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Your guess about whether or not Kap will be on 49ers team this year (2016 season).
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:07 AM
- qnnhan7
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Hue Jackson has a chance to make amends for losing Kaep in the 2011 draft. Step up Mr. Jackson.
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:15 AM
- Chico
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i doubt he's on the team but just wondering who will pick him up or trade for him
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:17 AM
- 49erphan
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I was just curious about how many people think Kap is or isn't going to be on the team next year. I suppose there are people who just can't not talk about why they think Kap should or shouldn't be on the 9er team this year (rather than simply whether or not their hunch is that he will or will not be); if so, that is unfortunate since that topic has been discussed to death in the Kap thread and I can't imagine that anything new would come out of such a discussion in this thread. But If that is what it devolves into I have no problem with the moderators locking this thread.
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:18 AM
- ninerfan4life
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I will be confident with what ever decision they make cuz Chip knows offense
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:29 AM
- BOI49er
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Originally posted by BobS:I voted yes and no one wants him gone more than me. I think because of all the surgeries and the recovery timelines being close to ending when his contract is guaranteed he won't be deemed healthy before April 1st and the 49ers are stuck with him. His health plays a big factor in what happens to him, it definitely seems obvious he probably won't be healthy when the league year starts March 9th or whenever it is. No matter what his character is, his value is now way less than the amount of his contract. How many people would work hard to make a deadline to lose millions? If he is cut no one would pay him $12 mil or whatever his contract is worth. Bottom level starter pay is $3-$5 mil and that is where he performed last year.
They can subsidise a trade by picking up part of that $12m the first year. Kaepernick get's his contracted money, we save a good chunk of his injury pay, and the new team gets a cheap one year try-out. This is what I expect.
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM
- RishikeshA
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Kap has not shown a mature approach to being a person in the spotlight. His early interviews consisted of one word answers with head headphones draped around his neck. He does not have the field vision or awareness in the pocket to run a quick decision offense that Chip runs. His sideline throws are 50-50 completion-interception ratio. Kap has regressed every year. Many of us have followed the Niners for years, Y.A. Brodie, Joe, Steve and Garcia have shown us what to look for in a QB, I don't see it in Kap.
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:37 AM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by BobS:
I voted yes and no one wants him gone more than me. I think because of all the surgeries and the recovery timelines being close to ending when his contract is guaranteed he won't be deemed healthy before April 1st and the 49ers are stuck with him. His health plays a big factor in what happens to him, it definitely seems obvious he probably won't be healthy when the league year starts March 9th or whenever it is. No matter what his character is, his value is now way less than the amount of his contract. How many people would work hard to make a deadline to lose millions? If he is cut no one would pay him $12 mil or whatever his contract is worth. Bottom level starter pay is $3-$5 mil and that is where he performed last year.
They can subsidise a trade by picking up part of that $12m the first year. Kaepernick get's his contracted money, we save a good chunk of his injury pay, and the new team gets a cheap one year try-out. This is what I expect.
This is the best scenario for all parties involved.
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM
- MikeD
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I think he'll be here and given a chance to compete for the starting job. Its kind of hard to judge him with the coaching staff we had last year
Feb 22, 2016 at 9:41 AM
- Virginia9ers
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I'm thinking 12M isn't that much to gamble on whether you have a franchise quarterback or not, plus coming off an injury they will have to pay him anyway. See if Chip can coach him up or if check down Charlie is the Niners future QB. I still would like a early pick such as Goff, I'm sure either Gabby or Kap could be solid trade bait if needed. Chips offense needs a good QB with a good backup. I'm giving the team a Mulligan for last year, still pissed but after being a born Niner fan since 1957, I given them Mulligans for many past mistakes (OJ, Joe Thomas, Erickson, Nolan II, Sing but I'll never will forgive the Yorks) to name a few.
From a Kezar former ticket holder . . . Go Niners.
From a Kezar former ticket holder . . . Go Niners.
Feb 22, 2016 at 10:00 AM
- JR80Forever
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Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
I know that's a possibility , but we shouldn't release him without getting adequate compensation , I'll bet teams are waiting for us to release him , but we should hang on to him until a team is desperate for QB help, and makes us a solid offer.
having him around regardless should be considered , we have a coach who's system would greatly benefit Kap , and its a real possibility this is the offense to bring Kap back from the dead , relying on his speed, and a spread attack that will give him more room to make quick decisions , and hit those speedy weapons with those short quick passes , and use his running ability to make plays, could be really difficult for opposing teams to deal with ...he could potentially rush for 600 yards for the season in this scheme ...and we know this system wont force Kap to be a pocket passer and rely on timing and accuracy , this system will get everyone involved and force the defense to defend the entire the field, instead of loading up the box and focusing on Jamming our run game , and forcing Kap to beat them by being a pocket passer
The problem with this thinking is #1 money and #2 holding onto a player with a bad attitude. If Kap wants out then something needs to give BEFORE April 1st. If you can't trade him, you release him. I'd rather have 12 Million OFF the books and no compensation then a disgruntled player making 12 Million.
Feb 22, 2016 at 10:01 AM
- DaDivaRecieva15
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Yup he gone
Feb 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM
- duhandorhello
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After watching this video I don't think Kap has what it takes to thrive in Kelly's offense. As a passer he can't make more than one read and he's not accurate. These are two things that Kap can't just spend a summer learning and mastering. It takes years and years to develop and own these skills. Harbaugh took advantage of Kap's skill set with a team that was ready to win now while the rest of the league played catch up on how to defend this one trick pony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4k5L-04LSU
Kelly should draft his guy and develop him. Something he's never done on the pro level. That way there's no excuses for Kelly if it doesn't pan out. I don't want Kelly keeping Kap and us not drafting a QB this year. Then say it doesn't work out with Kap. Then Kelly drafts a QB the following year or two later which buys him more time as coach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4k5L-04LSU
Kelly should draft his guy and develop him. Something he's never done on the pro level. That way there's no excuses for Kelly if it doesn't pan out. I don't want Kelly keeping Kap and us not drafting a QB this year. Then say it doesn't work out with Kap. Then Kelly drafts a QB the following year or two later which buys him more time as coach.
[ Edited by duhandorhello on Feb 22, 2016 at 10:39 AM ]
Feb 22, 2016 at 11:26 AM
- 4everFaithful
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If chip comes here and doesnt even give kap a shot, ill be pissed
Feb 22, 2016 at 11:29 AM
- TonyStarks
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I still am a huge Kaep fan, but if he doesn't want to /can't run as fast and scramble anymore, he's pretty much just a qb with a ''peaked'' skill set.
I hope I'm wrong. One of my fav qbs' ever but that swag and killer instinct seems forever gone. I don't know if it was the broad or what. but this is the same guy that taunted Cam Newton , did the swag Kaepernick bicep kiss that drove bros across the world apey, and could outrun any defense.
He's throwing sizzrup type interceptions and getting shoetackled by DE's in 2015. WTF. Kaep.
I hope I'm wrong. One of my fav qbs' ever but that swag and killer instinct seems forever gone. I don't know if it was the broad or what. but this is the same guy that taunted Cam Newton , did the swag Kaepernick bicep kiss that drove bros across the world apey, and could outrun any defense.
He's throwing sizzrup type interceptions and getting shoetackled by DE's in 2015. WTF. Kaep.
Feb 22, 2016 at 11:31 AM
- 9moon
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he should no longer be.. wasting our time.. PLUS, he's a Dolphin fan..