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PatrickWillisHOF · 2015-10-27T16:23:16-07:00

Staley and Vernon got into it because Vernon was faking his knee injury, just like many of us thought. The first instance occurred on the Tuesday following the Week 4 loss to the Packers. The conflict apparently stemmed from Staley's doubts regarding the severity of Davis' knee injury, which he sustained in the Week 3 loss to the Cardinals. According to the source, on the day after the Packers loss, Davis was told by a trainer that there was nothing wrong with his knee. Staley called Davis out on this the next day and they exchanged words over it. Davis didn't play in either of the 49ers' Week 4 and 5 losses to the Packers and Giants. The next altercation occurred in the locker room following last Thursday's loss to the Seahawks. While the details of this skirmish are unclear, a source told me that this was where the players were arguing over Kaepernick. The source couldn't clarify what was said, but told me that it was Davis who spoke out against Kaepernick, and it was Staley who defended his quarterback.

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:10 PM

#91

Pollyanna
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Pollyanna:
Staley obviously is a favorite, always has been and he's fat and happy while the rest of the performers have to fight for scraps. After the impact Vernon had in 2013, he has to watch some outside WR that had a down year come in and get $6.5 million just handed to him. Alot mote than he was getting. Vernon was a changed man and had been a team leader.

Staley was absurdly underpaid as an elite LT for the longest time, Vernon has always been one of the highest paid TE's in the NFL, there is absolutely no comparison. Vernon basically quit on the team once his player stock deal got going.

That is true he quit at the same time Johnson was handed $6.5 million after VD had carried the team the year before with 13 TDs.

[ Edited by Pollyanna on Oct 27, 2015 at 9:21 PM ]

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM

#92

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Originally posted by monsterzero789:
forgot about Sings comments about rats lol

Classic Sing lol.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/16/mike-singletary-smells-a-rat/

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM

#93

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Niners99:
What brand though? Who was even buying Vernon Davis stock when he was good? He basically had 2 huge seasons, and 2 decent seasons, and was mediocre to garbage the rest of his career. He is WAY less important than he thinks. Guys like LeBron James, Mike Trout, and Aaron Rodgers should sell personal stock. Not Vernon Davis.

You can basically backdate to where he started to look craptastic to the time all this player stock nonsense started. Vernon started getting high on his own supply and his game went off a cliff. And he's still never gotten rid of that stupid bunny hop which gives defenders additional time to close in on him.

Even coming out of college he was ALL athleticism. He was a big, strong, fast dude playing TE to create a mismatch. Now, hes old, and lost his advantage. He cant catch, he cant run clean routes, and hes afraid of contact. Hes one of the softest NFL players I can remember. Never once saw him go up and contend for a ball with a defender, or once saw him dive for a pass. He catches the ball like hes holding a laundry basket down at torso level.

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM

#94

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Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
forgot about Sings comments about rats lol

Classic Sing lol.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/16/mike-singletary-smells-a-rat/

Hahah that was so sad.

I thought we were done hiring comic relief.

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:33 PM

#95

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Originally posted by 9er4lyphe:
Our team is a soap opera which will be featured on next year's Hard Knocks.

LMFAO Can you imagine all the asinine things Jed would say on an hourly basis with a camera in his face? Aye carumba.......

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:48 PM

#96

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YEah, ESPN chompin at the bits to get us on hard knocks.

Imagine all the crazy stuff tomsula says.

Oct 27, 2015 at 9:53 PM

#97

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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
LMFAO Can you imagine all the asinine things Jed would say on an hourly basis with a camera in his face? Aye carumba.......

He'd be on vacation the whole time they were filming.

Oct 27, 2015 at 10:47 PM

#98

midrdan
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Davis is gone. This "leak" is the basis. He will either be traded or released

Oct 27, 2015 at 11:12 PM

#99

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Cant believe its Davis callin people out...but on the hand its not too surprising and fiys what I thought of Davis. His play goes to s**t and he blames someone else. The whole offense is a POS so I guesshe just went afterbthe guy everybody else is blaming.

