Originally posted by BMoore56:Don't feed the trolls
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
The pieces were not already there lmao.
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Mar 14, 2022 at 11:09 PM
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Mar 14, 2022 at 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by BMoore56:Don't feed the trolls
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
The pieces were not already there lmao.
Seriously. The turnover of the roster post-2016 was extreme. This isn't even arguable.
Mar 14, 2022 at 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by BMoore56:Don't feed the trolls
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
The pieces were not already there lmao.
Seriously. The turnover of the roster post-2016 was extreme. This isn't even arguable.
Yeah, agree, if you feed Trolls, you get more trolls.
Mar 15, 2022 at 5:23 AM
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Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
No they werent Do a little research otherwise you do make it look as though you are from another team, trolling. He inherited an absolute garbage team and built it to one of the top teams in the NFL, whilst rolling out a strategy to stay at or near the top.
Mar 15, 2022 at 5:37 AM
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Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
Wtf are you talking about?
Mar 15, 2022 at 6:48 AM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
Wtf are you talking about?
Mar 15, 2022 at 7:01 AM
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Mar 15, 2022 at 7:12 AM
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Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Lol. Except for that part where he built a super bowl roster in year three and another roster that was :15 minutes away from another one in year five.
He built? Lol the pieces were already there. Shanny and the coaching staff brought out the potential of the team. This is the guy that picked solomon thomas. Lmfao
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
The 49ers have just 16 players from Week 17 of last year on 2017 opening day roster; an all-time record for roster turnover 1 year to next.
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Mar 15, 2022 at 7:37 AM
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Originally posted by boast:
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
The 49ers have just 16 players from Week 17 of last year on 2017 opening day roster; an all-time record for roster turnover 1 year to next.
— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) September 10, 2017
He's not totally off base. We had a very strong core with Staley and Ward, Armstead, Buckner who hadn't hit their potential. And handed the FO the keys on a silver platter with the #2 pick, most salary cap, etc.
Lynch overall has done well but we made some really inexcusable missteps in year 1 and beyond with very premium picks (overpaying a ton of complete trash FA, #2 pick on Thomas, 1st on Foster, #9 on McGlinchey, trading a 2 and 3 for Pettis, and Dee Ford, Kinlaw over the other studs available, McKinnon in FA). These mistakes cost us dearly in our SB runs when those picks / cap charges contributed 0, which is a big reason we're against the cap today.
49ers definitely either have or will need to change something about their process because outside Bosa who was just a gimme, they haven't really nailed any premium picks. I think they have strong scouting talents in their front office and are league leaders in capitalizing on later picks so perhaps they need to fire / mute some voices and amplify / promote others. If there is someone disproportionately responsible for our late draft hits we should make them GM and Lynch president. Can't lose them or the FO suddenly sucks.
[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Mar 15, 2022 at 7:40 AM ]
Mar 15, 2022 at 8:47 AM
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Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
He's not totally off base. We had a very strong core with Staley and Ward, Armstead, Buckner who hadn't hit their potential. And handed the FO the keys on a silver platter with the #2 pick, most salary cap, etc.
Lynch overall has done well but we made some really inexcusable missteps in year 1 and beyond with very premium picks (overpaying a ton of complete trash FA, #2 pick on Thomas, 1st on Foster, #9 on McGlinchey, trading a 2 and 3 for Pettis, and Dee Ford, Kinlaw over the other studs available, McKinnon in FA). These mistakes cost us dearly in our SB runs when those picks / cap charges contributed 0, which is a big reason we're against the cap today.
49ers definitely either have or will need to change something about their process because outside Bosa who was just a gimme, they haven't really nailed any premium picks. I think they have strong scouting talents in their front office and are league leaders in capitalizing on later picks so perhaps they need to fire / mute some voices and amplify / promote others. If there is someone disproportionately responsible for our late draft hits we should make them GM and Lynch president. Can't lose them or the FO suddenly sucks.
That isn't a strong core. It's one All Pro with some young DT's and a solid safety.
Mar 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
Originally posted by boast:
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
The 49ers have just 16 players from Week 17 of last year on 2017 opening day roster; an all-time record for roster turnover 1 year to next.
— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) September 10, 2017
He's not totally off base. We had a very strong core with Staley and Ward, Armstead, Buckner who hadn't hit their potential. And handed the FO the keys on a silver platter with the #2 pick, most salary cap, etc.
Lynch overall has done well but we made some really inexcusable missteps in year 1 and beyond with very premium picks (overpaying a ton of complete trash FA, #2 pick on Thomas, 1st on Foster, #9 on McGlinchey, trading a 2 and 3 for Pettis, and Dee Ford, Kinlaw over the other studs available, McKinnon in FA). These mistakes cost us dearly in our SB runs when those picks / cap charges contributed 0, which is a big reason we're against the cap today.
49ers definitely either have or will need to change something about their process because outside Bosa who was just a gimme, they haven't really nailed any premium picks. I think they have strong scouting talents in their front office and are league leaders in capitalizing on later picks so perhaps they need to fire / mute some voices and amplify / promote others. If there is someone disproportionately responsible for our late draft hits we should make them GM and Lynch president. Can't lose them or the FO suddenly sucks.
This narrative is getting old. Thomas was a top 5 pick on literally every draft board, Foster was a known risk, and McGlinchey was the drafts top rated OT. McGlinchey has been above average, just not stellar. I find it funny that people expect every pick to pan out. These were not "inexcusable."
Overall, the niners have done a really nice job building talent and a ridiculous amount of depth at multiple positions. They have top players (potentially best in the league) at multiple core positions (DE, LB, TE, WR, LT & Center) - note I don't highlight RB, even though we appear to be an awesome RB shop. This was done in the draft and in FA. We got the best OT in football for a 3rd round pick (in the following year's draft)??
Also, you mentioned Armstead and Buckner, who needed several years to see their potential >> Kinlaw will have an opportunity to show his potential. We also got Aiyuk, who has been very good for a young receiver in the same round.
The niners are going to be competitive every year. We have good management, coaching, culture, etc. I'm not sure what else people want. We had like 15 years of dumpster fires with 3 years of Harbaugh, which had its own tribulations.
Mar 15, 2022 at 8:55 AM
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
That isn't a strong core. It's one All Pro with some young DT's and a solid safety.
No skill position players either.
Mar 15, 2022 at 9:02 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:It can be argued that Ward and Armstead weren't even solid at that point. They both developed nicely under Saleh.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
That isn't a strong core. It's one All Pro with some young DT's and a solid safety.
No skill position players either.
Mar 15, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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I'd be very happy with a nice KR/PR
Mar 15, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:It can be argued that Ward and Armstead weren't even solid at that point. They both developed nicely under Saleh.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
That isn't a strong core. It's one All Pro with some young DT's and a solid safety.
No skill position players either.
Yes, completely agree. The team's talent level was recognized as one of the worst in the league.