teams trade strategies are has f**k all to do with the Niners.

Go back in the 10 years that he's been in SF and go look who he could've traded for. You call it yelling at the clouds, I'll call it how I see it.

This team has an aged roster whose fault is that. If he didn't miss on so many picks and only picked up veterans who have age, we wouldn't be saying this now would we.

And I ain't comparing s**t but you people keep saying l, why didn't this team give up this. How come no one else offered this or that. And in my post ai continue to say I could give a s**t about other teams.

Dude you're only on here to tell fans we can't be mad. Tell us fans we can't criticize. Does that make you a super fan better than everyone else. SMH

no im just here to comment on, highlight or expose dumb comments and arguments. youre making comments on a public forum. im sorry that when someone pushes back, it hurts your feelings.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by thl408:
I step away for a couple years and this is what the forum has become? Who the fook are these guys?

Twitter and Reddit (and the internet in general) are full of AI bot posters. they could be here already.

For sure bot posters are a thing but I don't think they are in football forums (yet?). These are just angry fans. Not sure why, 49ers are killing it.

They may be angry, but it feels like the internet has just become a place where people who like to argue can go to feel smart and strong, while sitting safely in their mom's basement.
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:

John Lynch needs to stop putting draft picks up on a pedestal, especially when he has a dominant winning team. I thought the goal was to win a Super Bowl and not look forward to the draft every year!!!! How about they bring in a GM that won't lose sight of that!!!!

who exactly was he going to trade top draft picks for? youre just yelling at clouds about John not making trades just to make trades. makes no sense.

the team has an aged roster. those picks are valuable to the team in a 49ers context. every team is built differently. every team has a different roadmap regarding their future. comparing what other teams trade strategies are has f**k all to do with the Niners.

Go back in the 10 years that he's been in SF and go look who he could've traded for. You call it yelling at the clouds, I'll call it how I see it.

This team has an aged roster whose fault is that. If he didn't miss on so many picks and only picked up veterans who have age, we wouldn't be saying this now would we.

And I ain't comparing s**t but you people keep saying l, why didn't this team give up this. How come no one else offered this or that. And in my post ai continue to say I could give a s**t about other teams.

Dude you're only on here to tell fans we can't be mad. Tell us fans we can't criticize. Does that make you a super fan better than everyone else. SMH

no im just here to comment on, highlight or expose dumb comments and arguments. youre making comments on a public forum. im sorry that when someone pushes back, it hurts your feelings.

This I mean no one is banning you from posting

it seems like you're wanting what you are criticizing people for which is someone to only agree with you
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Go back in the 10 years that he's been in SF and go look who he could've traded for. You call it yelling at the clouds, I'll call it how I see it.

This team has an aged roster whose fault is that. If he didn't miss on so many picks and only picked up veterans who have age, we wouldn't be saying this now would we.

And I ain't comparing s**t but you people keep saying l, why didn't this team give up this. How come no one else offered this or that. And in my post ai continue to say I could give a s**t about other teams.

Dude you're only on here to tell fans we can't be mad. Tell us fans we can't criticize. Does that make you a super fan better than everyone else. SMH

You can be mad. It's a free country, nobody is trying to get the authorites involved and have your door kicked down and taken to prison.

But conversely, we can also laugh at and mock the idiocy, hypocrisy, and whining about unrealistic standards behind the drivel you post.

You create unrealistic standards that NO GM OR TEAM HAS EVER LIVED UP TO, then when you destroyed in the thread with facts, context, logic and like comparisons, it's "Waaaaah!! Waaaaah!! I don't care about other teams and facts, I have a right to cry like a postpartum female and throw temper tantrums!!"

So go on, be mad. It's your right.

Just like it's our right to expose how ridiculous you sound and laugh.
Originally posted by thl408:
My post has nothing to do with difference of opinion. It's the manner in which people are posting. So much hostility.

The unbridled passion for a GM/ Lynch is weird.
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Saying players is a good pick unless outstanding in his first 2-3 years is pre mature. So lets atleast not call 2026 or 2025 a success because no one is a standout at this point. What would you say is the success rate is from 2020 to 2024?

The players that I mentioned as good picks in the last 3 drafts WERE understanding. If you read my post, you would see that I specifically didn't include guys like Stribling/Pearsall/Mykel etc because it's premature to call it either way... but even those guys have flashed.

Gracen Halton is a standout
Jaden Dugger is a standout
Romello Height is a standout
Kaelon Black is a standout

All 4 of these players are heavy contributors to the team's success and clearly a big part of the future.

De'Zhaun Stribling was a standout in pre-season and doing things no rookie WR had done in the last 25 years up to that point before his injury.

2022 and 2023 drafts were objectively horrifically bad. Terrible. Even with hitting a grand slam on Purdy in 2022 doesn't save that draft.

You know what the irony in that is though? A HUGE reason why those drafts were so terrible is because the team pissed away their 1st round picks for both years making a r****ded, ill advised "All in" trade for Trey Lance to be the future.

That "all-in trade" was for an unproven qb from FBSII school bro, not a proven NFL vet. You are comparing apples and oranges. Lol.

And then cascaded into 3 more years of bad picks.
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Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:

John Lynch needs to stop putting draft picks up on a pedestal, especially when he has a dominant winning team. I thought the goal was to win a Super Bowl and not look forward to the draft every year!!!! How about they bring in a GM that won't lose sight of that!!!!

who exactly was he going to trade top draft picks for? youre just yelling at clouds about John not making trades just to make trades. makes no sense.

the team has an aged roster. those picks are valuable to the team in a 49ers context. every team is built differently. every team has a different roadmap regarding their future. comparing what other teams trade strategies are has f**k all to do with the Niners.

