I see this years team like the Golden State Warriors | Page 8

707Niners · 2015-06-15T13:59:37-07:00

The Niners have had a ridiculous amount of talent that hasn't been properly used in the passed 4 years, mainly on the offensive side. Similar with the Warriors, so what did they do? fired there coach and brought in a whole new coaching staff with a whole new scheme that emphasized ball movement, and a faster pace on Offense... The Niners are emphasing ball screens, hurry up offense, downfield play...things that we have all been wanting, which will finally open it up, because as good as our Defense has been, ur not Winning a Championship if ur Offense is one dimensional....I see this team finishing Top 10 in Defense and Offense this year, with the Leadership of Bowman, Aldon, Bethea, Dockett, and Reid on Defense and to go along with Kap, Vernon, Boldin, Staley on Offense this team can be special this year.....a lot of media people are doubting this team, and I know I'm a fan but I see a great deal of talent and all they need is a solid system and if the staff can provide that, then watch out.

Jun 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM

#106

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by NCommand:
The guy who was used to evaluate and bash CK is now saying this...and suddenly it's quiet.

Hmmm:

Greg Cosell: http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/49ers-Live-Greg-Cosell-Joins-the-Show/a1d9074d-17e2-4d03-9e8e-ed3d57235cc9

"The one thing that did strike me, just looking at the roster...(despite national media-B.S.)...I was still struck by how talented a team the 49ers are."

"I've known Jim (Tomsula) for a while now...he's all football...I think he feels very good about the roster, as he should, particularly on the defensive side of the ball...Jim is old-school; he wants to play hammer and nails football. He wants to grind it out, be physical, play tough, hard-nosed football, which, by the way, fits the division they're in."

"It's huge! (having Bowman back). And I think one FA-signing that should not be overlooked is Darnell Dockett...but Darnell Dockett was one of the best DE/DT in the game before his injury and I think he's probably rejuvinated a bit being with a new team and new environment." "Aldon Smith is a great weapon...you can move him around...if he can play 16 games that's a vast improvement."

"People tend to forget with Colin Kaepernick b/c he had such great success early that he's only been a full-time starter for 2 years...he's still a young QB learning."

"A lot of it (success and continued next steps this off season) has to do with scheme and design (talked about getting more expansive with CK via Geep and involving VD in the game plans again), trying to figure out the absolute best ways to utilize the talent in all phases: offense, defense and special teams."

"And that's another thing that is absolutely worth mentioning...particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Eric Mangini is the defensive coordinator but they have two other defensive coaches who were coordinators in this league, Jason Tarver & Clancy Pendegrast and they've been successful coordinators. So this is a coaching staff that I think is very very good that's being overlooked. Even offensively, Chris Foerster, the offensive line coach, is widely regarded as one of the most respected in the league. This is a high-high level coaching staff and I think that is something people need to be aware of b/c it's not being talked about enough."

Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/180996-congrats-jim-tomsula-new-head-coach/page381/#4S0RiRORssxkTRqo.99

Some of us were seeing this as far back as Feb (Bolded)

Jun 18, 2015 at 12:20 PM

#107

NCommand
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Some of us were seeing this as far back as Feb (Bolded)

Jun 18, 2015 at 12:44 PM

#108

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Kerr has been a champion as a player so he knows what it takes to win. Plus he's been an analyst for years and seen all that experience on the court. The coaching staff in place right now for the niners, is there anyone thats won the SB? The niners definitely have the talent but can the coaching get them to the SB, is the question.

If they make it to the SB and win......no doubt Baalke and Jed are geniuses.

Jun 18, 2015 at 8:28 PM

#109

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Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The guy who was used to evaluate and bash CK is now saying this...and suddenly it's quiet.

Hmmm:

Greg Cosell: http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/49ers-Live-Greg-Cosell-Joins-the-Show/a1d9074d-17e2-4d03-9e8e-ed3d57235cc9

"The one thing that did strike me, just looking at the roster...(despite national media-B.S.)...I was still struck by how talented a team the 49ers are."

