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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
How much influence will the Analytics department have on the draft?
Has the value driven philosophy been a product of Baalke or direction from Analytics. Were the ACL picks a Trent fetish or part of an organizational philosophy?
Regardless of what the case may be, I hope the team is looking to change their roster and draft building philosophies.

He addressed this very topic, during the KNBR interview ... and what I took from his words are this:
he will listen -- as he states during the interview -- (because) I understand that Paraag, is one of the
best in the league at it. He went on to say, I'd be foolish to not listen to that type of input ...

Reading between the lines (of that part of the segment), I came away with the feeling that he'll do
what's best for the teams chances to win, beyond the analytics etc ...

https://audioboom.com/posts/5560086-2-1-49ers-gm-john-lynch-s-first-ever-interview-on-knbr-680

Thanks man, I definitely hope that is the way things will work.

Yeah, he said it WON'T be a big part of what they do here but essentially, he's going to be open to it and if he can use it as a tool he will. How hard the analytics team pushes or advises, I don't know.
  • pd24
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Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I wasn't referencing the reporting structure, rather the building up the FO, hirings, adding accurate titles and defining clear roles. That's a big deal. We're going to have many more cooks in the kitchen now under this new structure so it'll be on Lynch to oversee that. But he's off to a great start..while admitting they are still defining roles, titles, it's fluid right now, etc.

John Lynch will have final say on all draft picks, and on all trades. People with that kind of power take advice. They don't delegate the decision making. That's not how the world works. Below Lynch they'll be defining rolls.

Pretty sure he's has control of the 90 man roster and Kyle has control of the 53 (reported)....lynch is gonna be similar to Elway, gonna listen to his scouts (a lot) and work with HC to figure out how they want the team to look. Lynch is well respected in the NFL and I think FAs will want to play for him (compared to baalke).

I think that's a great division of power. They'll all talk and give their opinions, but Lynch hires them, but since you don't want to keep someone the coaches won't play, Kyle cuts them.

I'm just so delighted we have smart people running the show now, and fully expect they will certainly set up a culture where everybody can make their opinions heard and respected. Somebody is charged to make the final decisions when there isn't a consensus, however, and this system makes great sense.
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Forced into Analytics, John Lynch shows his frustration by startling a sleeping Paraag on the lower left...

Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Here's my thing. Almost every player in any teams or draft guru's top 200 are full of talent. The winners are the ones who can identify which ones love to play football, have work ethic, and understand the game.
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Yeah, it is a tool. And we've got a decent sized Silicon Valley analytics team. So no doubt John will be presented with a lot to listen too.

But at the end of the day, he'll rely more on the approach Bill Walsh took with him...side by side tape of him making a play compared to Ronnie Lott.

Paraag Marathe Chief Strategy Officer and EVP of Football Operations
Brian Hampton Director of Football Administration & Analytics
Kwesi Adofo-Mensah Football R&D Analyst
Jeffrey Diamond Salary Cap Analyst
Steve Wagner Manager of Football Systems
Neil Mayfield Software Developer
Dyng Au Software Developer
Originally posted by Niners99:
Lynch, when asked what Paraag Marathe's role will be in the FO...

"I report to Jed York."


And Jed reports to Paraag.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Lynch, when asked what Paraag Marathe's role will be in the FO...

"I report to Jed York."


HE COOL !!

HEEEE COOOOOL !!!

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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Here's my thing. Almost every player in any teams or draft guru's top 200 are full of talent. The winners are the ones who can identify which ones love to play football, have work ethic, and understand the game.

That is a part of the information gathering process. It doesn't have to be one or the other. For instance there are certain measurements or timed numbers that separate elite pass rushers that successfully transition into the NFL, those stats would be useful to have, especially on bubble guys you take flyers on later in the draft and undrafted FA's.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The underlined above is what I've always believed about Jed. I have never bought the line that all he cares about is money or that he's cheap. Maybe his dad John was like that, but I never thought that way about Jed. I know folks around here give him crap, and he absolutely deserves some of it for some of the decisions he's made, but sometimes I just think he gets flack for some things that I don't think are true.

I hope that a big part of it was just immaturity that he is taking his time figuring stuff out. This is the best thing that 49ers fans can hope for because Jed is not going anywhere anytime soon.

Josh McDaniels took an NFL team and basically ran them into the ground at the age of 32 and that is after having been a successful coordinator for a tremendous football franchise.

Jed got a billion-dollar football franchise at even a younger age. I guess the silver lining I'm looking for is that he was figuring out what doesn't work and that he is growing and maturing and you hope he's going to do a better job going forwards now that he's learned things the hard way.

Despite what was said by many and assumed by others, I never bought into Jed not being bothered by being ripped in the press, banners flying over the stadium, negative comments re: his being born with a silver spoon in his mouth, being handed a very expensive toy by his daddy, being a loser, being a nitwit, not caring about whether we win or lose...just as long as we made money....and so on. The list is lengthy and everyone has heard this a gazillion times. It seems highly improbable to me that Jed wasn't really bugged by all this. He was the natural whipping boy. When his dad was here, HE was the whipping boy. So altho Jed looked like the world was his oyster, it had to bother him. It was a rare day when somebody or some group didn't tar and feather him.

So no, I never bought into jed not caring. He had to have had. Besides there was always uncle Eddie's 5 Lombardi's on display out front. So the fact this all went down is proof that Jed wanted to do way better than he (or they, peeg) were doing. Pretty simply, he probably just had no idea WTF was going on, got used and abused by folks, some close to him, and then there is peeg. We may not know just what the deal was there, tho I thot for some time, he was the guy in camp who kept Dr York posted on what was going on in Santa Clara, and kept Jed from making some incredible bonehead move.. Now, the only thing remaining is, will peeg keep his mitts off and his mouth shut when it comes time for FA. If it turns out he has final say on just how much can be offered to a FA, then this entire exercise was bogus. But if Lynch and Kyle can be the ones to raise the ante on prospective FAs, then, yes, this worked out way better than anyone could have expected.

All I want is to see what transpires on day 1 of FA. If we get skunked again like last yr, and then it happens again on day 2....then we got lied to. Or at least the truth was kept from us. Peeg cannot have any say as to how much an FA is offered, or Lynch and kyle are neutered. I sincerely hope we do not find that out. But no question, by end of day 1, it will be obvious to one and all...just who is king of the heap. Sure hope it is Lynch and Kyle.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Here's my thing. Almost every player in any teams or draft guru's top 200 are full of talent. The winners are the ones who can identify which ones love to play football, have work ethic, and understand the game.

And fit the system.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Here's my thing. Almost every player in any teams or draft guru's top 200 are full of talent. The winners are the ones who can identify which ones love to play football, have work ethic, and understand the game.

And fit the system.

And have long arms.
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by pd24:
Nothing wrong with analytics from player evaluations to specific down and distance situations. Always good to have the most information available to you to help you make any decision.

Here's my thing. Almost every player in any teams or draft guru's top 200 are full of talent. The winners are the ones who can identify which ones love to play football, have work ethic, and understand the game.

And fit the system.

And have long arms.

And have big hands.
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I listened to the lynch interview and the dude talks totally opposite of baalke. Actually i thought he talked a bit too much but maybe he was just a bit nervous.
Originally posted by susweel:
I listened to the lynch interview and the dude talks totally opposite of baalke. Actually i thought he talked a bit too much but maybe he was just a bit nervous.

"Somewhere in there I think he said we're going to run the football."
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