John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
One thing I would love to see is the names behind the so called golden helmets (or whatever they call them). Supposedly Kyle John and the scouts assigned 30 of them.

Golden helmets are character awards given out to guys that check every box on a list they have. They use that plus the talent evaluation plus other criteria in setting up there board. Lynch said they had 16 guys with golden helmets in this draft. Guys they've acknowledged in the past as Golden Helmet guys are Solomon Thomas, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Colton McKivitz, Trey Lance, Talanoa Hufanga, Ji'Ayir Brown, Brayden Willis, and now Stribling.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Because it's being talked about on a National level; not just Grant. All over Twitter with that Sharp guy, media on the networks etc etc. You think the Yorks likes this kind of attention? Especially when the data shows that NONE of these crazy reach guys (particularly RBs) have worked out?

We'll see. I mean if nothing changes and our early round busts continue every year; I'm pretty sure more than Grant will start questioning things.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
One thing I would love to see is the names behind the so called golden helmets (or whatever they call them). Supposedly Kyle John and the scouts assigned 30 of them.

Golden helmets are character awards given out to guys that check every box on a list they have. They use that plus the talent evaluation plus other criteria in setting up there board. Lynch said they had 16 guys with golden helmets in this draft. Guys they've acknowledged in the past as Golden Helmet guys are Solomon Thomas, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Colton McKivitz, Trey Lance, Talanoa Hufanga, Ji'Ayir Brown, Brayden Willis, and now Stribling.

Good info.

i didn't realize it was strictly character. Clearly Aiyuk, Foster, and Sermon were not golden helmet types. But from the names provided they must really value them more than other measurables. .

Originally posted by q0c0p:
The overreaction to the draft is comical. People need to calm their titties down. No one knows how these guys are gonna turn out. I think kyle and john have earned our grace. We are always in superbowl contention. LET THEM COOK. Everyone needs to R.E.L.A.X. People say reach this reach that. Based on what? Like what john said it wasnt reaches in their boards. Every team has different boards that differ greatly from the so called "consensus"

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
The overreaction to the draft is comical. People need to calm their titties down. No one knows how these guys are gonna turn out. I think kyle and john have earned our grace. We are always in superbowl contention. LET THEM COOK. Everyone needs to R.E.L.A.X. People say reach this reach that. Based on what? Like what john said it wasnt reaches in their boards. Every team has different boards that differ greatly from the so called "consensus"

In regards to winning games when not devastated by key injuries? Yes.

In regards to drafting RBs in the 3rd round lol? 😬

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Because it's being talked about on a National level; not just Grant. All over Twitter with that Sharp guy, media on the networks etc etc. You think the Yorks likes this kind of attention? Especially when the data shows that NONE of these crazy reach guys (particularly RBs) have worked out?

We'll see. I mean if nothing changes and our early round busts continue every year; I'm pretty sure more than Grant will start questioning things.

There's a reason Lynch hasn't been extended. The Kyle extension conversations will be very interesting to follow in offseason.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
I've said I'm okay with this draft. But, I'm glad they didn't draft in the 1st round or it would be doomsday. This regime always needs to look to move out of the 1st round.

The picks aren't flashy but will be productive.

The only way to have it been hit out of the park is if they've had drafted a stud Center and Left Guard in that order with the first two picks!

Personally I'd rather they trade down their day one picks every draft season unless there's a "so called" can't miss prospect they want at (for example at pick 32). If every Kyle Shanahan derived team (LA, Seattle, green bay, Saleh, Mike McDaniels etc...) is going to poach your day one draft picks, might as well trade down to day two.

I think it's a lot harder to poach draft picks in day two and day three since everyone is going by their own way by then. They really aren't paying attention to other teams picks at that point.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Yeah; I didn't even say that Lynch in particular would get fired or what have you, I just said that I would expect to see some changes. Whether that is Lynch being fired; different role; Shanny having less say; less coach involvement or influence; whatever it is that they have been doing has not yielded good results on day 1 and 2 of the draft. There's no debating that.

The annual RB pick doesn't even deserve discussion with how bad that has been.

Originally posted by genus49:
In regards to winning games when not devastated by key injuries? Yes.

In regards to drafting RBs in the 3rd round lol? 😬

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Not hard to get rid of him in the least hes irrelevant.

That success is attributed to Kyles coaching and striking gold with Purdy he saved them from the Lance fiasco.

Yup, Purdy saved *both* their azzez. That's why they paid Purdy the big bucks. Its called job security. ShanaLynch isn't going anywhere as long as they keep Purdy alive and we'll. I almost guarantee it.

This draft doesn't indicate that they value keeping him alive and well.

Heh, maybe thats why they kept Mac Jones.

But seriously, drafting Kaelon's ability to protect Brock goes a long way to keeping Brock alive. It helps too when Brock can hand it off to an RB and let the RB's take a beating instead of the QB.

Factor in Foerster's ability to make lemon OLinemen into great Lemonade (UDFA Brendel, Colton Mckivitz), and you have carver and Enrique being potential starters in the near future. If you look just solely at Enrique's athleticism stats - he compares favorably to Trent Williams. We'll see what he turns into, but Foerster has done some OLine miracles in the past.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
One thing I would love to see is the names behind the so called golden helmets (or whatever they call them). Supposedly Kyle John and the scouts assigned 30 of them.

Golden helmets are character awards given out to guys that check every box on a list they have. They use that plus the talent evaluation plus other criteria in setting up there board. Lynch said they had 16 guys with golden helmets in this draft. Guys they've acknowledged in the past as Golden Helmet guys are Solomon Thomas, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Colton McKivitz, Trey Lance, Talanoa Hufanga, Ji'Ayir Brown, Brayden Willis, and now Stribling.

Originally posted by q0c0p:
The overreaction to the draft is comical. People need to calm their titties down. No one knows how these guys are gonna turn out. I think kyle and john have earned our grace. We are always in superbowl contention. LET THEM COOK. Everyone needs to R.E.L.A.X. People say reach this reach that. Based on what? Like what john said it wasnt reaches in their boards. Every team has different boards that differ greatly from the so called "consensus"

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Because it's being talked about on a National level; not just Grant. All over Twitter with that Sharp guy, media on the networks etc etc. You think the Yorks likes this kind of attention? Especially when the data shows that NONE of these crazy reach guys (particularly RBs) have worked out?

We'll see. I mean if nothing changes and our early round busts continue every year; I'm pretty sure more than Grant will start questioning things.