John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Chance:
I honestly don't think there's anyone really glazing every move. In general, the sum of all of our moves has us consistently competing year in year out. We've had some misses, but also some big hits. Every FO has a mixed record. The people who complain show the least amount of nuance, imo. I see far more people panning the FO over every single thing that happens while never giving them their flowers. And as usual, fans rarely employ a nuanced perspective. I think the last two drafts are looking pretty good after some underwhelming drafts. To see guys like Colby, Sigle, Stout, Black, Duggar, Halton as quality starters right now (with injured guys like Mykel and Strib having looked good in limited time), to me at least, gives this FO a bit more leash. They needed to restock the cupboard, and seem to have risen to the occasion. I also thought the offseason was quietly good with a limited budget.

That's the whole issue with this regime.

Lynch and Shanahan reach on guys they think are system fits every single year in rounds 1-3 then the scouts and position coaches take over and they have success in rounds 4-7

That's f**king b******t. You aren't in the draft room. You can't just assign credit to nebulous other people in the organization simply because it suits your narrative. That's not how reality works. You're exactly who I'm talking about when I say there are posters here who wholly lack nuance.

It's common knowledge that the back end of the draft is is highly influenced by the scouts and position coaches. Every team does it

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by jcs:
32 years since our last championship and lynch has been involved in 10 years of that drought. He also managed what is described as the worst nfl trade in the last decade for the trey lance debacle.

Then made one of the greatest draft selections in NFL history the next year. Becomes a push.

Purdy wasn't a Lynch selection. Brian Griese pounded the table for him.

lol

What's so funny about the truth? Even Lynch has said as much

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-180545/

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Only the mistakes apparently.

And if you follow their drafts there has been plenty

Doesn't make my statement any less true.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by jcs:
32 years since our last championship and lynch has been involved in 10 years of that drought. He also managed what is described as the worst nfl trade in the last decade for the trey lance debacle.

Then made one of the greatest draft selections in NFL history the next year. Becomes a push.

Purdy wasn't a Lynch selection. Brian Griese pounded the table for him.

lol

What's so funny about the truth? Even Lynch has said as much

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-180545/

because you don't know how it works or how the 49ers work when drafting.

Do you know what a scout is or what their job is to do? Lynch isn't the only one doing all the work and making the picks.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
It's common knowledge that the back end of the draft is is highly influenced by the scouts and position coaches. Every team does it

Is it highly influenced or is it taken over? Sounds like you're backtracking.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
How good was this team before Lynch and Shanny got here? People crying that they want him fired should try being Browns fans. 1989 was the last time they even won their division.

32 years since our last championship and lynch has been involved in 10 years of that drought. He also managed what is described as the worst nfl trade in the last decade for the trey lance debacle.

Trey Lance trade was bad. But no. It was not the worst trade in the last decade. The two future 1sts became #29 overall. There are far worse trades than that. Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson were both worse.

If the Dolphins had become a contender (or at least won their first playoff game since the Twin Towers were still standing), or one of those future 1sts became a premium pick (or even a top 20 pick), or we were still looking for a QB (or simply didn't end up with a franchise QB anyway), maybe you would have a point. But none of those happened.

I know how you will respond. "bUt wE dIdNt wIn SUPER BOWL!!!" Okay. That doesn't make this the worst trade of the last decade. Not even close.

Yea, the Watson trade is worse, because not only did they give up picks they also gave him a fully guaranteed contract.

Watson was a proven QB and coming off a few elite seasons. Then he ran into trouble and got hurt. And currently he is leading a 3-1 Browns team.

Trey Lance was an un-proven QB with one year of experience.

Spin it however you want but It was a horrendous trade and probably the worst trade in NFL history IMO considering he did absolutely nothing for us.

Nah, no way is it worse than the Watson trade. Considering spot what each draft pick ended up being, they gave up way more for Watson than we did for Lance + $235 million guaranteed which made it impossible for them to ever move on from him. They knew when they traded for him that he had screwed over the Texans by demanding a trade right after signing an extension with them, sat out a year, and had 23 sexual assault allegations. Helping them to a 3-1 record in year 5 (!) of his contract does not suddenly make it better.

The Lance trade was bad, but lots of teams have drafted busts with high picks.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Nah, no way is it worse than the Watson trade. Considering spot what each draft pick ended up being, they gave up way more for Watson than we did for Lance + $235 million guaranteed which made it impossible for them to ever move on from him. They knew when they traded for him that he had screwed over the Texans by demanding a trade right after signing an extension with them, sat out a year, and had 23 sexual assault allegations. Helping them to a 3-1 record in year 5 (!) of his contract does not suddenly make it better.

The Lance trade was bad, but lots of teams have drafted busts with high picks.

At least Watson is playing and making an impact

Sure, plenty of teams drafted busts with high picks but how many trade 3 first round picks to draft that bust?

its even worse when you look at the HOF calibre players we passed on to draft him.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by jcs:
32 years since our last championship and lynch has been involved in 10 years of that drought. He also managed what is described as the worst nfl trade in the last decade for the trey lance debacle.

Then made one of the greatest draft selections in NFL history the next year. Becomes a push.

Purdy wasn't a Lynch selection. Brian Griese pounded the table for him.

lol

What's so funny about the truth? Even Lynch has said as much

https://www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-180545/

because you don't know how it works or how the 49ers work when drafting.

Do you know what a scout is or what their job is to do? Lynch isn't the only one doing all the work and making the picks.

In the first few rounds Lynch and Shanahan identity the guys they want. In the later rounds it's the scouts finding the gems.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?