John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by NCommand:

Well yeah. Everyone knows Jed is the smartest man in the room...and when he isn't, Paraag is.

I sure they're both really smart guys. Just not at football.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/1/30/14447750/better-rivals-podcast-49ers-gm-john-lynch-dan-hatman


Great podcast sorry if already posted.

The guy said he talked to several people across NFL front offices and they were unilaterally surprised and annoyed by the Niners.

Great.

I do hope for the best but f**k you Jed.

So these front office guys are just butthurt that they didn't get the job they wanted. And that you can spend 10 years working as a scout, only to have some guy who has never done it before take your dream job away from you.

Boo f**king hoo for them

LMAO

This Dude knocked out his own Brother-in-Law during a game ..... you don't think he's going to Ball-Out???

Originally posted by Kezarbred:
This Dude knocked out his own Brother-in-Law during a game ..... you don't think he's going to Ball-Out???

LOL.

Seems like most were shocked and dismayed at first, now most have gotten on board. There's been one good hire at least. This is the common reaction here and in general though. That thing called Hope kicks in. Some stay pessimistic. I'm staying somewhat neutral. I'm still a bit surprised. I'm more hopeful after a seemingly good hire with the VP of Player personnel.

It seems like other successful FO have a pecking order and ppl learn over time and rise through the ranks. Obviously we can look to Denver and hope for that model to work here, we still have to see if Denver is sustainable however. They have succeeded with great Fa signings. Hopefully we can draft and bring in more impact Niners like Cowboy was recently. Or Deion back in the day.

Hopefully Kyle can handle the load of being the HC, you would think he was groomed for it.

Originally posted by Kezarbred:

This Dude knocked out his own Brother-in-Law during a game ..... you don't think he's going to Ball-Out???

Who knows, but at least he will " sell out

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Interesting thing, tho, is Lynch has not been on the sidelines or doing other things...he has been looking at NFL and college from afar...in the broadcast booth or as commentator. So he has been actively engaged in "FOOTBALL" generically, whilst getting an overview of everything going on in NCAA and NFL . It seems like a really good place to be coming from, plus in broadcast, you are exposed to all the important people one would need to know in the GM position.

I was slow on the uptake, but am getting it now, and it is obvious, wiht Lynch's first hire that he is no shrinking violet. Tremendous personality, highly successful and TOUGH DB, with SB ring, who literally has done it all. With the 2-3 yrs of broadcast thrown in, it is seeming to be more and more a terrific hire. And each time i see another hire come in, there is just one less slice of the pie for paraag. Still don't know how he ends up in all this, but it sure would be nice if he did analytics...of anything HC, personnel chief, position coaches might want to know. I would hope he has information to give, but is not involved in any decision making. It is way past time for that to be left to football people...you know, the guys who don't wear green eyeshades. The guys who have actually played this game...or coached it...or been position coaches or scouts or whatever football. Analytics are there to help...not to make decisions. And paraag would do the 49ers some actual good if he stayed out of anything having to do with decisions and just produced information when asked.

Lynch by virtue of broadcast media, is well known, especially to players ...and that includes guys in FA. This yr instead of a bummed out QB dissing his team, or a GM who at best proabably had run his course, back to back HCs that were not drawing cards...instead, we have an extrovert, highly recognized guy, who KNOWS people(in the game), who has proven he is worth his salt, has been successful in essentially all he has done in football to the present, and has already started us off with a bang. There is no way Lynch's presence does NOT help us in FA, at the very least to make guys want to know what is going on here....is this still a clown operated make believe franchise, or have they now got real talent in the F.O?

Looking at the incoming HC, the new GM, head of player personnel...that question no longer need be asked. All that aside, you take one look at both HC/GM, and they look...well...like football is supposed to look. They do not look like Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, Rob Ryan, Wade Phillips...they look like football....the kind you want to be part of. And they definitely do not look like the accountant, paraag...and especially ,, thankfully, NOT JED. Face of the franchise has literally changed and damn near overnite. The real face of the team is BOTH Lynch and Kyle.Those two guys just strike me as a lot more "football" than seeing Trent and tomsul over on the sideline. Who could ever forget that? Or trent and chip. Ye gads, those were not the kinds of guys you wanted as the face of your team. Our new guys look like the fresh face of football...the winner's face. And throw in the $80 mil in cap (right now, maybe more), and we WILL be a magnet for FAs. Finallly. #2 pick overall doesn't hurt either. And with picks also at #34, 66, 98, plus another 4th rd, two 5ths....we may not be exactly in the cat bird's seat...but it is darn close.

Up next: DC.

Our HC and GM remind me a bit of snake-eaters....the go get 'em guys. Man i cannot wait for the first day of FA. Then we will see if jed & peeg are truly out of this. If so, this is going to be one glorious yr. Regardless of the W/L, we will finally have the right guys in charge and the watchers...well, on the sidelines. At least, i sure hope that is what has happened. Now if someone talks about maybe trading for garopp, well, maybe it will mean something. Before? Not so much. This is not an endorsement of trading for garopp. It is just a comment on the ongoing rebuilding....actually housecleaning....of those making decisions for the last 17 yrs. Do some analytics on how those cats(Jed and peeg) have done, and there would be no question how we have done under their stewardship. Basically, we just drifted...but backwards. But that has now changed. And great news would be no more meddling by guys who are not football guys.

This is a strong post.

I was initially disappointed, but the more I read and see and "hear" the more this hire is making sense and the more I am liking where this is headed. A few more good hires and this thing could really be legit and potentially something a lot more than I had expected when I thought worst we were going to get was McDonough or Paton.

