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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think if we beat Seattle this week, we need to be one of the serious teams in making trades before the deadline. We would have sole control of how our season goes with the next two big divisional games being both at home against the Seahawks and Rams.

Yeah we still potentially have Mac Jones as trade bait. Jimmy Garoppolo can back up Purdy after Mac is traded.

Garoppolo is finished. Better off putting Rourke in play, who does, in my view, have a future in the NFL. But on the whole I would prefer to hang on to Mac for now.
Originally posted by English:
Garoppolo is finished. Better off putting Rourke in play, who does, in my view, have a future in the NFL. But on the whole I would prefer to hang on to Mac for now.

They have Rourke to back up Brock why the hell would they bring back Jimmy?? 😂
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.

I'm telling you all:

Jeffrey Simmons. Call Saleh. Offer him CJ West, a 1st and another mid-round pick.

Shoot don't look at me, I'm all for that!!! Anything that involves a 1st round pick count me in. I want someone that's gonna make a difference!!!

I understand SF hasn't been amazing with that 1st rd pick BUT this 27 class is suppose to be pretty epic and full of talent.
I think it's either gonna be Mack or Josh Sweat. They will be snagged a DE at some point.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I think if we beat Seattle this week, we need to be one of the serious teams in making trades before the deadline. We would have sole control of how our season goes with the next two big divisional games being both at home against the Seahawks and Rams.

Yeah we still potentially have Mac Jones as trade bait. Jimmy Garoppolo can back up Purdy after Mac is traded.

Garoppolo is finished. Better off putting Rourke in play, who does, in my view, have a future in the NFL. But on the whole I would prefer to hang on to Mac for now.

Jimmy has playoff experience, so he'll not be overwhelmed (in a sense) the way Rourke would, and again Jimmy will back up Purdy, not be the starter. So, In A sense our season is not over if something happens to Brock (knock on wood) and we've traded Mac. Jimmy was able to get the team into the Superbowl. Rourke's never been in the playoffs.

Again, if a team offers a 2nd round and additional day three picks, that would be hard to turn down in my book.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think it's either gonna be Mack or Josh Sweat. They will be snagged a DE at some point.

I would be surprised AF if the Cards traded Sweat within the NFCW!!!! That's why I'm not even thinking about him. I think TJ Watt traded to the 9ers is more realistic than Sweat to the 9ers. Which brings me to my conclusion that I bet it's also Khalil Mack when it's all said and done.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think it's either gonna be Mack or Josh Sweat. They will be snagged a DE at some point.

I'd rather Sweat, but don't see the Cards dealing him to a divisional rival. If Mack could contribute I guess I'd be ok, but he's old.
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Originally posted by Cosmo:
I'd rather Sweat, but don't see the Cards dealing him to a divisional rival. If Mack could contribute I guess I'd be ok, but he's old.
At this point in his career, Mack is a rotational pass rusher. I don't see much of what he was two years ago. Still, if the price were right (I don't know what that is), he would be a nice piece to have.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.
Osa isn't that good!

Chargers and Tampa Bay are being reported to be on the verge of unloading. Mack's contract is expiring at the end of the season. And, Vea seems to have put a gun to the organization's head to get an extension.

With the way this team's players drop like flies and are thin on the D-line why not.

Give up the later picks this year and next and then trade the late, late 1st in '27 and regain those lost picks.

Let's go! Why do ya'll think Mike Evans, Greenlaw etc are here. The window is still slightly open.

Have you forgotten how the Shehawks destroyed this team along the lines on their way to a chip!

🤦🏽‍♂
The Seahawks beat a crippled 49er team that had lost tons of star power. I think you remember that.

Also, the Seattle offense is much less potent this year having lost Kenneth Walker to KC. I see this upcoming game as a toss-up, even at their house.
There's an excuse for everything when we really boil it down to it.

Why not just be better than what we have now?!

Remember two recent Super Bowl loses.

What does "two recent Super Bowl losses!" have absolutely anything to do with this conversation?

I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"
"I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"-- Super Silly

Back in '95 it took an assembly of stellar talent led by Deion to get over Dallas and then smash the Chargers in Super Bowl.

Let me say it for you youngings a little slower:

The
More
Talent
And
The
Better
The
Team
The
Greater
The
Chances
At
Winning
IT
!!!
[ Edited by Niner4ever on Oct 6, 2026 at 1:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.
Osa isn't that good!

Chargers and Tampa Bay are being reported to be on the verge of unloading. Mack's contract is expiring at the end of the season. And, Vea seems to have put a gun to the organization's head to get an extension.

With the way this team's players drop like flies and are thin on the D-line why not.

Give up the later picks this year and next and then trade the late, late 1st in '27 and regain those lost picks.

