John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
You're all overcomplicating this. The problem isn't the quality of the picks we have made, we have been average to above average in terms of finding starters.

Maybe but this has been one of the premier organizations so the success bar has to be set high. Yes, its hard but can't settle or this turns to the Cardinals, Raiders, Dolphins etc.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Maybe but this has been one of the premier organizations so the success bar has to be set high. Yes, its hard but can't settle or this turns to the Cardinals, Raiders, Dolphins etc.

the point is we are drafting way better than them despite losing 2 all pros for almost all season George Kittle, Purdy for 8 games etc we were 1 game away from the number 1 seed

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Also you're all going to hate me for saying this but…I'm not against trading Bosa this offseason for a couple high picks in this and the next draft. His best football is behind him and his value is never going to be higher than what it is right now. Seattle managed to have a dominant pass rush without locking up hella money and dependence in one defensive end. He's no sacred cow in my book.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

Plus, trading immediately after a serious injury is probably not ideal. I have no reason to be pessimistic about his recovery, but other teams might be hesitant to go all in on a blue chipper who might be damaged goods.

If your job is draft, free agency, cap management and dead cap, internal extensions, trades he's not very good at it. What of those can you say he's not catastrophically bad at? It's literally his job as a GM. Why is he the GM on a continual basis if he's so bad at those? Makes no sense to not move on from him. We are unfortunately stuck with Shany. At least get rid of Lynch.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If your job is draft, free agency, cap management and dead cap, internal extensions, trades he's not very good at it. What of those can you say he's not catastrophically bad at? It's literally his job as a GM. Why is he the GM on a continual basis if he's so bad at those? Makes no sense to not move on from him. We are unfortunately stuck with Shany. At least get rid of Lynch.

I don't think it's that simple. From past interviews this crew is tight, and they collaborate on the darft and FA etc. I could not tell you what the league standard is, but I imagine this is normal.

I think everyone agrees their personal decisions have been the weakness overall vs coaching. These are two very intelligent people (Kyle and John) I would imagine they can be honest to themselves and each other and try a different approach. Simply put they need to draft BPA and start hitting on these picks. Way too many misses and meh's.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Also you're all going to hate me for saying this but…I'm not against trading Bosa this offseason for a couple high picks in this and the next draft. His best football is behind him and his value is never going to be higher than what it is right now. Seattle managed to have a dominant pass rush without locking up hella money and dependence in one defensive end. He's no sacred cow in my book.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

Plus, trading immediately after a serious injury is probably not ideal. I have no reason to be pessimistic about his recovery, but other teams might be hesitant to go all in on a blue chipper who might be damaged goods.

His value right now is an unknown. People will overpay for an unknown if you can sell them on it. IF he comes back worse because of injury then you've lost value. We also gain by dumping his impact on our salary cap.

Originally posted by ninerball:
A big part of the problem is that the coaches don't trust younger players. It seemingly takes players longer (than other teams) to see meaningful action. Ad by the time they start contributing, they are ready for their next contract. That leads to worse salary cap outcomes.

They don't trust them because they usually draft mediocre talent (also ShanaLynch's fault).

If only Jed could have Shnanny / Glynch sit this one out (at least on defense), let Morris, Ronald Blair, KJ Wright, Bosa and Warner get with scouts to prepare for the draft ASAP... just don't let those two experts draft anyone on defense (especially not Glynch)

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

It's a popular approach in the NFL, getting rid of the entire roster and starting again. The immediate success of expansion franchises shows you what a sensible approach it is.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

im confused werent we jsut literally 1 win away from the #1 seed without Bosa and Warner not to mention a flurry of other injuries?

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

im confused werent we jsut literally 1 win away from the #1 seed without Bosa and Warner not to mention a flurry of other injuries?

49ers literally wiped away $100 mil in dead cap space. Disregarded undrafted rookie free agents and spent very little on free agents and went to the divisional round of the playoffs. But that's loser talk if we're happy about that according to some in here.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

im confused werent we jsut literally 1 win away from the #1 seed without Bosa and Warner not to mention a flurry of other injuries?

Don't feed the trolls.

Man I just suggested trading Bosa as a strategic move to get max value but some of y'all are going to crazy talk territory saying trade everyone lol. I suggest trading Bosa because looking at what the Seahawks and Rams are doing with their defensive fronts and utilizing a committee of very good pass rushers instead of putting all their pass rushing eggs in one basket, we might be better off going in that direction as well. And there has to be teams out there that are willing to give up very nice compensation for Bosa before he declines. I'm not saying he could fetch a first…but maybe? Imagine what having multiple firsts or seconds in this and/or next year's drafts could do for us.

That said, hell no to trading any of our other linchpins because they're worth far more to our team than what they can yield in the trade market.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Nick Bosa for a haul if I believed this front office could do something with the return, but there's no reason to trust this front office to trade away the only pass rusher they've got and then successfully replace him. John Lynch's drafting record doesn't inspire any confidence. Nick Bosa is the only pass rusher they've ever hit on, and even that one was gift-wrapped. Anyone could've made that pick.

I'd trade everyone. CMC, TW, Bosa

Unless we spend some money in free agency. We have way too many needs to fill in the draft and this roster is severely lacking.

If we are going to do a rebuild then do it proper. Dont keep a few overpaid injury prone older players. Gut the whole roster

It's a popular approach in the NFL, getting rid of the entire roster and starting again. The immediate success of expansion franchises shows you what a sensible approach it is.

Lol this