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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
You're right, I was being too generous. Looking at their drafts from 2013-present, it's been a s**tshow.

Even more seems to reinforce that drafting is largely about luck as well as player development. I doubt that their scouts and GM suddenly just started to suck after all the success they had from 2010-2012, its just every time you choose a player, you roll the dice and more often than not, you crap out.
That is the key, and what has been missing with this franchise for years.

Bill Belichick just keeps bringing in all kinds of players and trains them up to the "New England" way. It is more than just Brady that keeps that machine rolling.
Bilecheat might be able to escape a few games without brady. but when Brady is gone for good. Pats are done

We may have to wait a few years to find out about that, but in the meantime, they continue to deny the naysayers about the rest of the team.
they were shut out at home with their future QB before brady came back.

I don't think there has been any real proof to show they can still do it. that 2008 season was long ago and that team was overall pretty damn good

All that is fun to talk about, however, the one truth is that BB has been successful in replacing pieces on an unprecedented scale due to the great staff he has mourned him. That is what we all hope Lynch and Shanahan will be able to do here.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Great coaching, great gameplanning and they tend to pick highly intelligent players to execute those gameplans with precision.


New England doesn't draft the biggest guys or the fastest guys, they put an emphasis on guys that are smart and hard working and give them a role to fulfill.

Yeah I agree, Wesley Welker isnt anywhere near what you would call a prototypical Wr. Yet look what he did with NE. Julian Edelman is another one. They do field very intelligent players and its evident every Sunday because on paper they aren't anything special.
Hopefully he spears Paraag within the year.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Well there's a chance it could hurt the franchises image in calling off the law suit, sending a message that any player can do as they please with the 49ers. On with the law suit, screw Aldon Smith. Shanahan's coaching and track record will speak for itself, not some dumb idiot that owes the team money C'mon now.

I would wager they've tried to get the money back privately but have been rebuffed. You don't go straight to lawsuit without having explored other avenues of settling the matter.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Milkechick

I like chickmilk better, lol.
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Casserly joined "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network on Tuesday to discuss the 49ers' hiring of Lynch. "First of all, I don't think there's any question San Francisco wants to win and they're desperate to win," Casserly said. "Number two, I don't know John Lynch, I've never interviewed John Lynch, so I can't have an opinion on John Lynch. But I'll say this, George Paton was staying at the end, the assistant general manager of Minnesota. He's extremely qualified, would have been an excellent choice. I would have taken George Paton in a minute. No question about him.

"The second thing is, how is this going to be successful? Lynch is going to have to figure out who his right-hand man is. Who's the guy that he's going to have to turn to, to give him advice on personnel decisions because he doesn't know the college draft and he really doesn't know the league? In television, you know the top of the league but you really don't know the bottom of the league and that's essential too. So, that person, whoever it is, he should be paid more than Lynch because that's going to be the most important guy in the organization over the next couple of years. Who's going to teach him to be a general manager? That's something that's important too.

"The other thing is that you're hiring a rookie head coach in Kyle Shanahan. I love Kyle Shanahan. I've known him for years. I think he's going to be a terrific head coach, but he's still a rookie. A veteran personnel guy who knows all the aspects of pro scouting, college scouting, the salary cap, how to build a team, the league rules – that's the kind of guy I would have wanted to match with Shanahan.

"One last thing – the draft. John Lynch doesn't know the first thing about the draft. He couldn't know about it. In the draft, it's history. You look at a player and then where would he fit into history? That's how you balance it. If you're just going to turn it over to the coaches – maybe yes, maybe no – it's worked in Atlanta because [head coach Dan] Quinn had a fantastic draft and he ran it this year, but it doesn't always work that way. So I wouldn't have done it. George Paton would have been the general manager of San Francisco if I was running it."

In Casserly's defense, his opinion on NFL Network was shared prior to the hiring of Denver Broncos director of college scouting Adam Peters to serve as the 49ers' vice president of player personnel. That was a big hire for the 49ers and Peters is a very respected talent evaluator.

The 49ers also plan to keep assistant general manager Tom Gamble through at least the draft, giving Gamble a chance to prove himself to Lynch. Gamble has been running the scouting department since the firing of former general manager Trent Baalke.

There has also been talk that former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik would join the 49ers front office in some capacity.

Casserly was the general manager of the Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as senior vice president and general manager for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006.

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103174-charlie-casserly-very-critical-john-lynch-hiring/#sthash.HFAilpqS.dpuf
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
His optimism and the desire to turn the organization around is a needed jolt to the moral. I think he's a very good personality fit with Kyle Shanahan seemingly more cerebral type.

