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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
b******t, Harbaugh inherited a loaded roster and once the core got older and injured, he couldn't hold it together. Mostly Baalke's fault for not reloading the roster, but Baalke didn't have anything to do with the constant delay of games, the terrible clock management, the inability to adapt when his Bo Schembeckler "offense" got figured out. Jim is where he belongs, in the minor leagues where his rah rah b******t might have some longevity.

Really?

What about what he did for us?!?!?!
What about that?

The facts dont lie.


"The 49ers are still paying the price for ejecting Jim Harbaugh after the 2014 season. The question now is, how many years will they have to continue paying it?

When push came to shove in 2014 in a battle between the head coach and general manager Trent Baalke, 49ers CEO Jed York sided with Baalke. Now, two seasons after, Baalke is gone, too, having been fired along with head coach Chip Kelly at the tail end of a 2-14 season.

There are the pre-Harbaugh 49ers and the post-Harbaugh 49ers, and both have been ugly. The Harbaugh era, however, stands like a beacon. Consider:

In the eight seasons before Harbaugh arrived in 2011, the 49ers hadn't had a single winning season and were a cumulative 46-82. In the two seasons since he was let go, the 49ers are 7-25. In the four seasons Harbaugh was on the job in San Francisco, the 49ers were 44-19, went to three straight NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl and never had a losing season.

Even at the time Harbaugh was losing the internal power struggle, it seemed obvious to many that the franchise was backing the wrong person in Baalke over Harbaugh. Successful and dynamic head coaches don't come along all the time – as Jim Tomsula and Kelly have shown.

As Tony Manfred of Business Insider wrote in December of 2014, the 49ers were taking an enormous gamble by allowing Harbaugh – who's won at every stop of his coaching career -- to leave because he had a fractious relationship with Baalke and York. The smart move would have been to bring in a different GM and work on relationship building. After all, it's not like NFL history wasn't telling that story loud and clear. Teams such as the Cowboys (Jimmy Johnson), Chargers (Bobby Ross and Marty Schottenheimer), Bears (Lovie Smith) and Raiders (Jon Gruden) have gotten rid of successful coaches because of front-office friction and paid the price for a long while.

"The 49ers are taking a gigantic risk here," wrote Manfred. "Harbaugh has set an impossible standard for his successor – even his worst season (8-8 in 2014) wasn't that bad. If the team doesn't get back to the top of the NFC quickly, all anyone is going to remember is that the 49ers let Jim Harbaugh leave for no reason."

Of course, Harbaugh's successors, Tomsula and Kelly, didn't have the talent on their rosters that Harbaugh did, because Baalke has whiffed on so many recent drafts. Bad drafts, retirements, injuries and free-agent defections have left the roster thin of impact talent.

But it's also possible Harbaugh may have been able to overcome some of those issues. And, if Baalke had been let go instead of Harbaugh after the 2014 season, this team may have had a much better group of players in 2015 and 2016 because of better draft and free-agent decisions.

Of course, that's all conjecture.

What isn't conjecture is that Harbaugh is the one head coach who brought success and order to this franchise since Steve Mariucci was shown the door after the 2002 season. The 49ers – who now must find a new GM, head coach and coaching staff – are now one of the NFL's worst teams because York made the wrong decision after the 2014 season."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Niners-Still-Haunted-by-Jim-Harbaugh-Mistake--409323835.html%3Famp%3Dy?client=safari
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 3:12 AM ]
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mlive.com/articles/14826321/jim_harbaughs_ability_to_devel.amp?client=safari

"Jim Harbaugh's ability to develop talent, squeeze most out players sets him apart"

https://www.google.com/amp/isportsweb.com/2017/02/01/how-michigan-footballs-2017-recruiting-class-stacks-up/amp/?client=safari

"A closer look at Michigan Football's historic 2017 recruiting class"

Whooping Nick Sabans ass in his second year of recruiting



Give the man his props and step to the side.. It was a mistake..

John Lynch knows what time it is...
Start drafting winners John!!!

Harbaugh seems to make history wherever he goes huh????? Most winning coach in his first 3 years of the NFL!!! and now beating Saban in his own playground..


TRUE STORY!!!!!

Facts....
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 3:27 AM ]
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mlive.com/articles/14826321/jim_harbaughs_ability_to_devel.amp?client=safari

"Jim Harbaugh's ability to develop talent, squeeze most out players sets him apart"

https://www.google.com/amp/isportsweb.com/2017/02/01/how-michigan-footballs-2017-recruiting-class-stacks-up/amp/?client=safari

"A closer look at Michigan Football's historic 2017 recruiting class"

Whooping Nick Sabans ass in his second year of recruiting



Give the man his props and step to the side.. It was a mistake..

John Lynch knows what time it is...
Start drafting winners John!!!