Go back in the 10 years that he's been in SF and go look who he could've traded for. You call it yelling at the clouds, I'll call it how I see it.

This team has an aged roster whose fault is that. If he didn't miss on so many picks and only picked up veterans who have age, we wouldn't be saying this now would we.

And I ain't comparing s**t but you people keep saying l, why didn't this team give up this. How come no one else offered this or that. And in my post ai continue to say I could give a s**t about other teams.

Dude you're only on here to tell fans we can't be mad. Tell us fans we can't criticize. Does that make you a super fan better than everyone else. SMH

no im just here to comment on, highlight or expose dumb comments and arguments. youre making comments on a public forum. im sorry that when someone pushes back, it hurts your feelings.

This I mean no one is banning you from posting

it seems like you're wanting what you are criticizing people for which is someone to only agree with you

uhhhh....im certainly not looking for agreement from anyone and i'm definitely not the type who seeks acceptance in any way.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
And then cascaded into 3 more years of bad picks.

Great! You're finally understanding the consequences of what happens when you put all your chips into an "All In" trade and it doesn't work!
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by thl408:
I step away for a couple years and this is what the forum has become? Who the fook are these guys?

Oh right. Everyone is supposed to be a massive homer and if not you're not a fan right?

My post has nothing to do with difference of opinion. It's the manner in which people are posting. So much hostility.

You might want to go and see who's doing it.

Hint: anyone who criticizes John Lynch.
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Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Saying players is a good pick unless outstanding in his first 2-3 years is pre mature. So lets atleast not call 2026 or 2025 a success because no one is a standout at this point. What would you say is the success rate is from 2020 to 2024?

The players that I mentioned as good picks in the last 3 drafts WERE understanding. If you read my post, you would see that I specifically didn't include guys like Stribling/Pearsall/Mykel etc because it's premature to call it either way... but even those guys have flashed.

Gracen Halton is a standout
Jaden Dugger is a standout
Romello Height is a standout
Kaelon Black is a standout

All 4 of these players are heavy contributors to the team's success and clearly a big part of the future.

De'Zhaun Stribling was a standout in pre-season and doing things no rookie WR had done in the last 25 years up to that point before his injury.

2022 and 2023 drafts were objectively horrifically bad. Terrible. Even with hitting a grand slam on Purdy in 2022 doesn't save that draft.

You know what the irony in that is though? A HUGE reason why those drafts were so terrible is because the team pissed away their 1st round picks for both years making a r****ded, ill advised "All in" trade for Trey Lance to be the future.

People still not mentioning Stout as a standout. I've read several analysts who believe if he stays healthy he can be on an All Pro level. Love that dude.
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
That "all-in trade" was for an unproven qb from FBSII school bro, not a proven NFL vet. You are comparing apples and oranges. Lol.

Moving goal posts, I see.

Maybe you meant an "all in" trade like for Myles Garrett? Or did you mean Sauce Gardner?

Let's see what AI has to say about in season, all in trades in the NFL:

"AI Overview

No NFL team has ever traded multiple first-round picks during an in-season trade and gone on to win the Super Bowl in that same season. [1]
Trading multiple first-round picks for a veteran player mid-season is exceedingly rare—and historically, teams that part with massive draft capital mid-year rarely capture the Lombardi Trophy that same year: [1]"
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Kolohe:

John Lynch needs to stop putting draft picks up on a pedestal, especially when he has a dominant winning team. I thought the goal was to win a Super Bowl and not look forward to the draft every year!!!! How about they bring in a GM that won't lose sight of that!!!!

who exactly was he going to trade top draft picks for? youre just yelling at clouds about John not making trades just to make trades. makes no sense.

the team has an aged roster. those picks are valuable to the team in a 49ers context. every team is built differently. every team has a different roadmap regarding their future. comparing what other teams trade strategies are has f**k all to do with the Niners.

Go back in the 10 years that he's been in SF and go look who he could've traded for. You call it yelling at the clouds, I'll call it how I see it.

This team has an aged roster whose fault is that. If he didn't miss on so many picks and only picked up veterans who have age, we wouldn't be saying this now would we.

And I ain't comparing s**t but you people keep saying l, why didn't this team give up this. How come no one else offered this or that. And in my post ai continue to say I could give a s**t about other teams.

Dude you're only on here to tell fans we can't be mad. Tell us fans we can't criticize. Does that make you a super fan better than everyone else. SMH

no im just here to comment on, highlight or expose dumb comments and arguments. youre making comments on a public forum. im sorry that when someone pushes back, it hurts your feelings.

This I mean no one is banning you from posting

it seems like you're wanting what you are criticizing people for which is someone to only agree with you

uhhhh....im certainly not looking for agreement from anyone and i'm definitely not the type who seeks acceptance in any way.

I was agreeing with you and commenting on koloche
Originally posted by Cosmo:
People still not mentioning Stout as a standout. I've read several analysts who believe if he stays healthy he can be on an All Pro level. Love that dude.

Mentioned him in the post the other guy was referring to. I was only referencing the 2026 draft in my last reply.
Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
And then cascaded into 3 more years of bad picks.

Great! You're finally understanding the consequences of what happens when you put all your chips into an "All In" trade and it doesn't work!

And the 6 years of bad drafting and blown picks before that? Those don't count?

Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster
Javon Kinlaw
Dante Pettis
Drake Jackson
Mykel Williams
Alfred Collins

for someone who proclaims to be so smart you do have a short memory.
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