Let's go! Why do ya'll think Mike Evans, Greenlaw etc are here. The window is still slightly open.

Have you forgotten how the Shehawks destroyed this team along the lines on their way to a chip!

🤦🏽‍♂
The Seahawks beat a crippled 49er team that had lost tons of star power. I think you remember that.

Also, the Seattle offense is much less potent this year having lost Kenneth Walker to KC. I see this upcoming game as a toss-up, even at their house.
There's an excuse for everything when we really boil it down to it.

Why not just be better than what we have now?!

Remember two recent Super Bowl loses.

What does "two recent Super Bowl losses!" have absolutely anything to do with this conversation?

I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"
Back in '95 it took an assembly of stellar talent led by Deion to get over Dallas and then smash the Chargers in Super Bowl.

Let me say it for you youngings a little slower:

The
More
Talent
And
The
Better
The
Team
The
Greater
The
Chances
At
Winning
IT
!!!
You're not saying anything new that has been said here with the talent statement

plus, our last two SBs we had the most and better talent
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.
Osa isn't that good!

Chargers and Tampa Bay are being reported to be on the verge of unloading. Mack's contract is expiring at the end of the season. And, Vea seems to have put a gun to the organization's head to get an extension.

With the way this team's players drop like flies and are thin on the D-line why not.

Give up the later picks this year and next and then trade the late, late 1st in '27 and regain those lost picks.

Let's go! Why do ya'll think Mike Evans, Greenlaw etc are here. The window is still slightly open.

Have you forgotten how the Shehawks destroyed this team along the lines on their way to a chip!

🤦🏽‍♂
The Seahawks beat a crippled 49er team that had lost tons of star power. I think you remember that.

Also, the Seattle offense is much less potent this year having lost Kenneth Walker to KC. I see this upcoming game as a toss-up, even at their house.
There's an excuse for everything when we really boil it down to it.

Why not just be better than what we have now?!

Remember two recent Super Bowl loses.

What does "two recent Super Bowl losses!" have absolutely anything to do with this conversation?

I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"
Back in '95 it took an assembly of stellar talent led by Deion to get over Dallas and then smash the Chargers in Super Bowl.

Let me say it for you youngings a little slower:

The
More
Talent
And
The
Better
The
Team
The
Greater
The
Chances
At
Winning
IT
!!!
You're not saying anything new that has been said here with the talent statement

plus, our last two SBs we had the most and better talent
Wrong!!!

Jimmy G couldn't throw the ball beyond 15- 20 yards. So no!

And, some of you take it personal to say that this team can get better and should get better. Especially since they're always dropping like flies.

Its as if some of you know Lynch personally lol

Seems like I am saying something new because posters are against getting better. My God
[ Edited by Niner4ever on Oct 6, 2026 at 1:30 PM ]
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.
Osa isn't that good!

Chargers and Tampa Bay are being reported to be on the verge of unloading. Mack's contract is expiring at the end of the season. And, Vea seems to have put a gun to the organization's head to get an extension.

With the way this team's players drop like flies and are thin on the D-line why not.

Give up the later picks this year and next and then trade the late, late 1st in '27 and regain those lost picks.

Let's go! Why do ya'll think Mike Evans, Greenlaw etc are here. The window is still slightly open.

Have you forgotten how the Shehawks destroyed this team along the lines on their way to a chip!

🤦🏽‍♂
The Seahawks beat a crippled 49er team that had lost tons of star power. I think you remember that.

Also, the Seattle offense is much less potent this year having lost Kenneth Walker to KC. I see this upcoming game as a toss-up, even at their house.
There's an excuse for everything when we really boil it down to it.

Why not just be better than what we have now?!

Remember two recent Super Bowl loses.

What does "two recent Super Bowl losses!" have absolutely anything to do with this conversation?

I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"
Back in '95 it took an assembly of stellar talent led by Deion to get over Dallas and then smash the Chargers in Super Bowl.

Let me say it for you youngings a little slower:

The
More
Talent
And
The
Better
The
Team
The
Greater
The
Chances
At
Winning
IT
!!!
You're not saying anything new that has been said here with the talent statement

plus, our last two SBs we had the most and better talent
Wrong!!!

Jimmy G couldn't throw the ball beyond 15- 20 yards. So no!

And, some of you take it personal to say that this team can get better and should get better. Especially since they're always dropping like flies.

Its as if some of you know Lynch personally lol

Seems like I am saying something new because posters are against getting better. My God
lol looks like you missed a SB

plus jimmy dropped a dime to Kittle in that game. We had the most and better talent in that game. No doubt

same in the second meeting.

