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RollinWith21n52 · 2015-10-06T09:48:49-07:00

I think given the fact that we allowed 90 points in 2 weeks, and scored 6 in 2 weeks, it's fair to at least consider what other options exist. Current Roster: Jim Tomsula - I think out of respect for what seems like a nice guy, we should at least entertain the idea that he sticks around. The benefit is continuity. Maybe he needs a real chance, with a new QB, some help on the o-line, etc. The issue is that he's not an NFL head coach. Slice it how you will, Tomsula is not outsmarting BB or Tomlin in the SB. College: Urban Meyer - The only real question here is if he would leave college, and if he would, why this job would appeal to him over the Colts or Dolphins, who already have QBs. This is a loooooooooong shot, but it needs to be mentioned that he's the clear-cut most interesting candidate out there. Not many college coaches work out, and this could be a bust, but his ceiling is unlimited. One of the great football minds in the game. Would he know how to use Kaep? hmmmm... Kevin Sumlin - He's built quite a program, but has he really done enough to be in that conversation with Carrol, Harbaugh, Saban, and Kelly, with college coaches that the NFL can't wait to test out. He's clearly managed QB development well, getting 2 drafted in the 1st round. He's also done well with offensive linemen. Also no indication that he'll be leaving his post, but it's not impossible. David Shaw - How has his Stanford compared to Harbaugh's? Surprisingly, not bad. He's known a quality offensive mind, and certainly has a very disciplined team. We lack all of this. Jim Mora Jr - The good? Niner roots, what he's done with UCLA, some success with ATL and pedigree. The bad? NFL HC resume isn't overly impressive, and a great owner in Paul Allen decided that he should go in a different direction. Maybe Mora got the additional experience he needed, and is ready for a return. After all, Carroll was fired by the great Kraft. But maybe he has no reason to leave UCLA. Nick Saban - Not the likeliest candidate to return to the NFL, but why not mention him? But not my first pick, since the QB has never been a part of his repertoire. However, there's no denying what the man has done. One of the most dominant college coaches of all time, and a very respected coach by BB. Current Assistants Teryl Austin - While the Lions aren't experiencing the same success now, as they were last year, Austin is still very much in the mix. A thorough resume of coaching defensive backs and defenses, Austin seems ready. What bothers me is that he's a defensive coach (not a problem in general, but I assume we'll be starting over at QB, and will need someone ready to coach him up. Don't want the revolving door at OC again). I also don't see that signature about him resume. Not like he coached the 2012 Seahawks, or their secondary, and not like the figured out the 16-0 Pats in the SB. Just another defensive assistant. So many have failed. Kyle Shannahan - Unlike Austin, Shannahan has some "signature" wins on his resume. He made the worthless RGIII the rookie of the year over Luck and Wilson, got Hoyer to look like a legit starter, and is now resurrecting the Falcons offense to dominance. He looks like he's 15, but that's the biggest knock, The guy has proven he can coach, and coach's kids usually do pretty well for themselves. I like this candidate a lot. If only he looked like an adult... Greg Roman - I think Roman has earned consideration. Unfortunately, we closed that door. If Roman's performance with the niners wasn't convincing enough, Geep's performance certainly is. Josh McDaniels - This is the one that's circled on Jed's wall. McDaniels has a big head, has failed miserably at the role before, has an annoying face, and really really really knows offensive football. I'm still waiting for a BB assistant to succeed in a role outside the Pats, but McDaniels is certainly the most likely. So many signature stats on his resume...now can they be replicated without TB and BB? Plus, didn't he turn us down last year? Ah yes, no one likes working for York. Pep Hamilton - Popular name for some time is getting less popular. He's been tied to Luck his whole career, and people will be weary. However, he's still a smart football coach, been around some solid coaches, and has helped develop Luck into one of the better young QBs in the game. He's an interesting name to keep in mind, once everyone else turns us down. Hue Jackson - Interesting choice. Was clearly not ready to be HC, Owner, GM, etc. overnight, but has always been an impressive offensive coach. With the right experience and the right structure around him, Hue is an interesting option. His Palmer trade may have been a disaster, but he had the right idea. You rebuild with a QB. It's amazing, but some people still don't fully recognize that. Vance Joseph - While he hasn't been a coordinator yet, the name has been mentioned around the league for years now. He may be the rare position coach who'll get a jump right into coaching. On the downside, those guys fail more often than not. Perhaps we should keep a close eye on him for a DC position. Or if the niners stick to their current trends, maybe they'll hire him to be a TEs coach...but that's a different topic altogether. Kris Richard - A little too early, I know, but this guy has a real future in the NFL. This was the DBs coach for the best secondary of all time, comprised largely for late round picks, and undrafted FAs. Maybe if we have the bad sense to let Tomsula bake for another year, we can come back to this candidate in 2017. Ghosh he's impressive...but maybe not quite seasoned enough. Former Coaches Mike Smith - Let's forget all the guys who have been retired for 15 years, and working an commentators. The one guy of interest is Mike Smith. A good coach, who didn't quite rebuild after his team lost key pieces. That just happens sometimes. Reminds me a lot of John Fox and the success he had in Denver, after a few down years in Carolina. Not the most exciting hire on earth, but would be solid. My top choices are Meyer (we have no shot, but he remain my top pick by far), Sumlin and Shannahan. Thoughts?