Our entire orgnization is a friggin joke.

Oct 28, 2015 at 2:08 AM

#100

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The Warriors had a plan to replace Mark Jackson and didn't get rid of him until they had a plan to replace him. I don't believe the 49ers had any plan at all for moving on from Harbaugh.

Agreed, and I really believe if they didn't have a plan to get a clear upgrade in Kerr then this whole thing wouldn't have turned out the same way this past season.

No way, Myers, Lacob and Welts know what they are doing and don't get caught flat footed. York is more like Cohan. Trade for Webber, ditch Webber for nothing because he and coach had a spat, fire coach shortly thereafter and have nothing but Gugliotta and Todd Fuller to show for it.

I understand what you're saying, though I wouldn't quite paint it black and white. Both orgs likely have some process in place to make decisions. They do their homework, discuss, and pull the trigger. The W's process is money right now. The 49ers' process did get the stadium done and acquired some HOF talent, but it's not running so hot recently. They seem to have decided that both Baalke and Harbaugh together was breaking down that process; trying to load two guns rather than just firing at one target. Now left with the shambles of that poor processing period, they rebooted it with Baalke as the main guy. Starting with this 2015 draft, we'll see what this process turns out: pee excellence or more misery. Still, that's much more than what Cohan was. Aside from hiring Nellie every now and then, his only process was to let St. Jean (and others) work really hard to stay mediocre ("how do I spend the maximum resources to get the most mediocre talent possible?"

). I'd say better comparisons to Cohan are Lew Wolff and the latter years of Al Davis. Wolff lets the internal cap dominate any long-term decision-making process. Al appeared to let gut instinct dominate any sort of process.

Oct 28, 2015 at 3:13 AM

#101

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This is such a sad team. What a complete joke. The mere fact that we have this thread tells you a lot about the 2015 49ers.

Oct 28, 2015 at 3:20 AM

#102

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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Where did story this come from?

Jed York.

no....wait........ "sources."

It's those whisperers again......

Oct 28, 2015 at 4:41 AM

#103

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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
English gonna lock this since no links as proof. Lol

OP heard the "whispers" also

Oct 28, 2015 at 5:14 AM

#104

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Niners99:
What brand though? Who was even buying Vernon Davis stock when he was good? He basically had 2 huge seasons, and 2 decent seasons, and was mediocre to garbage the rest of his career. He is WAY less important than he thinks. Guys like LeBron James, Mike Trout, and Aaron Rodgers should sell personal stock. Not Vernon Davis.

You can basically backdate to where he started to look craptastic to the time all this player stock nonsense started. Vernon started getting high on his own supply and his game went off a cliff. And he's still never gotten rid of that stupid bunny hop which gives defenders additional time to close in on him.

Even coming out of college he was ALL athleticism. He was a big, strong, fast dude playing TE to create a mismatch. Now, hes old, and lost his advantage. He cant catch, he cant run clean routes, and hes afraid of contact. Hes one of the softest NFL players I can remember. Never once saw him go up and contend for a ball with a defender, or once saw him dive for a pass. He catches the ball like hes holding a laundry basket down at torso level.

"The Catch 3" he definitely battled for, and was a beast the entire game....not that I disagree that current Vernon is a POS I want them to trade ASAP, but he did have some real huge stretches for the Niners over the years and at one point was in the conversation as the best TE in the game. Again, I have no use for him or his attitude now, but a lot of the great things this team did during the all-too short glory years with Harbaugh were impacted greatly by VD

Oct 28, 2015 at 6:12 AM

#105

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Originally posted by bigmur49:
"The Catch 3" he definitely battled for, and was a beast the entire game....not that I disagree that current Vernon is a POS I want them to trade ASAP, but he did have some real huge stretches for the Niners over the years and at one point was in the conversation as the best TE in the game. Again, I have no use for him or his attitude now, but a lot of the great things this team did during the all-too short glory years with Harbaugh were impacted greatly by VD

It is not considered one of the catches if we didn't win the Super Bowl.