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4ML · 2017-01-29T17:29:58-08:00

Lucked into Shanahan but Lynch as a GM? Wtf?? So many qualified GMs 49ers interviewed...and in the end - they decided to hire a guy who has ZERO experience working in a NFL Front Office. He has ZERO experience as a scout at any level. I understand, so many potential GM candidates rejected 49ers. But, to hire a guy who has never held a position that is in no way related to a day-2-day job profile of a GM is unbelievable. I'm sure Lynch is a smart guy...he was a smart player...but that has NOTHING to do with being a GM. Why take the risk at this time? --------------- edit: After having some time to digest this news...wish him all the best and I hope he proves ppl wrong. Still don't understand why we needed to take such a risk but it is what it is now. I do have to say - his first presser made a positive impression.

May 9, 2022 at 10:05 AM

#49126

NCommand
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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Sure. Shanahan is responsible for the QB he fields. Its crazy to think how the defense has kept us in these games for 3+ quarters and then be gassed half way through the 4th though. All because the offense couldn't move the ball. Than when you go back and check the film, the plays on offense were there to be made but the QB missed so many of them that the game was lossed.

You can't get up 2 scores late into the 4th QB without the defense, offense, special teams, game plan and in-game coaching all doing their part and executing.

I am not sure that you are aware of this but a 10 point lead isn't that great in the NFL. Also, when your offense scores less than 24 points in those games and the film shows receivers open on multiple plays but were not targeted by the QB. It means the play caller did their job but the QB failed to do theirs.

"10 pt lead isn't that great"

lol's

Over past three season, the

#49ers are now 3-2 with a 10-plus
point 4th-quarter lead in the
playoffs. The rest of the league is
23-0. The two losses, of course,
were Super Bowl LIV and today to
#Rams in NFC Championship
Game.
Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner)
January 31, 2022

thank you

This crowd has already ignored this numerous times. At least YAC tried to spin it.

May 9, 2022 at 10:06 AM

#49127

YACBros85
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Posts: 9,899

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do we lose the SB and the NFCCG if the offense scores their season ppg average?

Always gotta look at the context of the game. Not season averages. Esp. in the playoffs and against known rivals.

So throwing a stat out like you did yesterday without any context is okay but my question is invalid?

May 9, 2022 at 10:08 AM

#49128

NYniner85
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Posts: 119,065

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So when you watch it as objectively as you can it's all Kyles fault. Big surprise.

Regardless of me showing him a plethora of good play calls with potential for big time plays. Damn you Kyle for not throwing the ball to the right read.

May 9, 2022 at 10:10 AM

#49129

NYniner85
Veteran
Posts: 119,065

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
"10 pt lead isn't that great"

lol's

Over past three season, the

#49ers are now 3-2 with a 10-plus
point 4th-quarter lead in the
playoffs. The rest of the league is
23-0. The two losses, of course,
were Super Bowl LIV and today to
#Rams in NFC Championship
Game.
Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner)
January 31, 2022

thank you

Since you're just getting caught up on the convo here's so extra info for you

Jimmy G vs. Rams/ NFC Championship
There were a lot of open receivers in this game and the QB didn't pull the trigger nearly enough. Not all easy throws but ones your QB has to make. There were a couple nice plays but this thread is about the misses
Starting with Aiyuk wide open: pic.twitter.com/C1MtcFyaUJ
— Seth Galina (@pff_seth) February 2, 2022

#49ers Jimmy Garoppolo went 3 for 9 for 30 yards and INT in 4th quarter. In 6 playoff starts Garoppolo has a 28.0 passer rating in the 4th, ranking last among 69 QBs w/ 30+ 4th quarter passes in playoffs since 1991
— Josh Dubow (@JoshDubowAP) January 31, 2022

Jimmy G in his last 2 drives of the game:
⬛️ 1/6 for -3 yards and 1 INT
⬛️ 1 delay of game penalty pic.twitter.com/x3yhlNnI43
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) January 31, 2022

Jimmy Garoppolo's 4th Qtr Passer Rating (2.8) ranks 42nd of the 42 starting QB's in the Super Bowl since the stat was tracked in 1999 by @pfref
— Boston Sports Info (@bostonsportsinf) February 3, 2020

May 9, 2022 at 10:12 AM

#49130

CatchMaster80
Veteran
Posts: 20,576

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Sure. Shanahan is responsible for the QB he fields. Its crazy to think how the defense has kept us in these games for 3+ quarters and then be gassed half way through the 4th though. All because the offense couldn't move the ball. Than when you go back and check the film, the plays on offense were there to be made but the QB missed so many of them that the game was lossed.

