John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Would someone remind me how Deforest left?

Both him and Arik Armstead wanted new contracts. We chose Armstead and traded Buckner because apparently we couldn't sign both

A team that trades for him right now we owe him about $14.9M for this season and then he's a free agent. That number goes down each week.

I think the choice was
- keep armstead and ward.
or just defo

Defo got us a first and we used it on kinlaw, which was obviously a bust.

Thanks!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Don't look at me, I'm not the one saying it!!! Just saying some on here don't think Buckner is good anymore.

For me, I'm good with whoever they trade for. For one I got no choice but to be good with the trade. Two the more help the merrier!!!!

Buck has been Buck for a while, think he was injured a little but anyone saying he's not good is unserious.

that said, while I'd be happy to add him the the team, I feel like we got a solid squad at IDL.

Feels like a Jimmy G win % argument here

buck is not ass, he's just not dominant anymore. Watch the tape.

We will need a lot more than just him alone, would rather go for a truly impact defensive player

Originally posted by ritz126:
And that just happened colts will now be sellers

Perfect timing, eh? Don't depend on me for predictions for the future (I also picked us to go 7-10 in the PYMWYMI thread ).

Love Defo, but I don't know if I want another IDL coming in and taking pass rushing reps from Halton. Unless you're okay with keeping Defo on the bench on most money downs, it kind of doesn't make sense.

A big time base run stopper? Sure, I'd love to trade for one of those.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Both him and Arik Armstead wanted new contracts. We chose Armstead and traded Buckner because apparently we couldn't sign both

A team that trades for him right now would owe him about $14.9M for this season and then he's a free agent. That number goes down each week.

Dont think thats correct. Think its more like 7 mil in proration. Roster bonus has already been paid and 9ers wouldn't owe any signing bonus.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Get Mack and Buckner

Originally posted by Heroism:
Love Defo, but I don't know if I want another IDL coming in and taking pass rushing reps from Halton. Unless you're okay with keeping Defo on the bench on most money downs, it kind of doesn't make sense.

A big time base run stopper? Sure, I'd love to trade for one of those.

Buck would have to be willing to run stop or it doesn't make much sense.

A'Shawn Robinson would be a guy who makes sense and will be cheap to acquire.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Don't look at me, I'm not the one saying it!!! Just saying some on here don't think Buckner is good anymore.

For me, I'm good with whoever they trade for. For one I got no choice but to be good with the trade. Two the more help the merrier!!!!

Buck has been Buck for a while, think he was injured a little but anyone saying he's not good is unserious.

that said, while I'd be happy to add him the the team, I feel like we got a solid squad at IDL.

Feels like a Jimmy G win % argument here

buck is not ass, he's just not dominant anymore. Watch the tape.

We will need a lot more than just him alone, would rather go for a truly impact defensive player

I think Buckner has been a victim of a bad team around him. There's talent on that defense but it seems like coaching has been the problem. Not sure if he can play in Morris's defense but Morris has the defense firing on all cylinders.

Gonna be interesting to see what the Colts want for Buckner my guess is a 3rd round pick.

Trading Buckner in 2020 was, by far, the most indefensible move Lynch/Shanahan have made. Moving up to draft Lance was more damaging, but at the time it was defensible. Buckner was elite and had years of his prime left. He was easily a better player than Armstead and Ward was replaceable. They had Buckner and Bosa on the line. One guy four years into his career and the other guy just coming off his rookie year.

I'm not saying they should necessarily trade for him now, they need more help at the edge. That needs to be the #1 priority at the deadline, not WR.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Vita Vea is needed! Clogger with push up the middle.

Someone smarter than me said that Vea fits the 1T whereas Buckner, Gracen Halton and Osa O are more of 3Ts.

I'd say:

1. Vea
2. Khalil Mack

and if there's a fit in scheme the Colt player:

Quenton Nelson

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With this start the focus now shifts to matching with teams that will run the ball.

Seattle will get their back back
Rams aren't done
Vikings
Packers
Bears

AFC

Chefs
Ravens
Patriots
Bills

Enough with this Vea stuff. Bucs aren't trading him! They just resigned him and will take a big capt hit if they do.

I disagree with your crystal ball.

Everyone has a price. A sensible price. Tampa is going nowhere fast and needs to change direction because they need players and a rebuild. $19.6 dead cap is anything but crippling for only 2027 for any team.

The 49ers window is now and they need that type of player!

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Both him and Arik Armstead wanted new contracts. We chose Armstead and traded Buckner because apparently we couldn't sign both

A team that trades for him right now would owe him about $14.9M for this season and then he's a free agent. That number goes down each week.

Dont think thats correct. Think its more like 7 mil in proration. Roster bonus has already been paid and 9ers wouldn't owe any signing bonus.

Even better!

Originally posted by tankle104:
Ballard fired! Poach the talent!!!

Everything must go! DeFo come home. Keenan Allen come home (Cal).

IMO our biggest need is

1. Edge - go get a player we can invest long term in or get K Mack for a 1 year rental.
2. WR - tricky. On one hand we need someone now and in order to do that we would need someone who knows the system.On the other hand I like Thomas from Jacksonville but he won't contribute immediately

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Get Mack and Buckner

Mack definitely needs to be had.

The arguements and understandibly so as to who is the best fit on the interior defensive front.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Love Defo, but I don't know if I want another IDL coming in and taking pass rushing reps from Halton. Unless you're okay with keeping Defo on the bench on most money downs, it kind of doesn't make sense.

A big time base run stopper? Sure, I'd love to trade for one of those.

THIS is the entire thought and debate!