John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NYniner85:
it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Let's be real here:

Even if Kyle won one of those Super Bowls, these same people would still be complaining. They'll move the goal posts to another solar system if they have to. What's why they're bringing up Super Bowls and literally nothing else in the first place. As if a one-game sample size determines if you're a good coach or not (heck not even a one-game sample size—more like a 5 minute sample size lol)

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Probably, that doesn't mean he would make them SB contenders / champions.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

>>Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals.

True, but totally irrelevant. Guys in the locker room are not paid to manage the team, they are paid millions of dollars to play their respective position on the team to the best of their ability. The front office manages the team, and they have a much longer time horizon then the next 8 games of this season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Do you hear yourself?!

2024 season

• Torn Achilles: Johnson tore his right Achilles tendon in Week 2 against the Tennessee Titans and missed the rest of the season.

And, yet this team was after him and so were others. Why, because they thought it would help their team.

The reason he is still in NY is because they did not have to give him up. Why, because he is under an affordable contract all the way through next year.

1 sack huh. Is that more or less what our 11th pick M. Williams has produced this year?

**For anyone else: I am not giving up on Williams just yet but you get the point.

I mean $14M FGTD isn't "affordable" the only reason he's in NJ is because no one was willing to give up a 2nd rd pick…not because he was untouchable.

I wanted Johnson because I think he's a good young talent that would fit the scheme. I think a 2nd is a lot to give up and so did everyone else in the league apparently.

I mean Gross- Matos is at $9.5M and has literally done nothing. $14M might be more than most like but if he posts 10 sacks and good pressures is that worth it? Because this business pays guys upfront and on potential.

I see a 2nd being too steep but do we know that they could have used a couple of other picks. The Jets were in the driver's seat. They asked for a 2nd, they didn't get it, so now they have him for next year where money could lessen at the halfway point and still could ask for a 2nd if he's having a good season two years after tearing up his achilles.

I mean we're talking Johnson but how about other help like Arden Key, etc.?

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Probably, that doesn't mean he would make them SB contenders / champions.

I'd love to see if Bills fans talk like this about McDermott.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Yeah, I was reading on the Seahawks forum, and several of their posters even said how they despise the 49ers but have mad respect for Shanahan because he has his team still fighting and winning games after all of the injuries we have has to our star players. I recall the 49er teams before we got Lynch and Shanahan....it wasn't pretty.

Have they made some mistakes.....yup, for sure, but overall imho they are doing a good job and lots of other teams would sign them if they had the chance.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Probably, that doesn't mean he would make them SB contenders / champions.

I'd love to see if Bills fans talk like this about McDermott.

If I were a Bills fan, I would definitely want McDermott fired.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Probably, that doesn't mean he would make them SB contenders / champions.

I'd love to see if Bills fans talk like this about McDermott.

If I were a Bills fan, I would definitely want McDermott fired.

Respect for consistency at least!

Someone literally tried to argue on here two days ago that the Bills front office deserves more leeway than ours on blowing picks / playoff opportunities because they lucked into a generational QB. The logic was so backwards and twisted into a pretzel that I just couldn't…

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All these posts about what Lynch should have done. Hilarious because none of us knows who he talked to and what was discussed. Ther 49ers have holes to fill in the 2026 draft. They weren't in position to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick like the Cowboys were. I'm sure Lynch talked to many teams prior to the trading dealine but they were either asking too much or there were issues. Physical and maybe financially.

Spot on, all these wannabe GM's think Lynch just sat there and did nothing. I'm sure he was on phone with multiple teams, negotiating. In the end he and his staff determined no player was worth what the other team was asking for. We are 6-3, very winnable games coming up. Ride with what we got and see what happens.

Fair. They- Lynch, Shannahan- need to be better.

11 first round picks, including 2022 and 2023, and the other four- Bosa, Aiyuk, Pearsall, Williams are all hurt. Bosa is hit, Aiyuk is overpaid, Pearsall might be someone, Williams might be a late bloomer.

If you buy 11 homes and hit on only 1 and that one is great but needs constant repairs (Bosa) then what's going on with you.

A football player to a home is not a good comparison. Players being hurt has nothing to do with their draft position, just bad luck. Bosa was a hit, Aiyuk was paid the market rate for WR, you can thank other teams for overpaying which drove up rates. To soon to rate Pearsall and Williams, although I think both will be good.

lol.

*"Hey Sergeant. You've had 11 missions and you've hit on 1 of those. We think!"

I do see potential in Pearsall and Williams.

This is bottom line business. If you're fine being fine then welcome to the Jets, Browns, etc.

The problem with your logic is if every draft pick is a "mission," then the vast majority of the league—including the Chiefs and Eagles who you love and adore so much—are failing at least half their missions.

Also we are not "1 for 11" on first round picks lmao what kind of criteria are you using? That all 11 need to be Aaron Donald? Absurd.

I'm all for criticizing Lynch/Kyle whenever it's warranted but some of you are just absurd. Makes me think you're not really "fans."

Oh boy. Thick!

Here read it slowly. Something is amiss with their philosophy. They tanked picks on a QB, they overpaid for Aiyuk, they fail miserably on the O-line, etc. There are winners and then there are champions. Make sense?

Here's an example: Trent Williams they gave up picks for and how has that turned out. Christian McCaffrey they gave up picks and how has it gone. Now every single trade they give up picks in does not need to be a home run like those two. But, Someone like J. Johnson can help and would help going forward and 1st rounders were not needed.

Guys in locker rooms are not thinking about next year or about picks or hypotheticals. They want someone that they can depend on since they are giving up their bodies to win games. This is very basic do you understand this?

