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Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
BTW Have you guys seen the mini camp pictures of Tank Carradane? He actually looks like a real OLB. Looking Trim and looking good, cant wait. I wonder if they may be thinking of doing that with Ronald Blair. Ronald don't have the size for a D-line but if he trims down like Tank, oh snap we got something special. Then, we can finally get rid of Brooks.

Yeah i did see Tank. He looks lean AF. Harold looks bigger than him now haha. If those 2 guys show up, our defense can be scary good

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Tank will suck. Harold is our only hope.
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
Originally posted by Evilgenius:
Tartt is going to play in the middle plenty IMO.


I wouldn't mind seeing that, kind of like Arizona got going. I think Tartt needs to put on more weight, if he's to play any LB. Just my opinion.

did anyone see the muscle that Buchanan put on? He put on like 20 lbs. That guy is going to be beast. Would mind seeing Tartt take the same route

I've posted about wanting to see Tartt play LB, but it's only in a nickel role. I don't expect him to pack on 20 pounds and start ramming his head into Guards, trying to be a run stuffer. Just play passing downs where he is asked to matchup against TEs. The thought is he's more athletic than a typical 3-4 ILB (Hodges, Skov) so that would make him a better pass defender.
I think Baalke could have gone with Joshua Perry as an ILB in the 3rd or traded down a little still got Perry and picked up another 4th. As far as a running back Devonte Booker was there with our 4th at 133. Cornerbacks Maurice Canady at 207 and Kevon Seymour 213 were still in our wheelhouse and better talent IMO.


Buckner
Garnett
Perry
Booker

Oh, the 1st four picks look better to me and he could have picked Charone Peake in the 6th as well, but I am not a GM

With how big our defensive front is now, could we possibly see Tartt playing a lot more?
Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
I wouldn't mind seeing that, kind of like Arizona got going. I think Tartt needs to put on more weight, if he's to play any LB. Just my opinion.

No running downs really. More an upgraded nickel lb. We have the size up front to protect him though as well if teams try to take advantage.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by 4ML:
I kind of agree. Didn't understand round 3 or round 4 picks on CBs who have started very few games in college. Just didn't make sense for our team. When talkin' about Buckner - Baalke talked about number of snaps and games played by him over his career at Oregon as a huge plus...and then goes on to draft guys who have hardly played more than a handful of games. Makes little sense.

Still don't think there is a clear draft strategy. I liked the first round picks and I liked couple of late round picks...but don't understand the strategy.

yeh this++. Baalke is a dumpster diver. That how he shows the world how good he is.

Nobody can figure out the CB overload when we are desperately trying to build a smashmouth d.

The mentality about ilb needs to be that there are 4-5 starters in every class and we have to go find them. happened last year. Will happen this year.

Plentry of guys available instead of redmond. we just didn't prioritize.

The tartt experiment will last about as long as the first time he gets trucked by a pro guard.

Well, spend less time whining and more time reading:

"Well, you can never have enough cover guys. As we know, in this game, 67-percent of what you do in this league is nickel and dime." ~ Baalke

Do you envision S Jaquiski Tartt playing some linebacker this year or are you in the market for a player at that position?

"But, I think they visualize that ability, especially in our dime for him to slide down and be in a position where a lot of times you're using a linebacker. I think that would be the game plan, but the coaches can help you with that." ~ Baalke



Guys that are hypersensitive to the ILB position don't understand the schemes. This is a passing league. The "defensive FB" has become, like the wide-bodied NT, a 2-down player only. Hodges will be used to free up Bowman on 1st and 2nd downs as the thumper and on 3rd downs or whenever we go nickel and dime, he will leave the field and all these DB's will come in...including Tartt for either Bowman or Hodges (more likely).

Now, we're still "thin" there as I'm not feeling too good about their backups in Wilhoite and Skov.

These are some good points but I think it is important to re-emphasize how bad we were at run defense last year.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense
We were 7th in the league in 2014 and 2nd in rushing TD's allowed
We were 29th in the league in 2015 and literally last in TD's allowed


While you can make the argument that our scheme another great ILB isn't needed I think the stats are pretty glaring that our whole front 7 needs a huge boost as far as stopping the run especially stopping rushing TD's.

I don't think anyone believes Tartt will fix this.

Really think about this don't just defend your position, I can see the Tartt might be a better option on 2/3rds of the snaps. But how can that fix the worst rushing defense as far as TD's in the NFL.
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Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
BTW Have you guys seen the mini camp pictures of Tank Carradane? He actually looks like a real OLB. Looking Trim and looking good, cant wait. I wonder if they may be thinking of doing that with Ronald Blair. Ronald don't have the size for a D-line but if he trims down like Tank, oh snap we got something special. Then, we can finally get rid of Brooks.

I caughtthat, Tank is looking much leaner and quicker. That's an interesting call on Blair, the guy is very strong and quick at 284lbs, he'd play very fast at 265-270lbs.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Tank will suck. Harold is our only hope.

You don't know that. We have never seen him play at this weight before as a Niner
I know hes 32 this year but paul posluzski should be available from jags somehow, telvin and jack push him out of a job
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Tank will suck. Harold is our only hope.

You don't know that. We have never seen him play at this weight before as a Niner

Yup, coming outta college thats what he was supposed to be, but balkee or Tomsula decided to turn him fat and slower so he can be a DE. Now he's probably regained speed enough to crush his opponents
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Lets give Hodges a chance for a year. He flashed at times when given the chance.

I think he's getting really overlooked. I don't know what people expected from a midseason acquisition coming into Mangina's overly complicated scheme. It's not surprising that he would look a step slow. I could see him taking over the 3rd down coverage backer role since it's still unknown whether Bo will ever be himself again.
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
BTW Have you guys seen the mini camp pictures of Tank Carradane? He actually looks like a real OLB. Looking Trim and looking good, cant wait. I wonder if they may be thinking of doing that with Ronald Blair. Ronald don't have the size for a D-line but if he trims down like Tank, oh snap we got something special. Then, we can finally get rid of Brooks.

Yeah i did see Tank. He looks lean AF. Harold looks bigger than him now haha. If those 2 guys show up, our defense can be scary good
TRUE, maybe that's why no OLB's drafted ???
Originally posted by Evilgenius:
Originally posted by WoWwarkaster:
I wouldn't mind seeing that, kind of like Arizona got going. I think Tartt needs to put on more weight, if he's to play any LB. Just my opinion.

No running downs really. More an upgraded nickel lb. We have the size up front to protect him though as well if teams try to take advantage.

He's a "pro-Rover', or Roverback, same position I played...
Originally posted by Matchuu84:
I know hes 32 this year but paul posluzski should be available from jags somehow, telvin and jack push him out of a job

Be nice to have him for a look-see
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