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beatintina49 · 2016-06-21T13:50:40-07:00

I think without question this is our biggest bright spot, 49.5 million in cap space... even more if we end up getting rid of kaep next year. That could fill some major holes in our team with top tier talent. I'm not looking for illegitimate championships, like the saints or broncos, we don't need to BUY our best player. I hope we use this money strictly for both o and d line with consistent, quality players. This season we will see how good our unproven talent is and make up for what is lacking in free agents. 2017 we should be back :-) please hold back your hate for me saying this season is doomed but it is. 7 wins at best. Hope I'm wrong but just don't like the schedule and our unproven young guys... yet.

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:49 PM

#736

susweel
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Originally posted by 49erphan:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

@GeorgeAtallah Could you please settle something for me, am I right in saying owners don't pocket any unused cap space, and it disappears

should asked the question if the the 89% was already met.

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:53 PM

#737

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

@GeorgeAtallah Could you please settle something for me, am I right in saying owners don't pocket any unused cap space, and it disappears

should asked the question if the the 89% was already met.

That unused 11% is the owners money and no one can touch it. There is no "disappearing" of any money. It is just forfeited towards the following year if that team does not formally claim it to roll over.

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:54 PM

#738

NYniner85
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Originally posted by 49erphan:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

Click on the link it's all there

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:54 PM

#739

susweel
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by 49erphan:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

@GeorgeAtallah Could you please settle something for me, am I right in saying owners don't pocket any unused cap space, and it disappears

should asked the question if the the 89% was already met.

That unused 11% is the owners money and no one can touch it. There is no "disappearing" of any money. It is just forfeited towards the following year if that team does not formally claim it to roll over.

Thats exactly what me, you and Matt Maiocco been saying this entire time.

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:55 PM

#740

susweel
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lolol these guys thought they won.

there's a reason I rock the gold.

Jul 22, 2016 at 4:57 PM

#741

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by susweel:
lolol these guys thought they won.

there's a reason I rock the gold.

The s**t is right in front of their eyes on the CBA. It's in freaking English too.

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:04 PM

#742

AB81Rules
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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Does that account for the 89% already spent ?

What does the 89% have to do with this? I gave you proof that it doesn't get pocketed by owners, you were wrong, as was Maiocco.

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:04 PM

#743

49AllTheTime
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So what do you guys don't understand that they don't pocket any of it ?

[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jul 22, 2016 at 5:05 PM ]

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:05 PM

#744

49erphan
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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by 49erphan:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

@GeorgeAtallah Could you please settle something for me, am I right in saying owners don't pocket any unused cap space, and it disappears

Thank you. I had a feeling that was the kind of question you asked.

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:06 PM

#745

mojave45
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Originally posted by susweel:
lolol these guys thought they won.

there's a reason I rock the gold.

Fools gold maybe.

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:06 PM

#746

AB81Rules
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Originally posted by 49erphan:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Would you mind relating what the question was that you asked him?

Sure, I asked this to George Atallah.

Jason Hurley ‏@Jay_AB81 Jul 21
@GeorgeAtallah Could you please settle something for me, am I right in saying owners don't pocket any unused cap space, and it disappears

And Atallah is Assistant Executive Director of External Affairs at the NFLPA, so he would know over Maiocco about this.

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:07 PM

#747

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Does that account for the 89% already spent ?

What does the 89% have to do with this? I gave you proof that it doesn't get pocketed by owners, you were wrong, as was Maiocco.

No you didn't. Everyone knows the 89% does not stay in their pockets after 4 years.

What do you think happens until then?

And what about the 11% unspent, you think that disappears too?

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:07 PM

#748

susweel
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Does that account for the 89% already spent ?

What does the 89% have to do with this? I gave you proof that it doesn't get pocketed by owners, you were wrong, as was Maiocco.

Lol do you not know what "min cash spend" means ?

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:08 PM

#749

mojave45
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here;s the proof Sus.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/756481110884904961

George AtallahVerified account‏@GeorgeAtallah

@Jay_AB81 Good morning. They do not pocket it, no. More complicated as there is a rollover mechanism, min cash spend, etc. Thanks for the Q

I asked George Atallah, who is employed by the NFLPA, and this was the answer above. And no he is not my source on that told me what I told you guys.

Does that account for the 89% already spent ?

What does the 89% have to do with this? I gave you proof that it doesn't get pocketed by owners, you were wrong, as was Maiocco.

No you didn't. Everyone knows the 89% does not stay in their pockets after 4 years.

What do you think happens until then?

And what about the 11% unspent, you think that disappears too?

Jul 22, 2016 at 5:14 PM

#750

AB81Rules
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I guess I can;t reason with you guys then, I gave proof, from one of the heads of the NFLPA, he clearly states unused cap room is not pocketed, if the 89% cash spending limit mattered then why would Jacksonville and Oakland keep rolling over $20-$30 million a year? They would just pocket it then right? Nope, because they can't. There done, if you don't believe me then fine, but Sus, and Maiocco are wrong.