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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Could you put the list of every other team since 2017 so we have some context? Otherwise this is pointless.

I don't care about any other team. I care about this team.

Every team misses on some draft picks, trades, FA signings etc. so how is this list helpful if there's no way to know if that's worse or better than other teams?
[ Edited by 49ersRing on Nov 9, 2025 at 7:02 PM ]
Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
The thing that bothers me the most about Lynch is that he is so predictable in the first round of drafts. We never take BPA. It's always need and he tries to spin it that that player was also the BPA. Lynch said that his goal was to fix the run defense this offseason so he reached for a defensive lineman with zero pass rush skills in Mykel Williams. We passed on Warren, Barron, Starks and several OL. He did it with Kinlaw too.

BPA according to who? I'm sure there were a lot of differing opinions on who the best player was when they picked. The fact is nobody knows who the best players are in the draft. They're just making their pick and hoping it's the right one.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Updated the fail list:

Not signing Tom Brady and rather chose Jimmy G
Not trading for Stafford and rather chose Jimmy G
Traded Deforest Bucker
Let Mike McGlinchey leave
Let Talanoa Hufunga leave
Cut DJ Reed
Cut Leonard Floyd
Cut Maliek Collins
Cut Javon Hargrave
Cut Arik Armstead
Let Woerner leave 3 years 12 mil
Signed Luke Farrell 3 years 20 mil
Solomon Thomas 1.3
Reuben Foster 1.31
CJ Beathard 3.104
Joe Williams 4.121
Dante Pettis 2.44
Jalen Hurd 3.67
Mitch Wishnowski 4.110
Javon Kinlaw 1.14
Trey Lance 1.3
Trey Sermon 3.88
Ambry Thomas 3.102
Drake Jackson 2.61
Tyrion Davis Price 3.93
Danny Gray 3.105
Jake Moody 3.99
Cameron Latu 3.101
Isaac Guerrendo 4.125
Jacob Cowing 4.135
Mykel Williams 1.11??
Nick Martin 3.75

Could you put the list of every other team since 2017 so we have some context? Otherwise this is pointless.

Hell no it's not pointless, trading 3 first rounds picks for a qb is not normal for all teams, that's a Huge swing and miss and most gms would be fired for that move alone, and the list goes on with the 1st round busts, bosa probably only first round pick they hit on, they try to overthink than take best player available is their problem, something Scott mcclueless didn't do to his credit always took bpa
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
BPA according to who? I'm sure there were a lot of differing opinions on who the best player was when they picked. The fact is nobody knows who the best players are in the draft. They're just making their pick and hoping it's the right one.

Not even joking Catch; but the draft nerds on this site (including myself) hit in rounds 1-3 a lot more than this regime. It's all there in the draft thread……..for years. So maybe BPA according to everyone else lol
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Updated the fail list:

Not signing Tom Brady and rather chose Jimmy G
Not trading for Stafford and rather chose Jimmy G
Traded Deforest Bucker
Let Mike McGlinchey leave
Let Talanoa Hufunga leave
Cut DJ Reed
Cut Leonard Floyd
Cut Maliek Collins
Cut Javon Hargrave
Cut Arik Armstead
Let Woerner leave 3 years 12 mil
Signed Luke Farrell 3 years 20 mil
Solomon Thomas 1.3
Reuben Foster 1.31
CJ Beathard 3.104
Joe Williams 4.121
Dante Pettis 2.44
Jalen Hurd 3.67
Mitch Wishnowski 4.110
Javon Kinlaw 1.14
Trey Lance 1.3
Trey Sermon 3.88
Ambry Thomas 3.102
Drake Jackson 2.61
Tyrion Davis Price 3.93
Danny Gray 3.105
Jake Moody 3.99
Cameron Latu 3.101
Isaac Guerrendo 4.125
Jacob Cowing 4.135
Mykel Williams 1.11??
Nick Martin 3.75

Could you put the list of every other team since 2017 so we have some context? Otherwise this is pointless.

