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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I have no clue why the Panthers would be looking to add him. But yeah as far as pass rushers go he and Hendrickson are the best "available" and I'd actually prefer Simmons to Hendrickson. Just doubtful we would make a move for a DT after our last draft.

Collins Simmons and West is a hell of a rotation. Bring back Kaila on the cheap and have Anderson and Valdez battle for last spot.
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I've been hearing more and more about Jeffery Simmons from Carolina.

Not a DE but considered an absolute monster DT who could play some DE.

26 years old, under contract for 2 more years, 6 M next year.

Could be a sneeky pick-up.

He plays for the titans. He's about as close as it gets to Chris jones imo. Total beast who doesn't have amazing edge rushers around him currently

Would I be excited if we traded for him? Of course! It's always exciting making a splash trade for an All-Pro. But I just feel that edge is a much bigger need than DT (unless he makes our entire DL that much better).

Simmons' cost will probably be similar to Hendrickson.

Simmons would make the Niners' entire DL that much better. Plus, wouldn't be a rental - he's under contract through the 2027 season.

Could they get him for a 2nd Rd. pick? If so, would definitely do it.

2nd and Collins
Get Thibodeaux and Njoku
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Get Thibodeaux and Njoku

That's be so sick
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I've been hearing more and more about Jeffery Simmons from Carolina.

Not a DE but considered an absolute monster DT who could play some DE.

26 years old, under contract for 2 more years, 6 M next year.

Could be a sneeky pick-up.

He plays for the titans. He's about as close as it gets to Chris jones imo. Total beast who doesn't have amazing edge rushers around him currently

Would I be excited if we traded for him? Of course! It's always exciting making a splash trade for an All-Pro. But I just feel that edge is a much bigger need than DT (unless he makes our entire DL that much better).

Simmons' cost will probably be similar to Hendrickson.

Simmons would make the Niners' entire DL that much better. Plus, wouldn't be a rental - he's under contract through the 2027 season.

Could they get him for a 2nd Rd. pick? If so, would definitely do it.

2nd and Collins

No way will Lynch give up Collins, especially considering Simmons comes with a $24 million/year price tag. In another year, Collins may be Simmons but on a rookie deal.

The FO just drafted 3 IDL players that all show promise. I can't see any way they send off one of them for a very expensive vet.

If Lynch is going to spend draft capital on a player, Hendrickson is the only guy that will guarantee a return this year. No one else will have his impact.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I've been hearing more and more about Jeffery Simmons from Carolina.

Not a DE but considered an absolute monster DT who could play some DE.

26 years old, under contract for 2 more years, 6 M next year.

Could be a sneeky pick-up.

He plays for the titans. He's about as close as it gets to Chris jones imo. Total beast who doesn't have amazing edge rushers around him currently

Would I be excited if we traded for him? Of course! It's always exciting making a splash trade for an All-Pro. But I just feel that edge is a much bigger need than DT (unless he makes our entire DL that much better).

Simmons' cost will probably be similar to Hendrickson.

Simmons would make the Niners' entire DL that much better. Plus, wouldn't be a rental - he's under contract through the 2027 season.

Could they get him for a 2nd Rd. pick? If so, would definitely do it.

2nd and Collins

No way will Lynch give up Collins, especially considering Simmons comes with a $24 million/year price tag. In another year, Collins may be Simmons but on a rookie deal.

The FO just drafted 3 IDL players that all show promise. I can't see any way they send off one of them for a very expensive vet.

If Lynch is going to spend draft capital on a player, Hendrickson is the only guy that will guarantee a return this year. No one else will have his impact.

Have to disagree with your last paragraph, dj. Simmons would have a similar impact as Hendrickson, IMO, and across this entire DL. Simmons is that good, and the ways he causes disruption both inside and sometimes at DE are exactly what this team needs with all the DL injuries. And, you'd have him under team control through the 2027 season (plus he's only 28).

