2015 49ers Training Camp Thread

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by susweel:
You cant even compare niners to Seattle anymore those dudes know how to get and keep talent together.

their coaching was far superior to our coaching the past few years.

Now that is a fact, they both f**ked up a winnable super bowl for their respective teams but they had good coaching last year and we had,, well never mind. did you ever see them unable to know how to use a playclock or what to do with a challenge flag? and it has been well established that stuff fell on the coaches and not the players,, so sus , you are right, their coaches were much better than ours

Originally posted by crake49:
Actually, the way their cap situation looks, a lot of the analysts are saying this is the make-or-break year for them. If anyone thinks they're having trouble retaining talent this year, just wait until next year - it's going to get ugly up there.

This. In 2016 they have 100 million tied to 10 guys. Good luck with that.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by susweel:
You cant even compare niners to Seattle anymore those dudes know how to get and keep talent together.

their coaching was far superior to our coaching the past few years.

Truth.

I don't know about that. They were struggling to get a decent qb, remember Matt Flynn. Then Wilson dropped into their lap like a leprechaun. The last offensive call in the SB was very reminisce of Roman and Harbaugh. They were signing Niners cast offs also. Good running game and defense, still looking for a dynamic offense like we are.

Very similar team so far within the same division.

many delay of games did they have as compared to us. did we ever know what they were going to run on offense before they ran it. every team including seattle knew what we were going to do. nope, sorry coaching they got was superior to what we had

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by susweel:
You cant even compare niners to Seattle anymore those dudes know how to get and keep talent together.

their coaching was far superior to our coaching the past few years.

The organization is far superior they kept the secondary together, kept beastmode, kept wilson and even kept wagner when everybody here said it would not be possible.

Eh....they have kept them for one more year..two if they are very, very lucky. The best player in the secondary wants a new deal already, Lynch is a threat to walk out the door every single game because he is so unhappy and when Wilson's deal kicks in they will have to shed a lot of talent to keep paying their top 6 which accounts for around 80% of their total cap. They are basically all in this year and maybe next because after that, unless Wilson becomes the kind of elite that can carry the offense all by himself like Brady or Rogers the wheels will fall off.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by genus49:
The reason they were able to keep all those guys is because most of them were later round draft picks up for their first post draft deal.

It is sooo much easier to extend guys who were drafted 2nd round or higher because they haven't sniffed the big money and all these guys settle for some big guaranteed money which they get when an extension comes through.

Bennett is already looking for a new deal. Kam is already looking for a new deal. Sure they have a 3-4 year window now with these new deals but after that they'll be lucky to keep half of these guys.

Actually, the way their cap situation looks, a lot of the analysts are saying this is the make-or-break year for them. If anyone thinks they're having trouble retaining talent this year, just wait until next year - it's going to get ugly up there.

pretty much this....

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by susweel:
You cant even compare niners to Seattle anymore those dudes know how to get and keep talent together.

their coaching was far superior to our coaching the past few years.

Truth.

x2

1-1 in SBs versus 0-1...no comparison! LOL! But by all means blame whoever is still here rather than moving on...

Why are you guys talking about the shehawks in this thread!!!!

i'd rather talk about the Grass and what they gonna do about it

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:
You cant even compare niners to Seattle anymore those dudes know how to get and keep talent together.

of course we had a few positive posts in a row so sus had to put a stop to it we have talent that has been kept together,. in the case of justin, gore and willis, we just hit the wall and are now mixing in a fusion of new people and young people into the mix. sorry you can not get used to change

Here's the REALITY: They kept their best LB, corner, safety, Dlineman, RB and QB.

We kept our best LB, Corner, safety and QB. Our best Dlineman and RB were old and had to be replaced / retired.

Why are we comparing ourselves To SEA? We are if different situations.

They are super bowl ready today and we are regrouping, reloading, rebuding or whatever you'd like you would like to call it.

Their future will be cap trouble yes, but they are a serious contender now.

Our future is murky at best. We haven't seen what our new guys can do. We've seen what this SEA team can do.

All this talk about tomsula really caring about his players but he let's them practice on crappy field remember when harbs cancelled a practice because he didn't want to risk his players. Who really currs ?

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Why are we comparing ourselves To SEA? We are if different situations.

They are super bowl ready today and we are regrouping, reloading, rebuding or whatever you'd like you would like to call it.

Their future will be cap trouble yes, but they are a serious contender now.

Our future is murky at best. We haven't seen what our new guys can do. We've seen what this SEA team can do.

You havent seen what we can do ?

Last year with a s**t OL and no Coaching got us 8-8 we under achieved, not over acheived

There are not that many new guys that are starting, you act like we have a whole new Defense and offense

Originally posted by susweel:
All this talk about tomsula really caring about his players but he let's them practice on crappy field remember when harbs cancelled a practice because he didn't want to risk his players. Who really currs ?

huh ?

it seems like you care ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Why are we comparing ourselves To SEA? We are if different situations.

They are super bowl ready today and we are regrouping, reloading, rebuding or whatever you'd like you would like to call it.

Their future will be cap trouble yes, but they are a serious contender now.

Our future is murky at best. We haven't seen what our new guys can do. We've seen what this SEA team can do.

You havent seen what we can do ?

Last year with a s**t OL and no Coaching got us 8-8 we under achieved, not over acheived

There are not that many new guys that are starting, you act like we have a whole new Defense and offense

I'm more talking about what the new coaches can do. That plus our DBs and Oline need to show what they can do.

Like i said, our future isn't clear at the moment.

We have a lot of new starters.

Originally posted by susweel:
All this talk about tomsula really caring about his players but he let's the practice on crappy field remember when harbs cancelled a practice because he didn't want to risk his players. Who really currs ?

It's not crappy grass! It's nice fluffy soft grass. If you have ever fallen on loose sod you will know how wrong you are. They use this stuff in the halls of old folks homes so they don't get hurt when falling off their walkers. The easter bunny shows up twice a year when you have loose sod. Angie Dickenson...wait...that's private.

Quit seeing the black cloud...it will rain soon enough! I swear...you must be related to Joe Btfsplk!