John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Four 4th round picks tomorrow and a late 5th, and the Height pick was okay.

But sorry, I simply can't get over the DeZaun pick. One of the worst picks ever and I'm not being overdramatic. You had 21 hours to think about it and listen to trade offers and you pick a guy three rounds early at #33. That's a legit fireable offense for the horrible asset management alone.

The trade downs are the only reason this draft isn't an F.

it must be nice to be able to determine a draft pick's entire career trajectory a few hours after he's been selected. Can you do that with stocks as well? I could use a good investment strategy.

It doesn't matter if he ends up being the best WR of this draft class. We had pick #33 along with plenty of trade offers and we selected him when he very very very easily would've been available at #90.

It's about the asset management.

If he turns out to be the best WR in the class, then I would call that pretty good asset management. A ten-year starter with the 33rd pick in the.draft? There isn't a team in the league who wouldn't make that choice every time. Does that mean I think he'll accomplish that? Not at all. Time will tell I guess. But I will say again that I absolutely amazed by your ability to not only accurately determine, what a player's career will end up looking like on the day he's drafted, but can also predict exactly where they would have been available to be taken later on. How on earth do you do it?

I'm not thrilled with the Niner draft so far but I really don't know that much about the players they picked. What I do know is they entered a weak draft with only 6 picks. Wit the trades they've turned it into 8 picks. I guess Lynch feels like there's a better chance of finding a diamond in the rough with more choices. We'll see.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. But I think 2025 was a good draft. It got us into the playoffs a year early. This could be a good draft still. We won't know until the season starts to see what this draft *really* brings to the table. Day three is about to begin and this is the bulk of where the 49er picks are.

I think the current three draft picks have potential. I think it's premature to say they are all busts from the gitgo.

I'll preface by saying that I like the 2025 class as well, but it's still a wait and see for me. Al Collins and CJ West actually tied for the lowest graded defensive lineman in the NFL, the same with Marques Sigle. Lowest graded safety out of all safeties. Nick Martin is a question mark. Jordan James is a question mark, and might be buried now. Same with Jordan Watkins. Stout looks like a solid pick.

I agree though, that we don't know what's what until we see the final product

Day three picks have historically been known to save ShanaLynch's bacon in the past. We have a ton of Day 3 picks coming up!

I'm OK if Lynch leaves, is fired, wanders off into the desert, pursues a career in acting, etc, etc.

Originally posted by Darkness49ers:
I honestly think Lynch should be fired tomorrow.
Did not address a single need. What in the actual bleep was his plan here?

False. We needed more speed at receiver. The player was overdrafted, but it's still a need. Everyone was talking about receiver prospects at 27 overall. And you can't possibly think we are set with our pass rush. Even if Bryce Huff were still on the team, we were probably taking an edge rusher, But once he retired, that was a done deal. Edge rusher was also in discussion for pick 27. The problem is the trash RB pick. Had we come away with Dunker or Pregnon with our other 3rd, this is a completely different Ninertalk today. We need a starter at LG and FS and we are making depth RB picks. Insanity.

After sleeping on it, my draft grades so far:

DeZuan: A. This dude is going to be a stud. Forget the mocks, he has the attitude, skills, and physicality to be a dominant player. High floor, high ceiling. Replaces Juan. There's not doubt Rams were high on him as he has the size and intangibles of Puka Nacua, but with 4.36 straight line speed. Like I said, high ceiling.

Romello: B+. Fills a position of need. High character speed rusher. Productive in college with good athleticism. Should come in and fill the role of the retired Huff. Solid pick in an underwhelming draft.

Kaelon: C-. This was an F+ when I went to bed last night, but after sleeping on it and reading a bit about him, I'm trending towards seeing how he seems like the 3rd round RB that will actually contribute as a rookie. He should be a core ST player at worst, ideal for returning kicks, ideal for coverage units. Strong, fast, explosive. That's his floor, imo, which is a solid contributor. I think, due to his blocking skills, he will be trusted to come in and spell CMC for tough yardage situations, and blocking situations, reducing the amount of hits on CMC. It's just the value. Ugh. Seems like they could have waited for a guy that was such a specific need. All that said, I actually feel better about him as a 3rd round RB, than others in the past. He stands a good chance in breaking the streak by actually being useful, albeit not star material. I do love the way he hits the hole with conviction, had an impressive senior bowl, and benched a s**t ton. Dude will be a net positive for this team.

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
How would you grade Lynch's draft classes?

2017: C getting Kittle in the 5th and DJ Jones in the 6th saved it from being an F
2018: C, getting Warner in the 3rd saves it from being an F.
2019: A: Bosa, Samuel, Greenlaw
2020. B-: Aiyuk and Jennings
2021. F They got Lenoir and Hufunga, but everything else was abysmal and they spend 3 picks on Lance
2022: C-: Once again, saved by a late round selection of Brock Purdy, but the rest of the class is trash.
2023: F: stinking pile of s**t
2024: C+ 4 starters, which is kind of impressive but they are all average + Bethune.
2025: C- : too early to grade, but looking like a C- so far.

Keeping in mind that a good draft is 2 or 3 players-

2017: B. Kittle obviously and DJ Jones as you said. Trent Taylor was good until the injury. Witherspoon carved out a career for himself.
2018: B-. McGlinchey and Warner were the hits. Richie James was a decent pick for a 7th rounder.
2019: A. No argument needed here
2020: B. Aiyuk, Jennings, and McKivitz. Fact is McKivitz is at worst, an average starting right tackle.
2021 C They had Mitchell who was really good initially. Lenoir and Huff. Aaron Banks was a decent starter. Even Jaylon Moore was a decent swing tackle.
2022: D. We filled the most important position, but the rest of the draft was absolute doo doo.
2023: F. This was like the sequel to the 2022 draft- WITHOUT a Brock Purdy. If anyone wants to know how Seattle and the Rams got ahead of us, look no further than the 2022 and 2023 drafts.

Hard to judge the last two classes, but so far they are easily an improvement over 2022-2023.

This team just cannot, or will not, spend a high pick on an offensive lineman. They just will not do it.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
This team just cannot, or will not, spend a high pick on an offensive lineman. They just will not do it.

4th round is not even a high pick

The common pattern in the ShannyLynch era is suburb late round drafting and terrible in the early rounds. Makes me wonder if they change up their strategy for later rounds. Do scouts have more say in the latter rounds?

Originally posted by billbird2111:
This team just cannot, or will not, spend a high pick on an offensive lineman. They just will not do it.

Except they have done it on multiple occasions, assuming we are talking day 1 or day 2 picks.

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
The common pattern in the ShannyLynch era is suburb late round drafting and terrible in the early rounds. Makes me wonder if they change up their strategy for later rounds. Do scouts have more say in the latter rounds?

We have never gotten a clear answer on that to my knowledge. Not sure if Lynch or KS is the guy making the picks

Originally posted by billbird2111:
This team just cannot, or will not, spend a high pick on an offensive lineman. They just will not do it.

McGlinchey, Banks, Garnett..only high round picks in the last 10 years...no longer here.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
I'm OK if Lynch leaves, is fired, wanders off into the desert, pursues a career in acting, etc, etc.

Yea, I don't think this would hurt us one bit.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
This team just cannot, or will not, spend a high pick on an offensive lineman. They just will not do it.

Except they have done it on multiple occasions, assuming we are talking day 1 or day 2 picks.

A tackle? WHO? Multiple occasions? Using a first or second round pick on an offensive tackle? Please inform me of these "multiple occasions." I'm aware of just one. Only one. In damn near one decade.