is the OFFENSE actually better than last year? | Page 4

bigmur49 · 2015-07-30T07:04:30-07:00

-Better play calling. I am just assuming, don't think it can be worse or more confusing -Something from Warner training had to rub off on Kap. Even if he is only a bit better he is still good enough to win a lot of games, and frankly I think he will become a great QB but leave that out of the argument for now -Running backs - I think Hyde/Bush/Hunter is better than Gore/Hyde/nobody. Yes we will miss leadership and effort of Frank, but Hyde with another year of experience, plus a different style of Bush makes the running game very powerful I think (plus Kap) -Vervon Davis has to be better. He can't be worse. He is a proud guy and I think he will be extremely motivated to make up for last year -Another year experience for Carrier, better blocking, better route running -T.Smith is an upgrade over Crabtree based on what they can bring to the offense. Deep play ability the Niners haven't had forever. And a different attitude can't hut either -Patton/Ellington another year experience has to help Biggest scare on offense if the O-Line with Iupati and Davis gone. This has potential to be a mess, but with injuries and the way the line was juggled last year I think they should still be average to above average with the additions made. If Kap can get the ball out quicker I think they will be good.

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM

#46

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Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Gotta remind myself that it's verb posting before I reply... Why waste a thought out reply.

exactly

The guy is just trying to get responses.... No one can be that dumb and draw breath, let alone operate a keyboard.

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM

#47

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Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Gotta remind myself that it's verb posting before I reply... Why waste a thought out reply.

exactly

The guy is just trying to get responses.... No one can be that dumb and draw breath, let alone operate a keyboard.

but there always one that defies the odds

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM

#48

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O-line big question mark...big down grade from a talent stand point compared to last year and and new zone blocking scheme...doesn't look good...

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM

#49

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Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Gotta remind myself that it's verb posting before I reply... Why waste a thought out reply.

exactly

The guy is just trying to get responses.... No one can be that dumb and draw breath, let alone operate a keyboard.

He is like if sus and Reign weren't entertaining

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:49 AM

#50

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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by English:
Underestimating the value Roman brought to the team when it comes to play design and devising schemes? Did you watch at all last year? Or is this a deliberate spoof?

See only in NT where people will remember Harbaugh's staff based only on last season's results.

But everywhere else Harbaugh will be remembered for bringing us back to being among the elite teams.

See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM

#51

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Originally posted by verb1der:
But every new regime will say they will "fix things", lol.

I also think our fanbase in general is grossly underestimating the value Harbaugh/Roman/Fangio brought to this team when it comes to overall knowledge of play design, devising schemes, and scouting of the opponent.

You guys will find out.

this coming from the same guy who wanted roman out and geep to be the new oc. there are just so many things wrong with your opinion, in my opinion,,
if they were so great how come we never made half time adjustments
if they were so great how come we scored four points a game in the second half of games
if they were so smart why did they always run into nine men fronts
oh why do i even bother

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM

#52

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Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by English:
Underestimating the value Roman brought to the team when it comes to play design and devising schemes? Did you watch at all last year? Or is this a deliberate spoof?

See only in NT where people will remember Harbaugh's staff based only on last season's results.

But everywhere else Harbaugh will be remembered for bringing us back to being among the elite teams.

we had offensive issues for years that never were fixed
s**tty pass protection
s**tty clock management
not knowing how to use time outs
why were they never addressed if the past regime was so smart
it all came to a ugly head last year and the lack of adjustments the so called smart regime did not do proved to me, jh was better off in college

Jul 30, 2015 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by English:
See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

english said nothing wrong. f**king up a winnable super bowl game due to their stupidity in clock management and getting plays called in on time is a disgrace to every niner fan. the " but but but we should be happy just to be there" is for losers. glad we are going to start winning with class as compared to lunacy on the sidelines

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM

#54

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Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by English:
See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

english said nothing wrong. f**king up a winnable super bowl game due to their stupidity in clock management and getting plays called in on time is a disgrace to every niner fan. the " but but but we should be happy just to be there" is for losers. glad we are going to start winning with class as compared to lunacy on the sidelines

Complaining about not winning a Superbowl is pretty much the same thing as a little kid crying inside Disneyland because they can't spend the whole day with Mickey Mouse.

Kids, don't be like this!!!

[ Edited by verb1der on Jul 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM ]

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by verb1der:
Complaining about not winning a Superbowl is pretty much the same thing as a little kid crying inside Disneyland because they can't spend the whole day with Mickey Mouse.

Kids, don't be like this!!!

the irony of this post coming from a kid having a temper tantrum in the cereal aisle because he didn't get his sugary cereal.

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM

#56

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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by English:
See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

english said nothing wrong. f**king up a winnable super bowl game due to their stupidity in clock management and getting plays called in on time is a disgrace to every niner fan. the " but but but we should be happy just to be there" is for losers. glad we are going to start winning with class as compared to lunacy on the sidelines

Complaining about not winning a Superbowl is pretty much the same thing as a little kid crying inside Disneyland because they can't spend the whole day with Mickey Mouse.

Kids, don't be like this!!!

Way to avoid the point. Get personal with the posters challenging your view, thus avoiding having to respond to the rebuttals to your post.

Kids, don't be like this.

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 PM

#57

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Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by English:
See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

english said nothing wrong. f**king up a winnable super bowl game due to their stupidity in clock management and getting plays called in on time is a disgrace to every niner fan. the " but but but we should be happy just to be there" is for losers. glad we are going to start winning with class as compared to lunacy on the sidelines

Complaining about not winning a Superbowl is pretty much the same thing as a little kid crying inside Disneyland because they can't spend the whole day with Mickey Mouse.

Kids, don't be like this!!!

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:12 PM

#58

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I think we are in a situation were it is addition by subtraction. Letting some personnel(coaching and players) move on might be the best thing. The offense got stale and might need some new life and youth to spark it. I feel the talent is there but like it has been said it doesnt mean much till bullets fly. Lets just hope we arent shooting blanks

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:13 PM

#59

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Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by English:
See, I remember Harbaugh, Roman and the rest as getting us back into contention, taking us near the top but being unable to get us to the summit. Inflexible and lacking in various areas such as preparation, in-game adaptability, ridiculous play calling badly transmitted onto the field, refusing to blood the youngsters unless there was absolutely no alternative and ridiculous side line antics. Funny, but ridiculous.

And I think most people here share those views or something quite close. It is only you claiming that we have damned Harbaugh.

english said nothing wrong. f**king up a winnable super bowl game due to their stupidity in clock management and getting plays called in on time is a disgrace to every niner fan. the " but but but we should be happy just to be there" is for losers. glad we are going to start winning with class as compared to lunacy on the sidelines

Complaining about not winning a Superbowl is pretty much the same thing as a little kid crying inside Disneyland because they can't spend the whole day with Mickey Mouse.

Kids, don't be like this!!!

Wtf?? Noone remembers 2nd place unless you are the 2014 Seattle Seahawks!

Jul 30, 2015 at 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Wtf?? Noone remembers 2nd place unless you are the 2014 Seattle Seahawks!

If you ain't first you're LAST