You can't get up 2 scores late into the 4th QB without the defense, offense, special teams, game plan and in-game coaching all doing their part and executing.

I am not sure that you are aware of this but a 10 point lead isn't that great in the NFL. Also, when your offense scores less than 24 points in those games and the film shows receivers open on multiple plays but were not targeted by the QB. It means the play caller did their job but the QB failed to do theirs.

"10 pt lead isn't that great"

lol's

Over past three season, the

#49ers are now 3-2 with a 10-plus
point 4th-quarter lead in the
playoffs. The rest of the league is
23-0. The two losses, of course,
were Super Bowl LIV and today to
#Rams in NFC Championship
Game.
Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner)
January 31, 2022

thank you

This crowd has already ignored this numerous times. At least YAC tried to spin it.

Never mind the fact that most of the NFL hasn't even gotten that far. I know those losses hurt but at least we were in position to win. Most teams can't say that. Ask a Jets fan or Lions fan if they would trade places with us.

[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on May 9, 2022 at 10:12 AM ]

May 9, 2022 at 10:12 AM

#49131

NYniner85
Veteran
Posts: 119,065

Originally posted by NCommand:
This crowd has already ignored this numerous times. At least YAC tried to spin it.

Nope I provided facts and context to that comment and you and a couple others won't acknowledge the correlation of our QB and the 4th QR in the playoffs…especially the two games that that tweet talked about.

May 9, 2022 at 10:12 AM

#49132

49AllTheTime
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Posts: 72,766

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Sure. Shanahan is responsible for the QB he fields. Its crazy to think how the defense has kept us in these games for 3+ quarters and then be gassed half way through the 4th though. All because the offense couldn't move the ball. Than when you go back and check the film, the plays on offense were there to be made but the QB missed so many of them that the game was lossed.

You can't get up 2 scores late into the 4th QB without the defense, offense, special teams, game plan and in-game coaching all doing their part and executing.

I am not sure that you are aware of this but a 10 point lead isn't that great in the NFL. Also, when your offense scores less than 24 points in those games and the film shows receivers open on multiple plays but were not targeted by the QB. It means the play caller did their job but the QB failed to do theirs.

"10 pt lead isn't that great"

lol's

Over past three season, the

#49ers are now 3-2 with a 10-plus
point 4th-quarter lead in the
playoffs. The rest of the league is
23-0. The two losses, of course,
were Super Bowl LIV and today to
#Rams in NFC Championship
Game.
Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner)
January 31, 2022

thank you

This crowd has already ignored this numerous times. At least YAC tried to spin it.

its not ignored.. it's an aweful lazy take. a 10pt lead doesn't give the QB a pass to take a back seat, play s**tty and not even try to win the game

May 9, 2022 at 10:12 AM

#49133

Jeepzilla
Veteran
Posts: 6,720

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Dude we lost all those games because of bad play calls and a RG...clearly QB play has nothing to do with it at all. SF can just stick Sam Darnold back there and this offense will thrive apparently.

He's NEVER said that..
you throw s**t out all the time. Pathetic. NCommand said ALL phases of the team and coaching lost those games INCLUDING the QB..
Yet some of you blame only the QB..

May 9, 2022 at 10:13 AM

#49134

Hysterikal
Veteran
Posts: 39,893

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm just done wasting my time defending Kyle. If you think Kyle is the problem then your not worth having an intelligent football conversation with.