Harbaugh seems to make history wherever he goes huh????? Most winning coach in his first 3 years of the NFL!!! and now beating Saban in his own playground..


TRUE STORY!!!!!

Facts....

Jim is a great motivator of men. A pretty good coach. He isn't as great as some say. I'll give him a 7.

Shanahan is light years ahead in offensive genius tho. Jim had to go back to college, his offense still hasn't made it into the 21st century.
"Michigan also landed some of the top players from multiple position groups.

Michigan landed four of the top 28 wide receivers; No. 1 Donovan Peoples-Jones, No. 17 Tarik Black, No. 23 Nico Collins, and No. 28 Oliver Martin

The Wolverines landed the No. 1 center in the country, Cesar Ruiz

Michigan landed the No. 2 (Aubrey Solomon) and No. 13 (James Hudson) ranked defensive tackles.

Michigan landed the N0. 5 weak side defensive end, Luiji Vilain. They also landed the No. 10 (Deron Irving-Bey) and No. 13 (Donovan Jeter) strong side defensive ends.

Michigan landed the No. 4 (Drew Singleton) and No. 8 (Jordan Anthony) outside linebackers. They also landed the No. 9 inside linebacker (Josh Ross).

Michigan landed the No. 13 ranked cornerback in Ambry Thomas.

Michigan landed the No. 5 pro-style quarterback in Dylan McCaffrey.

Michigan landed the nation's No. 1 punter, Brad Robbins

Final thoughts

Michigan's 2017 recruiting class is now considered the best recruiting class in school history, in the recruiting services era. Last year's class was the third best class in school history, so Michigan has now loaded up back-to-back classes with very talented players which bodes well for the future."

Jim Harbaugh and Chris Partridge are killing it!!!

I tried telling you guys along time ago

John Lynch you a bright guy from what I hear.. You already know what colleges you need to be in contact with
Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mlive.com/articles/14826321/jim_harbaughs_ability_to_devel.amp?client=safari

"Jim Harbaugh's ability to develop talent, squeeze most out players sets him apart"

https://www.google.com/amp/isportsweb.com/2017/02/01/how-michigan-footballs-2017-recruiting-class-stacks-up/amp/?client=safari

"A closer look at Michigan Football's historic 2017 recruiting class"

Whooping Nick Sabans ass in his second year of recruiting



Give the man his props and step to the side.. It was a mistake..

John Lynch knows what time it is...
Start drafting winners John!!!

Harbaugh seems to make history wherever he goes huh????? Most winning coach in his first 3 years of the NFL!!! and now beating Saban in his own playground..


TRUE STORY!!!!!

Facts....

Jim is a great motivator of men. A pretty good coach. He isn't as great as some say. I'll give him a 7.

Shanahan is light years ahead in offensive genius tho. Jim had to go back to college, his offense still hasn't made it into the 21st century.

"Of course, Harbaugh's successors, Tomsula and Kelly, didn't have the talent on their rosters that Harbaugh did, because Baalke has whiffed on so many recent drafts. Bad drafts, retirements, injuries and free-agent defections have left the roster thin of impact talent.

But it's also possible Harbaugh may have been able to overcome some of those issues. And, if Baalke had been let go instead of Harbaugh after the 2014 season, this team may have had a much better group of players in 2015 and 2016 because of better draft and free-agent decisions."

Lmfao maybe if the GM knew had to draft. You guys were spoiled what he did with the guys that were here. When baalke started flopping!! 2012 no players is on the roster...

What does that do to a team... Where was this Qb? Where was the wr? For this offense???

You guys crack me up knowing all the failed draft picks..

Shananhan hasnt done close to what Jim has done..

Most winning coach in his first 3 years of tenure... stop it..

I like shanny but lets not get to far ahead of ourselves.

Some just cant give credit where its due. Mind boggling!!!

Whats happens to the team when the Gm cant draft??? But but but the offense sucked!!

Ofcourse look who was are gm!!! Kyle williams was his best wr drafted!!!
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 3:47 AM ]
That weak offense crap or theory some are still trying to push in 2014 has been debunked. Aj Junkins is doing great!!! Andy Reid sure showed Harbaugh how great Aj can be!!! bad Harbaugh!!! Mhm sure let it go....

Blame it on the guy who doesnt have a player on the roster from 2012 draft.. Blame it on the guy who couldnt draft a wr to save his life or job!! Blame it on the guy for not drafting a Qb since Kap...

Not everyone can turn s**t to gold.... How many failed drafts???

Um yea that will do it... No wonder Harbaugh was pissed!!

No wonder John is testing the leak s**t show we have over here.

Because they were to busy protecting Losers!!!

Harbaugh built this, accept it and move on..

Im thrilled John is testing this organization... Shows he is not f**king around...
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 4:04 AM ]
This thread is for discussing Lynch not Harbaugh. thanks.
Originally posted by English:
This thread is for discussing Lynch not Harbaugh. thanks.

