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  • susweel
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would hire proven person who has done it before and if he fails you release him and then try the young guys. A proven player is a commodity that other teams will be interested in so you have act aggressively, if of course winning games is the goal.
a older guy would just retard the younger guys in my opinion. i would never knee jerk and give up a pick for a guy when you do not know if you need him.. i can just see us doing what you want and then when one of the younger guys steps up. people will b***h cuz trent wasted a draft pick on a old man i would much rather give the kids a shot before i bring in a old vet. you have to display faith in your own players for goodness sake

Would you take Tom Brady right now or let Driskel and Thad compete it out ?
lol. we are not the pats and its not the same thing.. if this were 2011 or 2012 we would be set with gin but you have to get used to it. that was then.. this is now

How about Antonio Brown or let Smelter and dres compete it out ?
Originally posted by susweel:
I would hire proven person who has done it before and if he fails you release him and then try the young guys. A proven player is a commodity that other teams will be interested in so you have act aggressively, if of course winning games is the goal.

If he gets cut bring him in...his cap hit is $4.5 million which is a ton for a 32 COP back and PR IMO (plus giving up a draft pick for most likely a one yr player).
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would hire proven person who has done it before and if he fails you release him and then try the young guys. A proven player is a commodity that other teams will be interested in so you have act aggressively, if of course winning games is the goal.

If he gets cut bring him in...his cap hit is $4.5 million which is a ton for a 32 COP back and PR IMO (plus giving up a draft pick for most likely a one yr player).

4.5 aint s**t when you 60 in cap space.
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I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.
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Originally posted by susweel:
How about Antonio Brown or let Smelter and dres compete it out ?

smelter is back there in the mix today according to reports .. my hope he takes that job and is also a fine wide out for us. like i said we just do not know and today is the start
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would hire proven person who has done it before and if he fails you release him and then try the young guys. A proven player is a commodity that other teams will be interested in so you have act aggressively, if of course winning games is the goal.

If he gets cut bring him in...his cap hit is $4.5 million which is a ton for a 32 COP back and PR IMO (plus giving up a draft pick for most likely a one yr player).

4.5 aint s**t when you 60 in cap space.
i do not care how much money you have.. you do not throw it around like xmas candy making foolish decisions and losing money for no reason. that is bad business
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Antix:
Originally posted by GNS1310:
Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows 2m2 minutes ago
Kelly said Ellington, White, Smelter, DuJuan Harris and Bryce Treggs are working on punt returns in OTAs.

Ellington sucks we know that and I dont know if Smelter or Harris has even done it before. WhoTF is Treggs?

We going for the single season fair catch record.

Ellington with 7th in the league in yards last year

We need a PR not a KR IMO.

Easy to be top10 in kickoff return yards when the defense gives up TDs and FGs like a bottom 5 defense.

He was 9th in avg return yards not the best in the league not the worst by any means.
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Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

yes. i think as some have said.. we are ok there. could use a back up in that spot but not a glaring need in my opinion
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would hire proven person who has done it before and if he fails you release him and then try the young guys. A proven player is a commodity that other teams will be interested in so you have act aggressively, if of course winning games is the goal.

If he gets cut bring him in...his cap hit is $4.5 million which is a ton for a 32 COP back and PR IMO (plus giving up a draft pick for most likely a one yr player).

4.5 aint s**t when you 60 in cap space.

True but it's actually a lot to pay a old ass running back and giving up a draft pick for a one year guy doesn't follow with the theme of bringing in youth....wouldn't hate it but I don't see it happen unless he's cut.
Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

Right 7th in yards 9th in avg really not that bad
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

Right 7th in yards 9th in avg really not that bad

On PRs, Ellington seems to have good ball security, which is what I put most emphasis on. I think he had one muff last season. I'd rather have the sure handed guy that might fair catch too often, over the guy that will occasionally muff/fumble and occasionally make a nice return.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

Right 7th in yards 9th in avg really not that bad

On PRs, Ellington seems to have good ball security, which is what I put most emphasis on. I think he had one muff last season. I'd rather have the sure handed guy that might fair catch too often, over the guy that will occasionally muff/fumble and occasionally make a nice return.

His problem is he always has these nagging injuries.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

Right 7th in yards 9th in avg really not that bad

On PRs, Ellington seems to have good ball security, which is what I put most emphasis on. I think he had one muff last season. I'd rather have the sure handed guy that might fair catch too often, over the guy that will occasionally muff/fumble and occasionally make a nice return.

His problem is he always has these nagging injuries.

And weren't there reports he is out of shape in the past? Anyway, if the defense forces punts I'll be happy. Any punt return yardage is the cherry on top of the gravy.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
I looked up average per return and Ellington is 9th in the league (kickoff return). That's not bad.

Right 7th in yards 9th in avg really not that bad

On PRs, Ellington seems to have good ball security, which is what I put most emphasis on. I think he had one muff last season. I'd rather have the sure handed guy that might fair catch too often, over the guy that will occasionally muff/fumble and occasionally make a nice return.

His problem is he always has these nagging injuries.

And weren't there reports he is out of shape in the past? Anyway, if the defense forces punts I'll be happy. Any punt return yardage is the cherry on top of the gravy.

Yah as long as they dont fumble I consider it a win.
When asked about the skill sets of his players, Kelly stated that they just want talented players. "Our job as coaches is to maximize their strengths and put them in the best position to make plays," said Kelly.

The competition for returners on special teams will include WR Bruce Ellington, WR DeAndrew White, WR DeAndre Smelter, RB DuJuan Harris, and WR Bryce Treggs.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/94305-chip-kelly-competition-ill-let-happen-organically/#sthash.G7efbP3i.dpuf

Interesting tidbit.
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