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:08 AM

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cris_sonic
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vs.

And then there was just two... next Niners coach in 2016 will be named on Friday!

[ Edited by cris_sonic on Jan 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM ]

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:09 AM

#7667

Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by 49ersOnMINE:
Coughlin to the 49ers watch! lmao

better than chip or shanny

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM

#7668

jimmythegreekjr
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We interviewed 3 NFC East coaches. Why not make it the whole division and bring in Jimmy Johnson?

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:15 AM

#7669

paulk205
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
We interviewed 3 NFC East coaches. Why not make it the whole division and bring in Jimmy Johnson?

Is Switzer still alive? (ducking)

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM

#7670

RishikeshA
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With Shanahan you're getting someone that has seen better days. Can we expect him to turn it around at 63 and be a winner again? Chip Kelly? If he fails it will be along the lines of the Titanic going under. I say hire Chip, it will be interesting.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:18 AM

#7671

Jcool
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
With Tom Coughlin out of the picture, the Eagles now are expected to pursue Chiefs OC Doug Pederson as their next head coach, per source.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM

#7672

BOI49er
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I've never been on the dump Baalke bandwagon, giving him a pass on Kaepernick as Harbaugh's thing, but if they go with Chip Kelly, there is no hope.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:21 AM

#7673

Gore_21
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Man we struck out so many times and dicked around. Why not just wait and hope like hell that McDaniels wants to join us? Or just go with McDermott? I guess now we settle for Shanahan or Kelly like a lot of us thought would happen since we couldn't get anything done. As long as Jed, Paraag and Trent are here the ego's will probably stand in the way of us being successful long term.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:22 AM

#7674

DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
With Tom Coughlin out of the picture, the Eagles now are expected to pursue Chiefs OC Doug Pederson as their next head coach, per source.

Good choice

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM

#7675

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Man we struck out so many times and dicked around. Why not just wait and hope like hell that McDaniels wants to join us? Or just go with McDermott? I guess now we settle for Shanahan or Kelly like a lot of us thought would happen since we couldn't get anything done. As long as Jed, Paraag and Trent are here the ego's will probably stand in the way of us being successful long term.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM

#7676

jimmythegreekjr
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Gore_21:
Man we struck out so many times and dicked around. Why not just wait and hope like hell that McDaniels wants to join us? Or just go with McDermott? I guess now we settle for Shanahan or Kelly like a lot of us thought would happen since we couldn't get anything done. As long as Jed, Paraag and Trent are here the ego's will probably stand in the way of us being successful long term.

Well at least Paraag has been reassigned from President...that was a positive step.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:25 AM

#7677

jimmythegreekjr
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
With Tom Coughlin out of the picture, the Eagles now are expected to pursue Chiefs OC Doug Pederson as their next head coach, per source.

Good choice

Funny, the 49ers didn't think so.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:25 AM

#7678

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by 49er_Rider:
#Eagles talks with Tom Coughlin have intensified, as well. This could all go down very quickly. He seems to have wrapped his head around it.

Per Ian Rapoport

The kid was right!

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:25 AM

#7679

VA9erfan
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
With Tom Coughlin out of the picture, the Eagles now are expected to pursue Chiefs OC Doug Pederson as their next head coach, per source.

Glad to see that at least they will continue interviewing HC candidates and not hire someone for the sake of hiring.

Jan 14, 2016 at 10:26 AM

#7680

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Funny, the 49ers didn't think so.

An OC that doesn't even call his own offense....meh. Reid has been doing a hell of a job selling Pederson to the Iggles.