I am leery. There's been bad decisions and ultimately Jed is responsible. We will see, but there's a part of me that wants to start drinking that coool aid and getting very excited.

Agreed great post there for sure! Can't wait to get coach in here & see what kind of players we can get in here also! Go 49ers!

Great post Doc. Imagine that. The Niners run by smart achievers again. I'm loving it.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

So with Mark Dominik (ex-GM) and Tom Gamble, how can't Lynch set up a draft again? And can you honestly tell me Lynch doesn't know about scouting players, inquire about trades, trade value, forming a prospect board and value, know how to conduct interviews (when he himself has been in them) or know how to properly structure a roster?

As for contracts, Paraag handles that, I'm sure he and Lynch would work together in negotiations with player contracts or did you think Baalke did that by himself?

Lynch will have a front office team to guide and advise. The main thing Lynch will be is the face of the business/media side of the 49ers not to mention one who will mesh with his head coach Kyle Shanahan.

He's not setting it up. If his jobs is to have everybody do the work, there's know point in making him the trigger man. If Dominik and Gamble are fighting for two different players that Lynch knows 0 about...how does that work out? Coin toss, arm wrestle? If his job is to pick players, right now we can probably say with certainty he is starting at the bottom with previous knowledge.

Yes I doubt he knows the in's and out's at the FO level. You know how I can say that? He's never done it or been a part of it. He has the same qualifications that Deion Sanders has. Actually Deion attends the combine and watches players so he might actually know more.

Public and media relations, aka the face of the franchise (the business side of it). I also find it funny how you think Lynch can't do this or that because he's never had a front office job. You pretty much disregarded all my post with our post above.

Neither you or I are in position to rightfully judge him on this job which you and I don't really know about in the first place. So like I've said earlier (in another post), get on board or get out, simple as that no sense cry about it. At least let the guy fail or succeed first.

Is he more qualified than any of the other people we interviewed? Every other person we interviewed has at some point been a part of what I listed. In some form or capacity they have seen and/or participated in the whole process.

We hired somebody to do PR and gave them the GM title and responsibility that comes with it?

You want an intelligent TV person that played the game. Hire Mike Mayock. He's at least competent in player evaluation and knows scouts, agents, and FO personnel around the league.

Is he more qualified than any of the other people we interviewed? Good question. We were talking to two Green Bay execs that have a lack of talent everywhere on that team except for Aaron Rodgers, Jordy Nelson, and Matthews. No thanks, they're lucky SOMEONE ELSE drafted them long ago. Then there's the guy from the Pats, and we know Bellichick is the one guy that makes those personnel decisions. And then the guy from the Cardinals, and that team suddenly is trending downward so maybe not a great choice. So considering what the alternatives were, I could live with this choice if I knew for sure that Lynch, as the "football guy", was higher in the pecking order than Paraag or Gamble.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
Nothing Colin Cowherd has ever said is worth listening to.

"This hire is like (fill in stupid analogy that doesn't really apply to the situation)".

Eh, if you know it's all hot air anyways it's not too bad.

In short, we're making a bold move but we're a bad franchise so it might blow up on us

Here's my guess as to what his take is gonna be:

"This hire is like when you ask your GIRLfriend to make some poTAto salad for a party, but she really just goes to the STORE to buy some. It still might be great, but ya PRObably should've made it yourself."

I should have a s**tty radio show...

I keep hearing all over the media how this move has really pissed off all the "credible" personnel people and any quality GM candidates who might have been more qualified and who worked for years to get their one shot at a dream like this. But just a few weeks ago the media was all too ready to point out that NOBODY with any credibility that had worked for an opportunity wanted anything to do with us and our circus and that we would have to take whatever we could get in San Francisco and be thankful for it.

And that what we lacked was any credible "football" guys. People with connections in the league and experience that commanded respect and could draw quality staff and players and that until we got that we were DOOMED!

So we went way outside the box and tried to get a football guy with credibility and connections-check. He wanted the job one else would touch with a ten foot pole=check. Would work with this new coach-check. Bringing in quality staff-check. Now Mr. Lynch please go get us the players and we will believe.

Originally posted by Ninersrisin:
I keep hearing all over the media how this move has really pissed off all the "credible" personnel people and any quality GM candidates who might have been more qualified and who worked for years to get their one shot at a dream like this. But just a few weeks ago the media was all too ready to point out that NOBODY with any credibility that had worked for an opportunity wanted anything to do with us and our circus and that we would have to take whatever we could get in San Francisco and be thankful for it.

And that what we lacked was any credible "football" guys. People with connections in the league and experience that commanded respect and could draw quality staff and players and that until we got that we were DOOMED!

So we went way outside the box and tried to get a football guy with credibility and connections-check. He wanted the job one else would touch with a ten foot pole=check. Would work with this new coach-check. Bringing in quality staff-check. Now Mr. Lynch please go get us the players and we will believe.

I haven't been reading or watching anything today, but if that's the attitude F THEM. You said it perfect - damned if you do, damned if you don't. F the establishment.
I know, I sound like Trump, but stuff like this is so stupid its just click bait.

#TakingDivisionBack #BookIt

Stop comparing this to Elway. John Elway owned An arena football team at one point. He had experience. John Lynch doesn't have any experience.

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
Stop comparing this to Elway. John Elway owned An arena football team at one point. He had experience. John Lynch doesn't have any experience.

So I guess he'll fail then right.

Whos the next personnel guy that gets hired?