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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase aren't going anywhere. Both are probably 1st ballof HOF WR's and Chase has a HOF QB in his prime with him. Teams don't trade that caliber of player unless they are past their prime or they become extremely unhappy in their situation.

Originally posted by SB49er4life:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase aren't going anywhere. Both are probably 1st ballof HOF WR's and Chase has a HOF QB in his prime with him. Teams don't trade that caliber of player unless they are past their prime or they become extremely unhappy in their situation.

We will end up with one of them. Just not this year. Past Prime is our specialty.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

1 year in the NFL is like 5 human years. Alot can change in that time

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

1 year in the NFL is like 5 human years. Alot can change in that time

He's not getting move lol. Moving on

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

1 year in the NFL is like 5 human years. Alot can change in that time

He's not getting move lol. Moving on

I don't know that you're batting 1000 there NY with all your predictions

Originally posted by Silky:
I don't know that you're batting 1000 there NY with all your predictions

Who is lol? I would say I'm more right than wrong…got no problem owning up to it when I am.

imo the jets aren't moving Wilson whom they just paid and is clearly part of their future. It would cost them $30M + in dead money…I think we should be a little realistic.

you want to look at that Jets…I would focus on Will McDonald.

We have a ton of depth at WR. Don't see us making a trade for a WR.

We could use another situational edge rusher and some secondary help. I'd also argue adding another pass catching tight end could benefit the offense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who is lol? I would say I'm more right than wrong…got no problem owning up to it when I am.

imo the jets aren't moving Wilson whom they just paid and is clearly part of their future. It would cost them $30M + in dead money…I think we should be a little realistic.

you want to look at that Jets…I would focus on Will McDonald.

I know we occasionally disagree, but here I am totally of the same mind. There's no chance in hell the Jets are trading Wilson, not to us, not to anyone. I can't see the Aints moving Olave either. Why would they? They're midway through their rebuild, they flashed now and then, their division is terrible and thus winnable, why tear it all down again?

Of the usual names bandied around, Buckner is very possible if we want him (and he doesn't still hate our guts for 2020). I'm wondering about Godwin too - let's have an all-Tampa receiving corps! Now with added injury proneness!

But my predictions are famously wrong (I picked us to go 7-10 this year), so who knows.

Originally posted by paulk205:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who is lol? I would say I'm more right than wrong…got no problem owning up to it when I am.

imo the jets aren't moving Wilson whom they just paid and is clearly part of their future. It would cost them $30M + in dead money…I think we should be a little realistic.

you want to look at that Jets…I would focus on Will McDonald.

I know we occasionally disagree, but here I am totally of the same mind. There's no chance in hell the Jets are trading Wilson, not to us, not to anyone. I can't see the Aints moving Olave either. Why would they? They're midway through their rebuild, they flashed now and then, their division is terrible and thus winnable, why tear it all down again?

Of the usual names bandied around, Buckner is very possible if we want him (and he doesn't still hate our guts for 2020). I'm wondering about Godwin too - let's have an all-Tampa receiving corps! Now with added injury proneness!

But my predictions are famously wrong (I picked us to go 7-10 this year), so who knows.

If the saints are in the middle of their rebuild, then they need to blow it up

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by paulk205:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who is lol? I would say I'm more right than wrong…got no problem owning up to it when I am.

imo the jets aren't moving Wilson whom they just paid and is clearly part of their future. It would cost them $30M + in dead money…I think we should be a little realistic.

you want to look at that Jets…I would focus on Will McDonald.

I know we occasionally disagree, but here I am totally of the same mind. There's no chance in hell the Jets are trading Wilson, not to us, not to anyone. I can't see the Aints moving Olave either. Why would they? They're midway through their rebuild, they flashed now and then, their division is terrible and thus winnable, why tear it all down again?

Of the usual names bandied around, Buckner is very possible if we want him (and he doesn't still hate our guts for 2020). I'm wondering about Godwin too - let's have an all-Tampa receiving corps! Now with added injury proneness!

But my predictions are famously wrong (I picked us to go 7-10 this year), so who knows.

If the saints are in the middle of their rebuild, then they need to blow it up

They literally just paid Olave in July. It's not happening lol.

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
We have a ton of depth at WR. Don't see us making a trade for a WR.

We could use another situational edge rusher and some secondary help. I'd also argue adding another pass catching tight end could benefit the offense.

Yes. And all that depth is injured

I know we discussed DL and WR adds quite a bit. How about other units? Do we need secondary add here especially with Stout dinged up? Krueger brought up Alontae Taylor from the Titans. He also brought up Kyle Pitts if Falcons are open since we'll get our injured WRs back later. Any other secondary /TE players you guys like? Discuss.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
All this Garrett Wilson talk is irrelevant because the Jets aren't going to want to trade him anyway.

When they did their firesale last season and traded Quinnen Williams and Sauce, they made a point that they are not trading Wilson. They already have three 2027 1sts after those trades, and they clearly want him for whoever their next QB is going to be. He's more valuable to them than however much a fourth 2027 1st rounder would be.

We can dream about Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Carnell Tate, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase… but the other team has to actually be willing to trade the player.

1 year in the NFL is like 5 human years. Alot can change in that time

The Jets also drafted WRs Cooper 1st rd this year, and Mitchell 2nd rd 2024. They like them both and I could see them wanting to tank to get a top QB next year. Geno isn't going to cut it if they want to be a playoff team.

i would trade Mac if that would help convince them to trade Wilson.

Cap hits is probably a bigger issue for them.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
The Jets also drafted WRs Cooper 1st rd this year, and Mitchell 2nd rd 2024. They like them both and I could see them wanting to tank to get a top QB next year. Geno isn't going to cut it if they want to be a playoff team.

i would trade Mac if that would help convince them to trade Wilson.

Cap hits is probably a bigger issue for them.

The jets got Mitchell in the trade for Sauce. They didn't draft him. They literally paid Wilson last yr. They currently have 3 picks in the top 13 and probably at least 2 that will be top 10.

The only players than make any sense for them to move are guys they don't plan on resigning/extending. Not a young stud WR they just paid.

trading them Mac makes no sense if they're tanking for a QB…it's not happening my guy.

Originally posted by paulk205:
I know we occasionally disagree, but here I am totally of the same mind. There's no chance in hell the Jets are trading Wilson, not to us, not to anyone. I can't see the Aints moving Olave either. Why would they? They're midway through their rebuild, they flashed now and then, their division is terrible and thus winnable, why tear it all down again?

Of the usual names bandied around, Buckner is very possible if we want him (and he doesn't still hate our guts for 2020). I'm wondering about Godwin too - let's have an all-Tampa receiving corps! Now with added injury proneness!

But my predictions are famously wrong (I picked us to go 7-10 this year), so who knows.

Why wouldn't the Jets move Wilson? They've already proven that they will deal young under contract players. See Sauce Gardner.