But hey, the Browns seem to be at the beginning of fire sale mode as they just traded away a good CB in Newsome. Can the Niners pry Garrett off their hands?
Neither Kyle nor Lynch see this team as SB contenders or being one player away, and they repeatedly say this. I see no reason besides wishful thinking that they give up anything of value to acquire a big name lineman. They may take a cheap flier on some guy (like an Omenihu years ago) for cheap but I really dont see any big names being dealt here.
[ Edited by the_dynasty on Oct 8, 2025 at 10:34 PM ]
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Neither Kyle nor Lynch see this team as SB contenders or being one player away, and they repeatedly say this. I see no reason besides wishful thinking that they give up anything of value to acquire a big name lineman. They may take a cheap flier on some guy (like an Omenihu years ago) for cheap but I really dont see any big names being dealt here.

I've heard both Shanahan & Lynch on the radio here in the Bay Area multiple times this season and also have listened to them in press conferences - not once have I heard them say this team isn't or won't be a Super Bowl contender this season. Please provide a link or evidence otherwise if you feel you've heard the contrary.

So far this season and despite having multiple injuries including to some of their core players who are difference makers, the Niners have been very resilient and competitive in going 4-1. As the season progresses, they will continue to get many of these key players back from injury, including hopefully their QB1.

If you look around the entire league and specifically at the top teams, there is not one or two dominant teams that stand far away above all others. Some of the top teams in the NFC besides the Niners, like the Eagles and the Lions, haven't looked all that great. This Sunday will be another big test for the Niners against a good TB team and hopefully they can keep building off of their W over a good Rams team.

You may be right about the Niners not trading for a big-name DL. With Bosa out for the year, I do hope they can trade for a DL who can be effective at getting to the QB and also be a reliable contributor as part of the DL rotation.

The Niners get some/most of their key guys back healthy and I'll like their chances against any NFC team or any team in the league for that matter.
Ive been pounding the table that Bradley Chubb makes the most sense. He has 3 sacks on the year and is 29, so the age where his future contract and situation doesn't match the Dolphins outlook.

The Phins are out of it. They have serious cap issues in 2026 and need to fix it without blowing their 2027.

They're headed for a rebuild/reset and have a crap situation with Tua's contract. The only way out is to shed base salaries and add picks.

Chubb has 38m in non-guaranteed base salary in 2026 and 2027. It would free up all that cap for them over those 2 years.

What we'd owe him this year would only be about 2.4m in base salary and per game roster bonuses.

The Deebo trade is a good comp. 5th rounder.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Get Thibodeaux and Njoku

That's be so sick

Yes please
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Ive been pounding the table that Bradley Chubb makes the most sense. He has 3 sacks on the year and is 29, so the age where his future contract and situation doesn't match the Dolphins outlook.

The Phins are out of it. They have serious cap issues in 2026 and need to fix it without blowing their 2027.

They're headed for a rebuild/reset and have a crap situation with Tua's contract. The only way out is to shed base salaries and add picks.

Chubb has 38m in non-guaranteed base salary in 2026 and 2027. It would free up all that cap for them over those 2 years.

What we'd owe him this year would only be about 2.4m in base salary and per game roster bonuses.

The Deebo trade is a good comp. 5th rounder.

The only reason I'm down for that is it should cost next to nothing. His pressure rate has been pretty bad, I'd much rather have Phillips.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 9, 2025 at 8:41 AM ]
What if we end up with Mad Maxx
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
What if we end up with Mad Maxx

Won't happen unless he's traded from the raiders and then lands here.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Neither Kyle nor Lynch see this team as SB contenders or being one player away, and they repeatedly say this. I see no reason besides wishful thinking that they give up anything of value to acquire a big name lineman. They may take a cheap flier on some guy (like an Omenihu years ago) for cheap but I really dont see any big names being dealt here.

When have they repeatedly said this? I think most coaches and GM's think they are Super Bowl contenders especially if they are a playoff caliber team.

Fun fact: Since 1995 only 4 teams have won the Super Bowl as the Super Bowl preseason favorite.

That's why they preach to just get into the playoffs. Anything can happen from there. The best team doesn't win all the time and it goes back to the old saying "Any given Sunday"
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