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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Improved? They lost $7.25M in cap room with this deal. Cap casualties are just that cap casualties, cause they're over the cap, and need cap room, they're not in good cap shape, the 49ers are much better off, with this deal, the Rams would be $39.5M over the cap if the cap is $175M, we'd be $13.971M UNDER a $175M cap right now.

So tell me about their status next year? The year after that?

Is 7 million that big of a deal considering? The bottom line is they got rid of a huge burden and you can't deny that

And this has nothing to do with our status, not sure why you're bringing that up.
[ Edited by davide49 on Jan 31, 2021 at 3:00 AM ]
Originally posted by MStoGKfor6:
I wish there was a way we could fire Lynch and Shanahan without actually getting rid of them, because I doubt we'd come close to getting anyone better, but this is just unbelievably frustrating.

When this FO is content to trot out a combination of Jimmy, Beathard, Mullens, and Rosen again next season and Jimmy inevitably goes down after a few weeks of mediocre up and down play, it will be infuriating. And these a*****es will have the nerve to pretend again like our injury problems are just bad luck and not the product of their insistence on gambling on the most injury prone players in existence.

Originally posted by MStoGKfor6:
I wish there was a way we could fire Lynch and Shanahan without actually getting rid of them, because I doubt we'd come close to getting anyone better, but this is just unbelievably frustrating.

When this FO is content to trot out a combination of Jimmy, Beathard, Mullens, and Rosen again next season and Jimmy inevitably goes down after a few weeks of mediocre up and down play, it will be infuriating. And these a*****es will have the nerve to pretend again like our injury problems are just bad luck and not the product of their insistence on gambling on the most injury prone players in existence.

Well, you don't know who they will trot out, because it is still only January, but since their first draft I don't recall us gambling on the most injury prone players. And your first paragraph makes no sense.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Sooooo many anything-but-Jimmy guys on Twitter with huge egg on their faces right now. This is Khalil Mack 2.0. This #MoneyBall team was never going to compete.

This is the way to go.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 31, 2021 at 4:59 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Sooooo many anything-but-Jimmy guys on Twitter with huge egg on their faces right now. This is Khalil Mack 2.0. This #MoneyBall team was never going to compete.

This is the way to go.


Shanahan has had a QB he hand picked for four years and has failed to develop him. He had two franchise QBs fall into his lap in 2017.

I don't have a lot of faith with Shanahan when it comes to picking and developing young QBs. Maximizing vets? Yeah, he has a track record of that. But picking or developing young ones? I'm skeptical.

But as an aside, Watson is on his way to a Hall of Fame career. The moon is a fair price for him.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Sooooo many anything-but-Jimmy guys on Twitter with huge egg on their faces right now. This is Khalil Mack 2.0. This #MoneyBall team was never going to compete.

This is the way to go.


Shanahan has had a QB he hand picked for four years and has failed to develop him. He had two franchise QBs fall into his lap in 2017.

I don't have a lot of faith with Shanahan when it comes to picking and developing young QBs. Maximizing vets? Yeah, he has a track record of that. But picking or developing young ones? I'm skeptical.

But as an aside, Watson is on his way to a Hall of Fame career. The moon is a fair price for him.

It's fair to question him given who he's passed over and who he has picked (BeatHard as depth) but let's see what he does this year with #12. First round is a SERIOUS QB pick.
They'll get to first base but that's about it.

Nailed it.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Sooooo many anything-but-Jimmy guys on Twitter with huge egg on their faces right now. This is Khalil Mack 2.0. This #MoneyBall team was never going to compete.

This is the way to go.


Shanahan has had a QB he hand picked for four years and has failed to develop him. He had two franchise QBs fall into his lap in 2017.

I don't have a lot of faith with Shanahan when it comes to picking and developing young QBs. Maximizing vets? Yeah, he has a track record of that. But picking or developing young ones? I'm skeptical.

But as an aside, Watson is on his way to a Hall of Fame career. The moon is a fair price for him.

