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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
lol you complain about Lynch and want the dude who went with JJ McCarthy over Darnold?


Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
You really cant make this stuff up. They brought back a guy that drafts worse then they do. It's high comedy

I haven't exactly dug into the Vikings insider stuff so feel free to correct me...but did anyone confirm who actually called the shots on those decisions?

The Vikings drafts haven't been terrible. Really the QB situation was the worst thing they did. They added good WRs and solid OLmen...something we need right now. Getting a respected football mind in the building for extra thoughts isn't a bad thing.

The whole keeping Darnold thing was nightmare fuel for any GM imo. You still have people arguing 49ers should've kept Darnold for crying out loud. If anything I think their bigger mistake was letting Daniel Jones leave as well or not bringing in a guy like Mac Jones and really push McCarthy. Then again maybe they felt Carson Wentz gave them that veteran QB.

I think looking at draft history of any GM you're likely to find rough patches. His just look worse because of the QB situation but we also don't know how those decisions played out. I doubt the owner was pushing for their young QB to sit on the bench for another season. We saw it first hand with Trey Lance. The majority of us wanted him to start that 2nd season no matter what.
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
And this is why you get mocked because nobody can take posts like these seriously. You're like some some kind of wannabe Skip Bayless. But at least he gets paid. You make a 🤡 out of yourself for free. But keep trying to be edgy, you look really cool bro.

Coming from you or so called fans like you who think Shanahan is a better coach than Bill Walsh?

Your criticism means nothing to me.

The true definition of a 🤡 are fans like you who think these guys can do no wrong. Then when they are gone off the team, THEN you can criticize them and praise whoever takes over. Rinse and repeat.

I've seen it for 30 years with fans like you.

Ok...here's the ask. I'm going to put it in bold so you don't miss it.

Show me just 1 poster who said Shanahan is a better coach than Bill Walsh. Just 1. If you can't find me a single fan doing that then you get a timeout until the draft?

Otherwise you get in here and apologize for making this nonsense up. If you have to constantly stoop to these made up takes then maybe your point is without merit.

Fans who don't agree with your constant negative whining aren't automatically "team can do no wrong" Some of us just don't want to drown in negativity while following this sport. It doesn't mean we won't call out bad decisions or bad actions by the coaches/team/etc.
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.

Some fans apparently want the coaches/GMs to spill their guts about their biggest needs heading into the draft.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
lol you complain about Lynch and want the dude who went with JJ McCarthy over Darnold?


Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
You really cant make this stuff up. They brought back a guy that drafts worse then they do. It's high comedy

I haven't exactly dug into the Vikings insider stuff so feel free to correct me...but did anyone confirm who actually called the shots on those decisions?

The Vikings drafts haven't been terrible. Really the QB situation was the worst thing they did. They added good WRs and solid OLmen...something we need right now. Getting a respected football mind in the building for extra thoughts isn't a bad thing.

The whole keeping Darnold thing was nightmare fuel for any GM imo. You still have people arguing 49ers should've kept Darnold for crying out loud. If anything I think their bigger mistake was letting Daniel Jones leave as well or not bringing in a guy like Mac Jones and really push McCarthy. Then again maybe they felt Carson Wentz gave them that veteran QB.

I think looking at draft history of any GM you're likely to find rough patches. His just look worse because of the QB situation but we also don't know how those decisions played out. I doubt the owner was pushing for their young QB to sit on the bench for another season. We saw it first hand with Trey Lance. The majority of us wanted him to start that 2nd season no matter what.

People are magically thinking Adofo-Mensah is gonna be running the draft lol. He's gonna go back to his old job which was based around analytics. Let's get a grip folks
Drafts weren't very good, but he did have good FA signings and trades . Maybe they want to go more of this route . They did amass 45 wins in 4 years under him , so not disaster by any means
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-vikings-nfl-draft-gm-kwesi-adofo-mensah-rick-spielman/601328006
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.

Some fans apparently want the coaches/GMs to spill their guts about their biggest needs heading into the draft.

Ha. For real. This idea that John and Kyle are obligated to divulge everything is ridiculous.

Some fans and media members are incredibly entitled and have cartoonishly stupid ideas about how things actually work.

Personally, I don't mind if John and Kyle keep things close to the vest because that is exactly what they should be doing.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.

Some fans apparently want the coaches/GMs to spill their guts about their biggest needs heading into the draft.

LOL Exactly. Lynch is a master BS artist which is part of his job. I do not care what him or Kyle say, I care what they actually do. If they ignore o-line again then let the forums burn
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.

Some fans apparently want the coaches/GMs to spill their guts about their biggest needs heading into the draft.