Hell no it's not pointless, trading 3 first rounds picks for a qb is not normal for all teams, that's a Huge swing and miss and most gms would be fired for that move alone, and the list goes on with the 1st round busts, bosa probably only first round pick they hit on, they try to overthink than take best player available is their problem, something Scott mcclueless didn't do to his credit always took bpa

HCs and GMs don't get fired for making poor draft picks, they get fired because those poor draft picks usually result in the team losing a lot of games. It's a result based business and the results have mostly been pretty good here.
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Still can't believe we didn't make any trades before the trade deadline 😭

WHO did you honestly wanted that would have helped our HC become LEGIT?

QW would have been nice eh. Maybe a linebacker too, but that's probably me being greedy.

QW would not make HC a legit HC... our team's image is that of our HC... Nice and Soft... can't adjust during games.. can't game plan... and will continue to believe and act that he can make any players look good as long as he's the HC.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Your move

Makes too much sense, which is why we probably won't do it

They might as well use the week for interviews Samuels tomorrow, APR Tuesday...........

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by captveg:
Bunch of delusional angry, burn it all down fans here.

Lynch played it smart by recognizing that the chances of winning the SB this year without Warner and Bosa (plus the other real dozen injured defensive guys) was very low. This wasn't the year to push all in. He made a few modest trades but the real work will be in the offseason. It sucks, but that's the smart objective way to look at it. No team is winning the SB when their top 2 superstar defensive players are out.

Played it smart? Why so he can draft more busts? He needs to step down.

This. It's not about him failing to make a trade. It's about his inability to draft difference-makers.

I am fine with him not making a trades but I also agree that he has been absolute garbage at drafting. Since 2020 the 49ers have drafted only 2 Pro Bowlers (Purdy, Hufanga).
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Your move

Makes too much sense, which is why we probably won't do it

They might as well use the week for interviews Samuels tomorrow, APR Tuesday...........


lol don't expect Lynch to pick up anyone that can help the defense he likes his guys his soft non tackling no covering no interceptions no turnovers guys.
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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Your move

Makes too much sense, which is why we probably won't do it

They might as well use the week for interviews Samuels tomorrow, APR Tuesday...........


Does anyone care why they released him? Maybe there's something there that we fans don't know
Originally posted by Silky:
Does anyone care why they released him? Maybe there's something there that we fans don't know

Maybe he sucks and/or maybe it's numbers game... they've been active with signing and what not, might need the room, they can spare an ER (taking a guess here)
Originally posted by Kolohe:
lol don't expect Lynch to pick up anyone that can help the defense he likes his guys his soft non tackling no covering no interceptions no turnovers guys.

LOL...I still can't believe he keeps missing at drafting a safety when he was a HoF player at that position.

It shows that good players do not make good personnel guys.
  • dj43
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
lol don't expect Lynch to pick up anyone that can help the defense he likes his guys his soft non tackling no covering no interceptions no turnovers guys.

LOL...I still can't believe he keeps missing at drafting a safety when he was a HoF player at that position.

It shows that good players do not make good personnel guys.

Lynch was more of a SS than FS. The play was a bit different in Lynch's day but he was feared for his tackling ability. That may explain why we have not had a ball-hawking FA since Lynch arrived. I know those guys are not easy to find. Perhaps moving a CB to the back would be the answer.
Im done with Lynch. Keep Shanahan but take away all his personnel decisions.

A guy we should be looking at is Jesse Minter the Chargers D coordinator for HC and John McKay (assistant GM, Los Angeles Rams.

I'd be offering Shanahan up in the trade market. See if we can get a couple 2nd's for him and Lynch can go back to the broadcast booth. It's time for a fresh start.
Originally posted by dj43:
That may explain why we have not had a ball-hawking FA since Lynch arrived. I know those guys are not easy to find.

How many true ball hawking safeties even exist in modern day football? I saw a factoid the other day that said since 2018, no NFL safety has reached 7 interceptions in a season; there were 7 safeties with 7 interceptions or more over the decade before. That's crazy. I'd be interested to see the total number of interceptions by safeties in the last ten years, and see if they've declined(I'd bet money on it). Everyone is playing quarters/2-deep, which means offenses aren't really trying to push the ball down the field thus reducing the number of opportunities for interceptions.
[ Edited by Heroism on Nov 9, 2025 at 10:40 PM ]
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