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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by replikante:
aaahOriginally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i just don't see myles garrett. brock needs a new deal. i think we get dre done, so we pay 2 off ball linebackers, and we pay nick about the top D player salary, and we pay a lot of guys on O also. also i question if garrett would want to go to SF. he wants to win and be on a contender. that's what's sorely lacking for him. we won 6 games. in his mind, KC would certainly be more of a contender for a ring. in anyones mind really.

naah, Dre's contract should be affordable (everybody is talking something around 6M in a 1 year prove-it contract) and next yeaar the salary cap is going to explode after finishing the COVID corrections. Sign him now and backload the deal.
Besides, if they sign Garrett they can cut both Lloyd and Gross-Matos (both don't deseve the 10M they are due next season).It would save 16M. That's almost what Garrett would earn with his current contract and close to what he possibly would earn with a new one (if he signs a new one).

I think it's possible to have Brock, Bossa, Garrett, Warner, Dre, Ayiuk, Kittle,.. long term with the awaited cap explosion. They will certainly need to cut some more players and sign cheap players in FA. Fortunately there are some very good and very cheap players in this next FA.

what MM was saying on knbr this morning is whatever team trades picks for garrett will probably have to redo his deal right away, and make him the highest paid non qb essentially.

Redo his deal, or extend him?

There's a difference between ripping his contract
up and straight up giving him a 5-year $180M deal starting now, or just keeping his current contract (low cap hit in 2025-2026) and giving him, say, a two-year $72M extension that begins in 2027 (with some of it guaranteed of course).

Both technically make him the "highest paid" non-QB but one is much more manageable than the other.

good question. i am not 100% on the details. he just said it would be unlikely he just plays on the current deal. his expectation is there would be a new deal or extension with major money involved beyond the deal he has now. that makes sense to me. kind of like with russ or watson you trade these guys in and you are pot committed so you give them the banana bucks. now given his age, his desire for a winning team, his likely contract demands, maybe the trade comp isn't gonna be as great for cleveland as it probably should be.
MM has been off lately. Wanting to being part of a already good team and wanting to be paid major money is not thinking this entirely through

The trade request is pretty much saying he would rather have a shot at a SB, not a shot at more money
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This just in: Kittle and Warner want another good player to join the team.
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.
Even if it doesn't involve any firsts?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.
Even if it doesn't involve any firsts?

I'd actually be fine giving up a 1st. It was all those other ones I wanted to keep. If they play this draft right they can set themselves up nicely for the future
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.
Even if it doesn't involve any firsts?

It will absolutely require #11 at a minimum. Every other team can beat our offer otherwise. We could come up with a nice package that doesn't involve 2026-2027 1sts though.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.
Even if it doesn't involve any firsts?

It will absolutely require #11 at a minimum. Every other team can beat our offer otherwise. We could come up with a nice package that doesn't involve 2026-2027 1sts though.
Idk about that, it's not who ever gives up the most.. it's whoever MG wants to go to
Garrett is great but we're not one player away. Just draf BPA at #11 and we'll be fine.

Oh and get 2 DT's
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Garrett is great but we're not one player away. Just draf BPA at #11 and we'll be fine.

Oh and get 2 DT's
If everyone stays healthy, he could be the one player we need

Plus, getting him would not hinder us from adding other players
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.

Since there's been chatter about it regarding the Niners, it won't happen. Niners trades are very secretive like when they traded for CMC and Chase Young, I think Trent Williams too.
[ Edited by Alfienator on Feb 6, 2025 at 8:40 PM ]
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.

Since there's been chatter about it regarding the Niners, it won't happen. Niners trades are very secretive like when they traded for CMC and Chase Young, I think Trent Williams too.

Ehh… CMC was getting whispers, IIRC. Didn't Kawakami post an article about it earlier that day?
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.

Since there's been chatter about it regarding the Niners, it won't happen. Niners trades are very secretive like when they traded for CMC and Chase Young, I think Trent Williams too.

Any big name especially on d will have rumors of 9ers being involved, Lynch has stated multiple times if a good player is made available they will do their due diligence. So reporters are always going to speculate
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.

Since there's been chatter about it regarding the Niners, it won't happen. Niners trades are very secretive like when they traded for CMC and Chase Young, I think Trent Williams too.

Any big name especially on d will have rumors of 9ers being involved, Lynch has stated multiple times if a good player is made available they will do their due diligence. So reporters are always going to speculate

Every time they say they'll do their due diligence, it really means it's not happening.
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
As much as I'd love Garrett, think I'd rather hold onto the picks and money make a play for Bosa if/when he gets cut and draft an ER as well.

Since there's been chatter about it regarding the Niners, it won't happen. Niners trades are very secretive like when they traded for CMC and Chase Young, I think Trent Williams too.

Any big name especially on d will have rumors of 9ers being involved, Lynch has stated multiple times if a good player is made available they will do their due diligence. So reporters are always going to speculate

Every time they say they'll do their due diligence, it really means it's not happening.
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