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Game #10 The Good, Bad, Ugly

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Good: Gabbert is playing way batter that I inicially thought

Bad:Lack of agressiveness specially on tackling.

Ugly: Run defense.It was disgusting
How do you keep a red hot RB to 12 yds against Atlanta, and then gave up 200yds backup RB with 2 weeks to prepare. Disgusting is right.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
* We have only three good or decent OL between Staley/Boone/Tiller. Martin and Pears can't block.

* Draughn is filling in admirably, but he's no Hyde.

* Defense giving up 200+ to any RB is inexcusable. Rawls is a talented player, a diamond in the rough, won't take that away from him, but we looked weak.

* Acker and Brock looked so bad. Rusty. Poor position, horrendous tackling. The speed and physicality of Cromartie and Johnson I think helped our defense play much better. It's hard to use such a small sample size to draw conclusions, but I'm willing to bet we could have better results if we had the latter two start with Brock/Acker/Ward rotating and playing the slot (Brock/Ward that is).

* Brooks is slightly above average at best, but he's all we've got. Eli Harold was getting chances today, but still is a one-trick pony. Lemonier? .... lol. The pick wasn't a bad pick when we took him, he just didn't pan out. We badly need to get pass-rush help for next season. If we have any chance to land a top rusher in FA, we do it. If we can get a top notch DL, we should do that too.

Good post.

Johnson & Cromartie are palying well. Brock - not so good.
While it's easy to see the glaring problems that the defense had, the offense had it's issues as well with their 3rd down efficiency.

2 for 11 .... Something like 18%? It could have been a closer game had they made more of those.

You might also say that if the 49er's converted more of those, the defense would have had time to rest. Bottom line, you can't pin it all on the defense.

Next up ... Arizona! At least they're playing at home which in my opinion could be a trap game for Arizona.
[ Edited by Kauaiguy on Nov 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM ]
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sounds like vance is the least of our worries. its on the coaches, what a disgrace to have the team come out sleep walking after a bye. its just like the days of yore, when the coaches never could get our team ready to play on the road.. I bet we do not win a road game all year. do we have bad players on defense? I do not know,, i know that i f**king hate mangini, hated him last year, hate him worse this year. sloppy tackling and we are supposed to have good teachers. i did not watch the game but it sounds like again, the coaches coached scared and if true,, every f**king one of them needs to go. sounds like the offensive line was offensive as usual but is anyone really shocked? the coaches are more than ok with letting it ride for the rest of the year so f**k it... it does not bother them so why should it bother me, and of course the gutless media has no balls to ask tough questions
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cc forgot to say gabbert is the least of our worries but sounds like vance did well , as well
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Originally posted by JoeBart324:
I was pretty happy with the overall offensive effort. Gabbert again looked solid and decisive. He had some very good throws, a few questionable ones, but by and large was sharp. 250 yards and 2 TDs at Seattle is something we haven't seen from a Niners QB in a while.

The defense was horrifying. Coverage breakdowns coupled with extremely poor tackling means a big offensive day for an otherwise pedestrian offense. The Seahawks are not a 500+ yards a game type of offense. And it looked easy today. Rawls is going to be a great back, but no player puts up 200+ on the ground without an assist from the defense. Hats off to Rawls in any case.

Agreed on Pears. It's time to go to the next guy. But more concerning to me, why was Devey out there to start the game? It's pretty clear the Devey/Pears pairing has nothing going for it, why did the coaching staff go back to it? That's extremely alarming and shows complete incompetence by the coaching staff.

after all this time and no changes, it is clear the coaches are either unable or unwilling to do anything about this. you start by firing the o line coach,, oh f**k , never mind,, i am done being angry about this and I have just resigned myself to the fact,, this is the way it will be for the rest of the year,, no one is being held accountable here
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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Dingo:
Good - BG and the offensive effort for most of their limited possession.
Bad - More crappy, cowardly play calls with nothing to lose.
Ugly - Tackling technique (agree with auviper, an area NFL, if it weren't so insular, could learn from NRL where tackling happens every 10 seconds for 80 minutes. AFL is a different technique- not so much about preventing yardage but preventing disposal of the ball.) Pears, sick of watching him being spun around.

no excuse for not starting Hodges over Wilhoite now

there are no excuses for alot of things in my opinion,, this being one of them
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
I was pretty happy with the overall offensive effort. Gabbert again looked solid and decisive. He had some very good throws, a few questionable ones, but by and large was sharp. 250 yards and 2 TDs at Seattle is something we haven't seen from a Niners QB in a while.

Actually just 1 TD. Nevertheless, Gabbert looked decent; I was particularly impressed with his scrambling ability.
[ Edited by stimpy on Nov 23, 2015 at 12:09 PM ]
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
How do you keep a red hot RB to 12 yds against Atlanta, and then gave up 200yds backup RB with 2 weeks to prepare. Disgusting is right.
I was wondering the same
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
I was pretty happy with the overall offensive effort. Gabbert again looked solid and decisive. He had some very good throws, a few questionable ones, but by and large was sharp. 250 yards and 2 TDs at Seattle is something we haven't seen from a Niners QB in a while.

The defense was horrifying. Coverage breakdowns coupled with extremely poor tackling means a big offensive day for an otherwise pedestrian offense. The Seahawks are not a 500+ yards a game type of offense. And it looked easy today. Rawls is going to be a great back, but no player puts up 200+ on the ground without an assist from the defense. Hats off to Rawls in any case.

Agreed on Pears. It's time to go to the next guy. But more concerning to me, why was Devey out there to start the game? It's pretty clear the Devey/Pears pairing has nothing going for it, why did the coaching staff go back to it? That's extremely alarming and shows complete incompetence by the coaching staff.

after all this time and no changes, it is clear the coaches are either unable or unwilling to do anything about this. you start by firing the o line coach,, oh f**k , never mind,, i am done being angry about this and I have just resigned myself to the fact,, this is the way it will be for the rest of the year,, no one is being held accountable here

Agree cc

I'm getting depressed just thinking JT will be back!
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Originally posted by stimpy:
Actually just 1 TD. Nevertheless, Gabbert looked decent; I was particularly impressed with his scrambling ability.
decent? Given this is his 2nd game in like over two years playing one of the top passing defenses, I think he would of been a lot better if given more play time.
Good
- Gabbert continues to play well. Comfortable with the offense and made plays under pressure.
- Draughn is a good versatile back. Grinded out some tough yards, good receiver.
- Vance probably had his best game. Finally got that 1st TD

Bad
- Offensive line. I expected that given their overall performance this year, and playing @SEA is tough. Martin continues to get pushed back and Pears vs. Avril was laughable.

Ugly
- Run defense. Don't know what happened here, this was the strongest area of the defense heading into the game. Performed very well against ATL, complete opposite yesterday. Very poor tackling and SEA dominated the LOS. Rawls is a special player too, he reminds me Maurice Jones-Drew.
Originally posted by MikeD:
decent? Given this is his 2nd game in like over two years playing one of the top passing defenses, I think he would of been a lot better if given more play time.

Yup decent; Marvin49's week 11 recap sums it up pretty well. I don't disagree with you that with more time/experience, he could be a lot better.
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Originally posted by wailers15:
UGLY: Torrey Smith

How much he is on per year?
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