You put the 2 together and you might get something cross between Mike Tomlin and Belichick

Milkechick

Shanahan is Michael Corleone, Lynch is his Al Neri
Originally posted by NCommand:
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Casserly joined "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network on Tuesday to discuss the 49ers' hiring of Lynch. "First of all, I don't think there's any question San Francisco wants to win and they're desperate to win," Casserly said. "Number two, I don't know John Lynch, I've never interviewed John Lynch, so I can't have an opinion on John Lynch. But I'll say this, George Paton was staying at the end, the assistant general manager of Minnesota. He's extremely qualified, would have been an excellent choice. I would have taken George Paton in a minute. No question about him.

"The second thing is, how is this going to be successful? Lynch is going to have to figure out who his right-hand man is. Who's the guy that he's going to have to turn to, to give him advice on personnel decisions because he doesn't know the college draft and he really doesn't know the league? In television, you know the top of the league but you really don't know the bottom of the league and that's essential too. So, that person, whoever it is, he should be paid more than Lynch because that's going to be the most important guy in the organization over the next couple of years. Who's going to teach him to be a general manager? That's something that's important too.

"The other thing is that you're hiring a rookie head coach in Kyle Shanahan. I love Kyle Shanahan. I've known him for years. I think he's going to be a terrific head coach, but he's still a rookie. A veteran personnel guy who knows all the aspects of pro scouting, college scouting, the salary cap, how to build a team, the league rules – that's the kind of guy I would have wanted to match with Shanahan.

"One last thing – the draft. John Lynch doesn't know the first thing about the draft. He couldn't know about it. In the draft, it's history. You look at a player and then where would he fit into history? That's how you balance it. If you're just going to turn it over to the coaches – maybe yes, maybe no – it's worked in Atlanta because [head coach Dan] Quinn had a fantastic draft and he ran it this year, but it doesn't always work that way. So I wouldn't have done it. George Paton would have been the general manager of San Francisco if I was running it."

In Casserly's defense, his opinion on NFL Network was shared prior to the hiring of Denver Broncos director of college scouting Adam Peters to serve as the 49ers' vice president of player personnel. That was a big hire for the 49ers and Peters is a very respected talent evaluator.

The 49ers also plan to keep assistant general manager Tom Gamble through at least the draft, giving Gamble a chance to prove himself to Lynch. Gamble has been running the scouting department since the firing of former general manager Trent Baalke.

There has also been talk that former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik would join the 49ers front office in some capacity.

Casserly was the general manager of the Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as senior vice president and general manager for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006.

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103174-charlie-casserly-very-critical-john-lynch-hiring/#sthash.HFAilpqS.dpuf

Who cares
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Who cares

Nobody...if it works out.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Casserly joined "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network on Tuesday to discuss the 49ers' hiring of Lynch. "First of all, I don't think there's any question San Francisco wants to win and they're desperate to win," Casserly said. "Number two, I don't know John Lynch, I've never interviewed John Lynch, so I can't have an opinion on John Lynch. But I'll say this, George Paton was staying at the end, the assistant general manager of Minnesota. He's extremely qualified, would have been an excellent choice. I would have taken George Paton in a minute. No question about him.

"The second thing is, how is this going to be successful? Lynch is going to have to figure out who his right-hand man is. Who's the guy that he's going to have to turn to, to give him advice on personnel decisions because he doesn't know the college draft and he really doesn't know the league? In television, you know the top of the league but you really don't know the bottom of the league and that's essential too. So, that person, whoever it is, he should be paid more than Lynch because that's going to be the most important guy in the organization over the next couple of years. Who's going to teach him to be a general manager? That's something that's important too.

"The other thing is that you're hiring a rookie head coach in Kyle Shanahan. I love Kyle Shanahan. I've known him for years. I think he's going to be a terrific head coach, but he's still a rookie. A veteran personnel guy who knows all the aspects of pro scouting, college scouting, the salary cap, how to build a team, the league rules – that's the kind of guy I would have wanted to match with Shanahan.

"One last thing – the draft. John Lynch doesn't know the first thing about the draft. He couldn't know about it. In the draft, it's history. You look at a player and then where would he fit into history? That's how you balance it. If you're just going to turn it over to the coaches – maybe yes, maybe no – it's worked in Atlanta because [head coach Dan] Quinn had a fantastic draft and he ran it this year, but it doesn't always work that way. So I wouldn't have done it. George Paton would have been the general manager of San Francisco if I was running it."

In Casserly's defense, his opinion on NFL Network was shared prior to the hiring of Denver Broncos director of college scouting Adam Peters to serve as the 49ers' vice president of player personnel. That was a big hire for the 49ers and Peters is a very respected talent evaluator.

The 49ers also plan to keep assistant general manager Tom Gamble through at least the draft, giving Gamble a chance to prove himself to Lynch. Gamble has been running the scouting department since the firing of former general manager Trent Baalke.

There has also been talk that former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik would join the 49ers front office in some capacity.