No, something is amiss in Superbowl games. Their draft strategy, FA approach, and trading approach have been fine. Definitely on par or better than the rest of the league.

We wouldn't be having this type of conversation had Jimmy G not turn into a turtle in 2019 and we did not make back breaking mistakes during the 2023 SB. We can argue those mistakes night and day, but some were objectively not Kyle's fault. They were not Lynch's fault (i.e muffed punt, CMC fumble, Greenlaw's injury). I'd be willing to argue had 1 of those errors do not happen, we win the SB.

It's just crazy to me we have fans that want John and Kyle gone. They'll get it together and at least make one more serious playoff run before one of them gets tired of this and quits lol They won't get fired.

Just a couple huge mental errors by some players and this GM/Coach combo would be regarded as one of the best ever. Do I wish they hit on more draft picks? Of course. John did mess up the Buckner situation. There were non-player mistakes, but man this combo got us there multiple times. Sometimes the players just need to come through for them

Originally posted by Silky:
No, something is amiss in Superbowl games. Their draft strategy, FA approach, and trading approach have been fine. Definitely on par or better than the rest of the league.

We wouldn't be having this type of conversation had Jimmy G not turn into a turtle in 2019 and we did not make back breaking mistakes during the 2023 SB. We can argue those mistakes night and day, but some were objectively not Kyle's fault. They were not Lynch's fault (i.e muffed punt, CMC fumble, Greenlaw's injury). I'd be willing to argue had 1 of those errors do not happen, we win the SB.

It's just crazy to me we have fans that want John and Kyle gone. They'll get it together and at least make one more serious playoff run before one of them gets tired of this and quits lol They won't get fired.

Just a couple huge mental errors by some players and this GM/Coach combo would be regarded as one of the best ever. Do I wish they hit on more draft picks? Of course. John did mess up the Buckner situation. There were non-player mistakes, but man this combo got us there multiple times. Sometimes the players just need to come through for them

I mentioned this to NY and I'll mention it again:

The people complaining wouldn't stop even if we had won those two Super Bowls. They would move the goalposts to outer space and still insist that they need to be fired.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All my NY friends would kill to have Shanny and lynch. While no one is perfect we have consistently been talking about as one of the better teams and going to SBs, playoff games snd NFCCs. Currently 6-3 with backups to the backups playing.

anyone being objective would agree overall they've done a hell of a job…folks get all emotional in the moment and there's a couple unserious posters in here.

it's funny how winning ONE more game makes Kyle and Co untouchable and losing ONE game makes them s**t….Like I I said very unserious and emotional based thoughts.

Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

Plenty of fans are dumb.

You really don't think the Jets/Giants would take Kyle in a heartbeat over what they currently have? Why??

Probably, that doesn't mean he would make them SB contenders / champions.

I'd love to see if Bills fans talk like this about McDermott.

If I were a Bills fan, I would definitely want McDermott fired.

Respect for consistency at least!

Someone literally tried to argue on here two days ago that the Bills front office deserves more leeway than ours on blowing picks / playoff opportunities because they lucked into a generational QB. The logic was so backwards and twisted into a pretzel that I just couldn't…

That makes McDermott's already poor job even worse.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Silky:
I'm not going to quote anyone, but i'm seeing a lot of complaining about QW and the Cowboys making the move. Comparing our FA and draft strategy to theirs is silly. QW might turn into a pineapple in that defense. You may never see him the same way again (which is what I think will happen). I told myself i'll be just fine if we do not do anything, and I am.

Making a big splash trade was not necessary this year due to all of the injuries. Trades are meant to enhance your team, not save it. Not performing a blockbuster trade also does not mean the FO is throwing in the towel. That's just a silly take I keep seeing pop-up as well.

I think Lynch has been great and sometimes we fans need to take a step back and look how other teams view us. We're respected and "always there" (according to my Colts fan coworkers. I live in Indy). Lynch is viewed as a top-notch GM and you just don't get rid of that. Same as Kyle. I, for one, will enjoy the rest of this season and hope we are a 2007/2011 NYG Team that gets hot in the playoffs. I actually think they are capable of that once the offense gets fully healthy.

I think people are upset about the QW trade in particular for two reasons:

1. It's the one trade that happened at the deadline where most here think "man… we should've done that ourselves." For all the other trades that happened, the consensus seems to be "meh… not at that price for us" and for all the trades that didn't happen, including Hendrickson, the consensus seems to be "well 30 other teams also believed it wasn't worth the price." QW is the one trade that happened where we feel we could've really benefitted from it (short-term and long-term) and still retained our 2026 1st.

2. It's the Cowboys. They're 3-5-1 and their season effectively ended Monday night, because they are not finishing this season 7-1 or 8-0 with their remaining schedule. Yet they still made this splash move that affects 2026 and 2027 at least. So why not us? We're 6-3 so this trade could've benefitted us this year too unlike Dallas. We had more of a reason to do this trade than they did.

That's ultimately why the focus is on the QW trade. I hear your points just wanted to elaborate on the context.

Maybe we did have the same offer. Maybe the Jets said "throw in something else to tip the needle in your direction" and John said no. They then picked the Cowboys because we have their old coach on our roster and they just look really bad as an organization right now. That probably isn't what happened, but you never f'in know why stuff went down the way it did.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Yeah... I'm not buying that

Plenty of fans around the NFL view Kyle as a choke artist.

But, hey, at least he's the best young offensive mind in football

I couldn't care less if you're "not buying it" it's the truth, but you're way too stubborn and emotional with anything Shanny.