What happen to this post 4 pages ago???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thanks...

I didnt bring up the topic. Stay on top of things then.

My point ended with John Lynch.. Message.....
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 4:08 AM ]
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
b******t, Harbaugh inherited a loaded roster and once the core got older and injured, he couldn't hold it together. Mostly Baalke's fault for not reloading the roster, but Baalke didn't have anything to do with the constant delay of games, the terrible clock management, the inability to adapt when his Bo Schembeckler "offense" got figured out. Jim is where he belongs, in the minor leagues where his rah rah b******t might have some longevity.

And if he wants to come back the the Major Leagues he will probably be the highest paid coach in the NFL

That would be a huge mistake for him. Like I said, he's exactly where he belongs right where he is.

Like you said? Lol.. You are far from an expert on the topic where someone should just take your word for it.

Exactly like I said...a great NFL coach has to be flexible, which Jim Harbaugh has proven he's not. Give him a roster of pro bowlers, he's able to win. His "quarterback whisperer" reputation was just hot air, his lip service to bringing the WCO was a flat out lie, and his constant mismanagement of the game clock make me question if you know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
b******t, Harbaugh inherited a loaded roster and once the core got older and injured, he couldn't hold it together. Mostly Baalke's fault for not reloading the roster, but Baalke didn't have anything to do with the constant delay of games, the terrible clock management, the inability to adapt when his Bo Schembeckler "offense" got figured out. Jim is where he belongs, in the minor leagues where his rah rah b******t might have some longevity.

And if he wants to come back the the Major Leagues he will probably be the highest paid coach in the NFL

That would be a huge mistake for him. Like I said, he's exactly where he belongs right where he is.

Like you said? Lol.. You are far from an expert on the topic where someone should just take your word for it.

Exactly like I said...a great NFL coach has to be flexible, which Jim Harbaugh has proven he's not. Give him a roster of pro bowlers, he's able to win. His "quarterback whisperer" reputation was just hot air, his lip service to bringing the WCO was a flat out lie, and his constant mismanagement of the game clock make me question if you know what you're talking about.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2016/11/23/jake-rudock-detroit-lions/94350408/


One year under Harbaugh and detroit plays keep away with bears.

Qb theory Debunked... Anymore theories???
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 4:14 AM ]
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by English:
This thread is for discussing Lynch not Harbaugh. thanks.

What happen to this post 4 pages ago???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thanks...

I didnt bring up the topic. Stay on top of things then.

My point ended with John Lynch.. Message.....

Are you under the impression this place has full time moderation?

Now people, back on subject please.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by English:
This thread is for discussing Lynch not Harbaugh. thanks.

What happen to this post 4 pages ago???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thanks...

I didnt bring up the topic. Stay on top of things then.

My point ended with John Lynch.. Message.....

Are you under the impression this place has full time moderation?

Now people, back on subject please.

You keep saying the same thing over and over to me yet everytime I rebuttal, You post after I rebuttal?

I find that strange and troubling due to your history of suspending the wrong posters..

Im not under any impression... I look at facts..

Np will do as long as it applies to all......
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Feb 2, 2017 at 4:20 AM ]
Harbaughs best attribute is his rah rah approach and his ability to bring in quality position coaches and coordinators.

You mentioning his success at recruiting in college does nothing as far as NFL. Totally different situation. Read David Shaw's comments on that subject.

Harbaugh inherited a great roster here but he did do a lot of good things to change the culture and did a lot of smart things in the beginning. The issue was when those things no longer worked he couldn't or didn't want to adapt which is why he was fired. Not every former player or coach is a great talent evaluator.

I think a guy like Lynch who while playing defense is way less emotional than Harbaugh is a much better fit for a GM role, especially because he knows his weaknesses and will rely on experienced front office guys for help.

Lynch played with a lot of toughness but he was calm and collected while Harbaugh was a nutcase. It's easy to say he would've drafted better than Baalke but the guys he vouched for certainly didn't light the world on fire and his own players he didn't vouch for have been killing us for years.

I'm very curious to see our first offseason with Lynch/Shanahan. I love the "no stone unturned" comment.
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by English:
This thread is for discussing Lynch not Harbaugh. thanks.

What happen to this post 4 pages ago???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thanks...

I didnt bring up the topic. Stay on top of things then.

My point ended with John Lynch.. Message.....

Are you under the impression this place has full time moderation?

Now people, back on subject please.

You keep saying the same thing over and over to me yet everytime I rebuttal, You post after I rebuttal?

I find that strange and troubling due to your history of suspending the wrong posters..

Im not under any impression... I look at facts..

Np will do as long as it applies to all......

No idea what you are talking about. I am not saying anything to you, I am just trying to get a thread back on subject. PM the Mods if you have problems.
Harbaugh is the past let's look at present to future things are getting better
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