And my slow friend, no one is saying don't add more talent.

the point of my post is you need more than just having more talent
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
I'd rather Sweat, but don't see the Cards dealing him to a divisional rival. If Mack could contribute I guess I'd be ok, but he's old.
At this point in his career, Mack is a rotational pass rusher. I don't see much of what he was two years ago. Still, if the price were right (I don't know what that is), he would be a nice piece to have.

I can't imagine it would cost a lot to get Mack either. I hope they can make that happen!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
For the defense I'd say Khalil Mack & Vita Vea.

I remember an older guy like Tim Harris that contributed in '95

Mack still has juice and isn't a big deal dead cap wise. I may be mistaken but isn't it around $28 mil dead cap for Vea:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2026 Dead Cap: $8,534,460
2027 Dead Cap: $19,644,000

You guys are dreaming if you think Lynch is gonna pick up two more players. Remember he already traded for Osa this season. Honestly what he needs to do is spend a 1st and more to get a real player in here to move the needle.
Osa isn't that good!

Chargers and Tampa Bay are being reported to be on the verge of unloading. Mack's contract is expiring at the end of the season. And, Vea seems to have put a gun to the organization's head to get an extension.

With the way this team's players drop like flies and are thin on the D-line why not.

Give up the later picks this year and next and then trade the late, late 1st in '27 and regain those lost picks.

Let's go! Why do ya'll think Mike Evans, Greenlaw etc are here. The window is still slightly open.

Have you forgotten how the Shehawks destroyed this team along the lines on their way to a chip!

🤦🏽‍♂
The Seahawks beat a crippled 49er team that had lost tons of star power. I think you remember that.

Also, the Seattle offense is much less potent this year having lost Kenneth Walker to KC. I see this upcoming game as a toss-up, even at their house.
There's an excuse for everything when we really boil it down to it.

Why not just be better than what we have now?!

Remember two recent Super Bowl loses.

What does "two recent Super Bowl losses!" have absolutely anything to do with this conversation?

I swear some of y'all actually obsessively hate the 49ers lmao. "Remember when Colt McCoy beat us in 2021? That's why we need to fire Lynch!!"
Back in '95 it took an assembly of stellar talent led by Deion to get over Dallas and then smash the Chargers in Super Bowl.

Let me say it for you youngings a little slower:

The
More
Talent
And
The
Better
The
Team
The
Greater
The
Chances
At
Winning
IT
!!!
You're not saying anything new that has been said here with the talent statement

plus, our last two SBs we had the most and better talent
Wrong!!!

Jimmy G couldn't throw the ball beyond 15- 20 yards. So no!

And, some of you take it personal to say that this team can get better and should get better. Especially since they're always dropping like flies.

Its as if some of you know Lynch personally lol

Seems like I am saying something new because posters are against getting better. My God
lol looks like you missed a SB

plus jimmy dropped a dime to Kittle in that game. We had the most and better talent in that game. No doubt

same in the second meeting.

And my slow friend, no one is saying don't add more talent.

the point of my post is you need more than just having more talent
Wong again! Chris Jones manhandled the O-line. This version of the O-line seems to be more talented. However the D-line can use a pass rusher and plug with push in the middle.

This team has a better QB, true #1 receiver, dual threat at RB, veteran Deebo and still a weapon in Kittle.

There is talent, experience and smarts. And yet if there's still room for improvement. Why not?

So "if no one is saying don't add more talent" then what's the problem?! Talk about slow!
[ Edited by Niner4ever on Oct 6, 2026 at 2:51 PM ]
  • dj43
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
I'd rather Sweat, but don't see the Cards dealing him to a divisional rival. If Mack could contribute I guess I'd be ok, but he's old.
At this point in his career, Mack is a rotational pass rusher. I don't see much of what he was two years ago. Still, if the price were right (I don't know what that is), he would be a nice piece to have.

I can't imagine it would cost a lot to get Mack either. I hope they can make that happen!
In looking more closely at what he has done this season, I was wrong about him. He is still playing a fair number of snaps and at a pretty high level. Definitely worth a conditional 5th if the condition is a Super Bowl.

KHALIL MACK | EDGE | LOS ANGELES CHARGERS Current Trade Cap: $6.22M

Deadline Trade Cap: $4M
The 0-4 Chargers have little reason to hold a 35-year-old pending free agent if their season continues to slide. Mack signed a 1-year, $18M contract, with his $10M signing bonus already paid, leaving $6.22M in 2026 salary for an acquiring team today.

Potential Trade Compensation: Conditional 4th-Rd/5th-Rd depending on salary retention

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/3524/10-early-nfl-trade-candidates
[ Edited by dj43 on Oct 6, 2026 at 3:11 PM ]
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