Pretty much

*you're

I said intelligent football conversation. Context is key right

May 9, 2022 at 10:14 AM

#49135

Hysterikal
Veteran
Posts: 39,893

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Dude we lost all those games because of bad play calls and a RG...clearly QB play has nothing to do with it at all. SF can just stick Sam Darnold back there and this offense will thrive apparently.

He's NEVER said that..
you throw s**t out all the time. Pathetic. NCommand said ALL phases of the team and coaching lost those games INCLUDING the QB..
Yet some of you blame only the QB..

QBs should receive the bulk of the blame.

May 9, 2022 at 10:14 AM

#49136

9ers4eva
Veteran
Posts: 22,723

Originally posted by NCommand:
Sure. Continuity is a helluva drug. I believe this was debunked too IIRC.

What was debunked? 4 out of 5 guys. Started Austin Corbett who was a failed pick in Cleveland who has since walked. Blythe for Corbett wasn't any big change. Same group.

[ Edited by 9ers4eva on May 9, 2022 at 10:14 AM ]

May 9, 2022 at 10:15 AM

#49137

Hysterikal
Veteran
Posts: 39,893

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Sure. Shanahan is responsible for the QB he fields. Its crazy to think how the defense has kept us in these games for 3+ quarters and then be gassed half way through the 4th though. All because the offense couldn't move the ball. Than when you go back and check the film, the plays on offense were there to be made but the QB missed so many of them that the game was lossed.

You can't get up 2 scores late into the 4th QB without the defense, offense, special teams, game plan and in-game coaching all doing their part and executing.

I am not sure that you are aware of this but a 10 point lead isn't that great in the NFL. Also, when your offense scores less than 24 points in those games and the film shows receivers open on multiple plays but were not targeted by the QB. It means the play caller did their job but the QB failed to do theirs.

"10 pt lead isn't that great"

lol's

Over past three season, the

#49ers are now 3-2 with a 10-plus
point 4th-quarter lead in the
playoffs. The rest of the league is
23-0. The two losses, of course,
were Super Bowl LIV and today to
#Rams in NFC Championship
Game.
Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner)
January 31, 2022

thank you

This crowd has already ignored this numerous times. At least YAC tried to spin it.
its not ignored.. it's an aweful lazy take. a 10pt lead doesn't give the QB a pass to take a back seat, play s**tty and not even try to win the game

Lol how many of those teams with a 10 point leads were just 10 points? How many of those 10 point leads were not extended by more scores? But context

May 9, 2022 at 10:18 AM

#49138

Hoovtrain
Veteran
Posts: 35,018

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Sure. Continuity is a helluva drug. I believe this was debunked too IIRC.

What was debunked? 4 out of 5 guys. Started Austin Corbett who was a failed pick in Cleveland who has since walked. Blythe for Corbett wasn't any big change. Same group.

The only thing that was debunked, multiple times, was that they somehow did this build up or re-haul of the OL.

May 9, 2022 at 10:18 AM

#49139

Jeepzilla
Veteran
Posts: 6,720

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Dude we lost all those games because of bad play calls and a RG...clearly QB play has nothing to do with it at all. SF can just stick Sam Darnold back there and this offense will thrive apparently.

He's NEVER said that..
you throw s**t out all the time. Pathetic. NCommand said ALL phases of the team and coaching lost those games INCLUDING the QB..
Yet some of you blame only the QB..

QBs should receive the bulk of the blame.

I agree and jimmys getting the bulk of the blame.
i think the 23-0 stat should be looked at more in depth because that's a pretty telling stat like which QB's played in those 23 games.

May 9, 2022 at 10:21 AM

#49140

NCommand
Hall of Fame
Posts: 123,365

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do we lose the SB and the NFCCG if the offense scores their season ppg average?

Always gotta look at the context of the game. Not season averages. Esp. in the playoffs and against known rivals.

So throwing a stat out like you did yesterday without any context is okay but my question is invalid?

The stat is comprehensive across all teams with at least a 10 point lead in the 4Q. That makes it relevant to compare us to the rest of the league.

Now, if you can find a stat on needing to score up to a specific team average compared to all teams, sure. That would be comprehensive.