It's fair to question him given who he's passed over and who he has picked (BeatHard as depth) but let's see what he does this year with #12. First round is a SERIOUS QB pick.

Don't be disappointed if he picks Kyle Pitts or a tackle (if we lose Trent). Or even a cornerback.

I mean think about it: if the roster is pretty good when healthy, you want to maximize it while you got it (the window is starting to close). You just failed to get Stafford, and you're not getting Watson, so you're riding with Jimmy. But Jimmy has weaknesses (outside the numbers down the field in particular). How to you mitigate that? With a second elite guy who can dominate in the seams: Kyle Pitts.

So, they may go QB. But they could go Pitts, too.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nailed it.


Then again, there's always the dream...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/deshaun-watson-scrubs-texans-social-175108872.html
Here is why I like lynch not giving in. I think of all the franchises that are competitive year in and year out and are well run

Packers, patriots, steelers, ravens


None of them would have done that deal. There are smart organizations, and then there's the rams. And then there are the idiots on here that are mad at lynch for not mortgaging the future.
[ Edited by JoseCortez on Jan 31, 2021 at 5:46 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco on his podcast: "The Niners were not serious players for Matthew Stafford."

I feel bad for those poor podcasters who were convinced we were serious on Stafford. Heck, I even shared a few of their tweets

Sterling Bennett's tweet was the best one, I asked on Facebook who the f**k that dude even is/was.

Sooooo many anything-but-Jimmy guys on Twitter with huge egg on their faces right now. This is Khalil Mack 2.0. This #MoneyBall team was never going to compete.

This is the way to go.


Shanahan has had a QB he hand picked for four years and has failed to develop him. He had two franchise QBs fall into his lap in 2017.

I don't have a lot of faith with Shanahan when it comes to picking and developing young QBs. Maximizing vets? Yeah, he has a track record of that. But picking or developing young ones? I'm skeptical.

But as an aside, Watson is on his way to a Hall of Fame career. The moon is a fair price for him.

It's fair to question him given who he's passed over and who he has picked (BeatHard as depth) but let's see what he does this year with #12. First round is a SERIOUS QB pick.

Don't be disappointed if he picks Kyle Pitts or a tackle (if we lose Trent). Or even a cornerback.

I mean think about it: if the roster is pretty good when healthy, you want to maximize it while you got it (the window is starting to close). You just failed to get Stafford, and you're not getting Watson, so you're riding with Jimmy. But Jimmy has weaknesses (outside the numbers down the field in particular). How to you mitigate that? With a second elite guy who can dominate in the seams: Kyle Pitts.

So, they may go QB. But they could go Pitts, too.

I could see it. They bank on health, maybe take pass protection seriously for a change and upgrade the OL or add Pitts to rape defenses with 2 dynamic TE's as defenses won't know if we'll run OR pass out of those sets and play to Garoppolo's strengths.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Here is why I like lynch not giving in. I think of all the franchises that are competitive year in and year out and are well run

Packers, patriots, steelers, ravens


None of them would have done that deal. There are smart organizations, and then there's the rams. And then there are the idiots on here that are mad at lynch for not mortgaging the future.

All of those franchises spend big and/or had a FQB. I'm assuming you're implying the Rams are dumb yet they've upgraded every year and have been in the playoffs virtually every year even with Goff.

If anything, it proves there are multiple ways to build and sustain a roster around the salary cap now.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 31, 2021 at 7:06 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Here is why I like lynch not giving in. I think of all the franchises that are competitive year in and year out and are well run

Packers, patriots, steelers, ravens


None of them would have done that deal. There are smart organizations, and then there's the rams. And then there are the idiots on here that are mad at lynch for not mortgaging the future.

All of those franchises spend big and/or had a FQB. I'm assuming you're implying the Rams are dumb yet they've upgraded every year and have is the playoffs beastly every year even with Goff.

If anything, it proves there are multiple ways to build and sustain a roster around the salary cap now.

I mean, the Rams have been in the playoffs three of the last four seasons. If that isn't success, what is?
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