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4ML · 2017-01-29T17:29:58-08:00

Lucked into Shanahan but Lynch as a GM? Wtf?? So many qualified GMs 49ers interviewed...and in the end - they decided to hire a guy who has ZERO experience working in a NFL Front Office. He has ZERO experience as a scout at any level. I understand, so many potential GM candidates rejected 49ers. But, to hire a guy who has never held a position that is in no way related to a day-2-day job profile of a GM is unbelievable. I'm sure Lynch is a smart guy...he was a smart player...but that has NOTHING to do with being a GM. Why take the risk at this time? --------------- edit: After having some time to digest this news...wish him all the best and I hope he proves ppl wrong. Still don't understand why we needed to take such a risk but it is what it is now. I do have to say - his first presser made a positive impression.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM

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KID9R
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Originally posted by Ryanoceros:

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
So if Jed were to go out and hire whomever you wanted as GM and he failed then what?

Not about who I wanted. It's about hiring someone with a legit resume, pedigree, and knowledge about the position. You know, what successful companies, teams, and franchises do. Yorks have tried this before with head coaches and it didn't work.

Didn't help Grigson he had the resume, pedigree, knowledge and failed horribly. Nothing is sure thing

That is terrible logic. That's like saying: "a guy jumps out of an airplane and dies because his parachute fails" So people shouldn't wear parachutes because it could fail.
Just because some GM's fail doesn't mean they shouldn't be as experienced as possible. If anything, it confirms how difficult the job can be even for candidates that have YEARS of scouting or coaching experience.
How many GMs have been successful starting with ZERO experience at the job?

and how many have failed that've had years of experience? Gotta see it both ways here...

LOL but if NO one has succeeded with zero experience and if only even 25% of properly experienced GMs succeed, which would you rather pick?

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Jan 30, 2017 at 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by KID9R:
That is terrible logic. That's like saying: "a guy jumps out of an airplane and dies because his parachute fails" So people shouldn't wear parachutes because it could fail.
Just because some GM's fail doesn't mean they shouldn't be as experienced as possible. If anything, it confirms how difficult the job can be even for candidates that have YEARS of scouting or coaching experience.
How many GMs have been successful starting with ZERO experience at the job?

And Elway had next to nothing but surrounded himself with great minds and is a winner...sure I'd like the most decorated GM to walk through the door and take s**t over but that's not happening, I'm simply saying there are no sure things. You can have all the tools to be a great GM (Grigson and Poli) and f**k it up.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:34 PM

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Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by Ryanoceros:

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
So if Jed were to go out and hire whomever you wanted as GM and he failed then what?

Not about who I wanted. It's about hiring someone with a legit resume, pedigree, and knowledge about the position. You know, what successful companies, teams, and franchises do. Yorks have tried this before with head coaches and it didn't work.

Didn't help Grigson he had the resume, pedigree, knowledge and failed horribly. Nothing is sure thing

That is terrible logic. That's like saying: "a guy jumps out of an airplane and dies because his parachute fails" So people shouldn't wear parachutes because it could fail.
Just because some GM's fail doesn't mean they shouldn't be as experienced as possible. If anything, it confirms how difficult the job can be even for candidates that have YEARS of scouting or coaching experience.
How many GMs have been successful starting with ZERO experience at the job?

and how many have failed that've had years of experience? Gotta see it both ways here...

LOL but if NO one has succeeded with zero experience and if only even 25% of properly experienced GMs succeed, which would you rather pick?

The guys we've interviewed had no GM experience. Sure they had front office experience, but that's still not a sure thing. You're just going to have to suck it up for however many years and see how this plays out like the rest of us. I think it'll work out, but that's just my gut feeling and nothing anybody says will change that.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:34 PM

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KID9R
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KID9R:
That is terrible logic. That's like saying: "a guy jumps out of an airplane and dies because his parachute fails" So people shouldn't wear parachutes because it could fail.
Just because some GM's fail doesn't mean they shouldn't be as experienced as possible. If anything, it confirms how difficult the job can be even for candidates that have YEARS of scouting or coaching experience.
How many GMs have been successful starting with ZERO experience at the job?

And Elway had next to nothing but surrounded himself with great minds and is a winner...sure I'd like the most decorated GM to walk through the door and take s**t over but that's not happening, I'm simply saying there are no sure things. You can have all the tools to be a great GM (Grigson and Poli) and f**k it up.

NEXT TO NOTHING? BS. He had way more experience than Lynch.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:35 PM

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Steve Smith Sr @89SteveSmith
Its funny we question the knowledge of a former player but we never question the knowledge of a non-player of anything good 4 u John

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:38 PM

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Ryanoceros
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Steve Smith Sr @89SteveSmith
Its funny we question the knowledge of a former player but we never question the knowledge of a non-player of anything good 4 u John

I like that. He's getting a lot of support from a lot of people around the league.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by KID9R:
NEXT TO NOTHING? BS. He had way more experience than Lynch.

Oh that's right he had experience in the AFL lol...that's like saying tomsula was prepared to be a head coach cause he was one in NFL Europe.

Elway isn't a scout and even stated it, but he's surround himself with great evaluators (one lynch is going after currently) and he's been able to bring in FA which is something lynch might actually be good at doing unlike baalke.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM

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49erKing
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lulz @ the forty whiners still whining about this move.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:42 PM

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Ryanoceros
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Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
lulz @ the forty whiners still whining about this move.

the guy is getting praised left and right, but lets listen to a bunch of people on a forum thinking they know best. lmao

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:42 PM

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Jim Trotter‏ @JimTrotter_NFL

I misspoke earlier. Lynch will have final say over the draft, free agency and 90-man roster. Shanahan will have final say on 53-man roster.

So he is the official triggerman

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:43 PM

#2711

Jcool
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Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
lulz @ the forty whiners still whining about this move.

Whining about the whiners?

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:43 PM

#2712

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Originally posted by Fatman49er:
Allow me to reiterate, because I have watched the following topic prodominantly at the top of the charts for the past 2 years at least.

Hate to break up the hate fest but there is something that Lynch represents that everyone was clamoring for 6 months ago and beyond. He is not about business, he is about players and winning. He initiated this process with KS and has now got the job. If nothing else, these two hires don't lend themselves to the corporate profit that has plagued the priorities of this franchise for years. This I am thankful for.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:44 PM

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I hope Lynch will stuff that nerd Paraag in his locker if he tries to butt in on football decisions.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:44 PM

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I was just listening to the radio in non-9erland and they made the comparison to Steve Kerr rather than Matt Millen.

Jan 30, 2017 at 6:46 PM

#2715

Jcool
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Originally posted by Jiks:
I was just listening to the radio in non-9erland and they made the comparison to Steve Kerr rather than Matt Millen.

Steve Kerr the GM lasted 3 years. Not sure that is any better of a comparison. Steve Kerr the coach really isn't comparable since Lynch is not coaching.