Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
You think wasting 3 1st rounds on Lance would be better than getting Garrett cause of the contract? We got nothing out of Lance. With Garrett we would have the greatest pass rusher to ever put pads on for 3 1sts.
Nope, I never said that, but then you seem to struggle with basic comprehension at times. Nice try though.
We wasted 3 picks on Lance, he gave us almost nothing. Agreed, trading another 3 picks for Garrett would give us way more production ( provided he isn't injured ), but the additional cost of that would be a massive contract whereas we didn't have that extra burden with Lance. That massive contract would dramatically beef up out pass rush, that massive contract would also cause big issues to our Cap in the near future, resulting in very little depth and setting us up for some very bad years until we dug out and then focus on getting cheaper and younger.
Would it be exciting to get Garrett...ABSOLUITLY, I'm not saying it wouldn't. But to me that move means we are all in for the SB this year...if we won it then it might be worth it even if we have a few horrible years afterwards. But if we don't win it....we're screwed. Continuing to add old expensive vets is not the way to go imho. I guess I'm just not seeing this team as ready for a move like this yet. I mean, our O-Line won't play better because we have a better pass rush. Free agency addressed some issues but mostly just for the short term. I want young talented draft picks to build up to a contender......trading away 3 first round picks isn't going to do that.
Cool so you want to be a disrespectful a-hole you can discuss this with someone else.
If you can't take it, then don't dish it out bud. Look, I really like the player, but I don't like the thought of giving up that many draft picks and taking on that salary. For the right team it could be a fantastic fit....I just don't think the 49ers should do it at this point.....I really want the team to get younger, that's all. How much $ should we throw at our D-Line?
We both want to see our team win another SB....we just have different ideas on the best way to do that. 
As I said it before, I don't think trading for Garrett to be a real possibilty,... Browns are not going to trade him right now,... but if they are willing to trade him it would be a trully stupid thing not to try to get him,... and specially for the niners,... he's a generational talent and would make the team automatically the standout fav to reach the SB for the next 3 seasons, no doubt,... you don't let such an oportunity to pass right before your nose,... let alone just for the clumsy argument of getting younger (and what I'm saying here, to be clear, is that you don't pass on Garrett because you want to be younger which would be the clumsy argument,.... not that getting younger couldn't be positive or even something worth to be pursued as the niners tried to do last offseason),...youth doesn't win SBs,.... you've got to be better and that's exactly what signing Garrett would do,.... 3 first round picks don't guarantee anything,... Garrett does
"For the right team it could be a fantastic fit....I just don't think the 49ers should do it at this point...."
there's no team in the NFL where Garrett would fit better,... and right now would be the best moment
there's no team in the NFL with such a number of sure future Hall of Famers:
- Trent Williams
- CMC
- George Kittle
- Mike Evans
- Nick Bosa
- Fred Warner
- Jake Brendel (no, just kidding)
if you add Garrett to this core group you have the foundation of a team both offensive and defensively which would be completely impossible to repeat,... no matter how many first round picks any team could gather
and the better time would be right now,.... this core group has still a couple of seasons of playing at a very high level,... possibly 3,... not all the players at their peak but at a very high level in a whole
in 4 years from now this core group will be gone,... possibly Bosa and Warner will still have some seasons left but as a whole this core group will be gone,...
"that massive contract would also cause big issues to our Cap in the near future, resulting in very little depth and setting us up for some very bad years until we dug out"
not necesarily,.... there's the rest of the picks,... you can buid depth with the rest of the picks,... what you can not build again, not even with those 3 firsts, is a core group like the one the niners have currently,.... and, besides, this FO has proven that they can find very good players with the later rounds' picks
"But to me that move means we are
all in for the SB this year...if we won it then it might be worth it even if we have a few horrible years afterwards. But if we don't win it....we're screwed."
not only for this year,... we would have at least 2 years and I really think that even 3,.... and if they are not able to win a SB in those 3 years with Williams, CMC, Kittle, Evans, Bosa, Warner and Garrett then yeah, we're screwed (possibly time to think in changing the whole FO, HC included, and I'm a big fan of both Lynch and Shanahan),.... and they wouldn't win it keeping the 3 first round picks anyway
"Continuing to add old expensive vets is not the way to go imho."
I wouldn't use "old expensive vet" to define Myles Garrett,.... I think something like "generational talent", "one of the bests if not the best pass rusher in the history of the NFL", "an unstoppable force" or stuff sort of like that would be more appropriate
and, yeah, even with Garrett there stilll would be holes in this team,... specially , in my view, FS and in the OL,... but these could be filled with the later picks
and,yeah, that last game against Seattle was a disaster,... specially the OL,... but it was a team struggling with injuries the whole season against a well rested and completely healthy team,... and still that same OL was a top10 unit according to all the stats,... and there are some good elements in it,... Williams, McKivitz (a top10 tackle), Puni (didn't fully recovered from that injured knee)
[ Edited by replikante on Mar 28, 2026 at 1:30 PM ]