Casserly was the general manager of the Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as senior vice president and general manager for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006.

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103174-charlie-casserly-very-critical-john-lynch-hiring/#sthash.HFAilpqS.dpuf

I have concerns over trusting a guy who picked David Carr 1st overall
Originally posted by crabman82:
I have concerns over trusting a guy who picked David Carr 1st overall

Nothing wrong with picking David Carr #1. It was not doing more to build a better OL and preventing him from developing PTSD from having the holy hell beat out of him for his first few seasons that was the huge error.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 31, 2017 at 12:21 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Some legit concerns we all share...but it's already starting to take shape:

Charlie Casserly very critical of John Lynch hiring
January 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM • 0 comments
By Site Staff

Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

Those who actually know new general manager John Lynch have praised the hire by the San Francisco 49ers. Names like FOX insider Jay Glazer, NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, and former 49ers tight end Brent Jones have all supported and shown excitement about the hiring of Lynch. Those who do not know Lynch personally have been critical of the hire because of his lack of front office experience. Lynch was an NFL safety turned analyst for NFL games on FOX. You can add NFL Media's Charlie Casserly to Lynch's list of critics.

Casserly joined "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network on Tuesday to discuss the 49ers' hiring of Lynch. "First of all, I don't think there's any question San Francisco wants to win and they're desperate to win," Casserly said. "Number two, I don't know John Lynch, I've never interviewed John Lynch, so I can't have an opinion on John Lynch. But I'll say this, George Paton was staying at the end, the assistant general manager of Minnesota. He's extremely qualified, would have been an excellent choice. I would have taken George Paton in a minute. No question about him.

"The second thing is, how is this going to be successful? Lynch is going to have to figure out who his right-hand man is. Who's the guy that he's going to have to turn to, to give him advice on personnel decisions because he doesn't know the college draft and he really doesn't know the league? In television, you know the top of the league but you really don't know the bottom of the league and that's essential too. So, that person, whoever it is, he should be paid more than Lynch because that's going to be the most important guy in the organization over the next couple of years. Who's going to teach him to be a general manager? That's something that's important too.

"The other thing is that you're hiring a rookie head coach in Kyle Shanahan. I love Kyle Shanahan. I've known him for years. I think he's going to be a terrific head coach, but he's still a rookie. A veteran personnel guy who knows all the aspects of pro scouting, college scouting, the salary cap, how to build a team, the league rules – that's the kind of guy I would have wanted to match with Shanahan.

"One last thing – the draft. John Lynch doesn't know the first thing about the draft. He couldn't know about it. In the draft, it's history. You look at a player and then where would he fit into history? That's how you balance it. If you're just going to turn it over to the coaches – maybe yes, maybe no – it's worked in Atlanta because [head coach Dan] Quinn had a fantastic draft and he ran it this year, but it doesn't always work that way. So I wouldn't have done it. George Paton would have been the general manager of San Francisco if I was running it."

In Casserly's defense, his opinion on NFL Network was shared prior to the hiring of Denver Broncos director of college scouting Adam Peters to serve as the 49ers' vice president of player personnel. That was a big hire for the 49ers and Peters is a very respected talent evaluator.

The 49ers also plan to keep assistant general manager Tom Gamble through at least the draft, giving Gamble a chance to prove himself to Lynch. Gamble has been running the scouting department since the firing of former general manager Trent Baalke.

There has also been talk that former Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik would join the 49ers front office in some capacity.

Casserly was the general manager of the Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as senior vice president and general manager for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006.

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/103174-charlie-casserly-very-critical-john-lynch-hiring/#sthash.HFAilpqS.dpuf

He definitely seems like more of a President of Football Ops kind of guy, than a GM.

The comment about the personnel guy that should be paid more is valid.

The thing is though. Paton wouldn't have taken this job. There is no reputable GM out there that will concede control of the 53 man roster. Lynch was hired because they want Kyle and him to get along with no backstabbing politics, which is an okay reason. Maybe not the best football reason, but its there.
CJ Anderson on Adam Peters:

@cjandersonb22

2017-01-31 16:07 UTC

Thank you Adam Peters man your the reason why I am here
Originally posted by crabman82:
I have concerns over trusting a guy who picked David Carr 1st overall

It's not so much that he picked David Carr. For me, the fact that he seemingly did very little to protect his QB,
with a competent O-line speaks volumes. I still think DC, holds the record as the most sacked QB within the
first few years of his NFL career. IMO, this Howdy Doody looking Mo'Fo' can go HAN ...

[ Edited by FlayvaMeister on Jan 31, 2017 at 1:10 PM ]
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Originally posted by saniner:
CJ Anderson on Adam Peters:

@cjandersonb22

2017-01-31 16:07 UTC

Thank you Adam Peters man your the reason why I am here

On earth ?
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