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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Right, but I agree with NY that we seem to take a worse ranked position of need over BPA in the first couple rounds. I get that the reality of the draft is you can't always do BPA cause of needs etc, but it's usually best practice.

who knows, hopefully stuff gets better. our last few drafts have had some good players who've contributed. If we can get 2-3 quality players a draft, that's a solid draft. you hope you get better but the reality is that most selections amount to literally nothing, for every team.

Since 2019 ShanaLynch has been below 10 wins (10 because that's almost a guarantee of making the playoffs if a team wins ten games) only twice. That's almost 8 years and only two where they didn't make the playoffs. They must be doing something right.
I agree with this, but the amount of early misses in the draft is probably the difference in getting over the hump.
I was at a bar recently and we got to talking and yah, the 49ers just draft very poorly. That is their biggest flaw I think.

Trey Lance, Kinlaw, Trwy Sermon are some examples. They like to think they are getting these gems in later rounds but the picks in the premium rounds have been very suspect!
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
I was at a bar recently and we got to talking and yah, the 49ers just draft very poorly. That is their biggest flaw I think.

Trey Lance, Kinlaw, Trwy Sermon are some examples. They like to think they are getting these gems in later rounds but the picks in the premium rounds have been very suspect!
injuries snubbed those and other promising picks
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know what we're doing differently, but it shouldn't be the fans responsibility to figure it out. Just attributing it all to bad luck when it's been happening for more than a decade is letting the team off the hook. I'm sure the problem is complex, but they're the only ones with the resources and access required to figure it out. We know they haven't invested enough into resolving the problem, because the problem still persists and we've seen zero improvements.

We haven't even changed our head S&C coach since 2019. In such a results based business, what other coach could have such poor results for so many years and keep their job?

You act like we're the only team that deals with injuries…and that's simply not the truth.

you're forming some sort of hypothesis based off emotions.

invest in what? How about the players invest in their own health in recovery on top of what SF provides? Why is Derrick Henry who plays a position you usually fall off a cliff at 30 still killing it? Why is he never getting hurt when RBs around the league do every week? The guy takes care of his body, it's his investment to continue to play/make money.

these players need to be better on their own as well….Collins shows up out of shape and fat what does he think is gonna happen? I'll bet money he showed up at like 350lbs. Shocking his ligament didn't hold up

you can invest in every ice bath, PT, cryo freeze chamber, red light bed…s**t isn't gonna matter if the player doesn't hold himself accountable to be ready for f**king go.

There's no electrical substation at MetLife, yet those f**kers are hurt more than anyone.

I mean, going off of AGL (Adjusted Games Lost), we've had roughly 35% more games lost by starters than the league average over the last 12 years, almost 100 more games than the 2nd place team, and close to double the amount of games as the Rams. That seems pretty significant.

Article detailing AGL from 2021:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/6/9/22525254/49ers-terrible-injury-luck-continues-2020-nfl-offseason

AGL from 2012-2021 (#2 behind Washington during that time and we've since surpassed them):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1daD7BaSXtAtbk-wdUNunK_JRHcw7WCU_DaFKyi9OsRs/edit?usp=drivesdk

AGL from 2022 & 2023 (our only healthy year):

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/texans-lead-2023-agl-numbers-with-ol-injury-record

AGL from 2024 (disaster):

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/2024-agl-49ers-get-smacked-down-by-injuries

AGL from 2025 (top 5 again):

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/adjusted-games-lost-2025-no-team-suffered-like-the-cardinals

Is AGL the only way to measure injuries? No, obviously not, but it's a well thought out measurement and as good as any. It's unlikely we're not near the top using any method. Pretending that every team has the same level of injuries or that this problem hasn't been around for over a decade just doesn't make sense to me.

Not off to a great start for the 2026 season. This sucks, I'm so tired of it.
Can't draft
cant build a team

goes in dry on the avengers
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