Ha. For real. This idea that John and Kyle are obligated to divulge everything is ridiculous.

Some fans and media members are incredibly entitled and have cartoonishly stupid ideas about how things actually work.

Personally, I don't mind if John and Kyle keep things close to the vest because that is exactly what they should be doing.

The fans know what the needs are and Lynch and Kyle don't know who will be there when they draft. Their list is probably similar to most everyone else.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Gemini10:

Yeah they're not serious about winning Super Bowls if they're happy about this OL.

What massive thing are they suppose to do? Once they get the Trent issue situated they have two damn good OTs, a healthy Puni is a good young RG, who they moving in place of Brendel? He wasn't amazing, he was also far from the worst center in the league. They need to upgrade LG and it sounds like he said it will have or be addressed.

Some fans apparently want the coaches/GMs to spill their guts about their biggest needs heading into the draft.

Ha. For real. This idea that John and Kyle are obligated to divulge everything is ridiculous.

Some fans and media members are incredibly entitled and have cartoonishly stupid ideas about how things actually work.

Personally, I don't mind if John and Kyle keep things close to the vest because that is exactly what they should be doing.

The fans know what the needs are and Lynch and Kyle don't know who will be there when they draft. Their list is probably similar to most everyone else.

This is true and tbh it will be hard for them to mess this draft up (on paper at least) as they could simply take bpa every round and the odds are it will improve the team (If they actually play them)
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
This is true and tbh it will be hard for them to mess this draft up (on paper at least) as they could simply take bpa every round and the odds are it will improve the team (If they actually play them)

This is where the argument lies. A LOT of people never think who they take is the BPA every round; personally I think they reach a lot for need.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
This is true and tbh it will be hard for them to mess this draft up (on paper at least) as they could simply take bpa every round and the odds are it will improve the team (If they actually play them)

This is where the argument lies. A LOT of people never think who they take is the BPA every round; personally I think they reach a lot for need.

Since there is no actual definiton of BPA it's always going to be a debate. It's like trying to say who makes the best pizza. Lot's of differing opinions.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
This is true and tbh it will be hard for them to mess this draft up (on paper at least) as they could simply take bpa every round and the odds are it will improve the team (If they actually play them)

This is where the argument lies. A LOT of people never think who they take is the BPA every round; personally I think they reach a lot for need.

Since there is no actual definiton of BPA it's always going to be a debate. It's like trying to say who makes the best pizza. Lot's of differing opinions.

Yup this is true
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
This is true and tbh it will be hard for them to mess this draft up (on paper at least) as they could simply take bpa every round and the odds are it will improve the team (If they actually play them)

This is where the argument lies. A LOT of people never think who they take is the BPA every round; personally I think they reach a lot for need.

Since there is no actual definiton of BPA it's always going to be a debate. It's like trying to say who makes the best pizza. Lot's of differing opinions.

That's true. I think in general we haven't always drafted BPA under Kyle/John(I think they owned up to that to a degree)

I don't think we drafted BPA last year with how much emphasis we put into rebuilding the DL but hopefully it works out regardless. I do think it fell close enough for us where we came close enough.

And that's the other thing with BPA. You have your grades, you have your board. But if you have a glaring need at LG and at your pick the best grade available is at say CB with 9.3 grade(not sure what scale 49ers use) but a LG is also available with a 9.1 grade. Maybe you go with need if the grade is close enough.

What you don't want to see is a team passing on a 9.3 guy for a guy who is a 8.5 at a need position. It rarely works out how you want IMO.

The good/bad news is at least right now you can throw a dartboard at the depth chart and hit a need position. QB is arguably the only position where we don't need badly and odds are that wouldn't be BPA anyways in this class.

Hopefully we sign some quality guys in free agency where our big needs aren't as critical and going BPA may not hit as many needs but prevents us from having a glaring need in the draft so we can stick to the board and grab the best guys available and let it all sort out later.
To me Lynch really ID what the major concern is yesterday. Yes, he is working on Williams, but the real concern is WR. The current batch of WR are not what they need. Pearsall's injury record is such that IF he can stay healthy, he may be a solid to very good number 2. However, they need a WR and I expect that they will attempt to address that via FA or a trade. The WR they have drafted just haven't worked out and as such, I am not sure if they are going to go that way in the draft. IF Williams restructures, the Niners can bring in a WR via trade or FA and then use the draft to build up the DL and OL which is the direction I hope they go. We'll see what they do. The issue with Williams is they have punted the OL down the road too many times and don't have a replacement for him. It's time. In the end they'll do what they do and what they feel is best and then we all can debate it here of course. Let's see what the next 10 weeks brings.
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