"I've known Jim (Tomsula) for a while now...he's all football...I think he feels very good about the roster, as he should, particularly on the defensive side of the ball...Jim is old-school; he wants to play hammer and nails football. He wants to grind it out, be physical, play tough, hard-nosed football, which, by the way, fits the division they're in."

"It's huge! (having Bowman back). And I think one FA-signing that should not be overlooked is Darnell Dockett...but Darnell Dockett was one of the best DE/DT in the game before his injury and I think he's probably rejuvinated a bit being with a new team and new environment." "Aldon Smith is a great weapon...you can move him around...if he can play 16 games that's a vast improvement."

"People tend to forget with Colin Kaepernick b/c he had such great success early that he's only been a full-time starter for 2 years...he's still a young QB learning."

"A lot of it (success and continued next steps this off season) has to do with scheme and design (talked about getting more expansive with CK via Geep and involving VD in the game plans again), trying to figure out the absolute best ways to utilize the talent in all phases: offense, defense and special teams."

"And that's another thing that is absolutely worth mentioning...particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Eric Mangini is the defensive coordinator but they have two other defensive coaches who were coordinators in this league, Jason Tarver & Clancy Pendegrast and they've been successful coordinators. So this is a coaching staff that I think is very very good that's being overlooked. Even offensively, Chris Foerster, the offensive line coach, is widely regarded as one of the most respected in the league. This is a high-high level coaching staff and I think that is something people need to be aware of b/c it's not being talked about enough."

Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/180996-congrats-jim-tomsula-new-head-coach/page381/#4S0RiRORssxkTRqo.99
Some of us were seeing this as far back as Feb (Bolded)

This!

My issue is not so much the talent, but the change in coaching and the loss of leadership on the field. Gore, J.Smith and Willis where all core leaders of the team. That is gone. Moreover, you can be supremely talented and not have chemistry (2012 Eagles say hi). As you know, there is a lot that determines a TEAMS success. I just think its going to take time for this coaching staff and the players to work out the kinks.

Jun 19, 2015 at 10:19 AM

#110

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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
My issue is not so much the talent, but the change in coaching and the loss of leadership on the field. Gore, J.Smith and Willis where all core leaders of the team. That is gone. Moreover, you can be supremely talented and not have chemistry (2012 Eagles say hi). As you know, there is a lot that determines a TEAMS success. I just think its going to take time for this coaching staff and the players to work out the kinks.

It would be worth the wait. I'm personally aiming for 2017 for the 49ers to be a wining team

Jun 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM

#111

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Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
My issue is not so much the talent, but the change in coaching and the loss of leadership on the field. Gore, J.Smith and Willis where all core leaders of the team. That is gone. Moreover, you can be supremely talented and not have chemistry (2012 Eagles say hi). As you know, there is a lot that determines a TEAMS success. I just think its going to take time for this coaching staff and the players to work out the kinks.

It would be worth the wait. I'm personally aiming for 2017 for the 49ers to be a wining team

Possible but why 2 years? If the talent is there, with the right direction and a few tweaks, even a college-first-time NFL coach can find success (Harbaugh).

Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM

#112

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Originally posted by NCommand:
The guy who was used to evaluate and bash CK is now saying this...and suddenly it's quiet.

Hmmm:

Greg Cosell: http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/49ers-Live-Greg-Cosell-Joins-the-Show/a1d9074d-17e2-4d03-9e8e-ed3d57235cc9

"

you believe him?

This is the same dude that picked the Lions to go deeper into the playoffs than niners back in 2011.

He just says s**t to get a paycheck now.

Jun 19, 2015 at 11:41 AM

#113

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niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba

Jun 19, 2015 at 11:44 AM

#114

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba

What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

Jun 19, 2015 at 11:56 AM

#115

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba
What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.

Jun 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM

#116

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Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba
What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.

bingo

Jun 19, 2015 at 12:16 PM

#117

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba
What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.

So what does Steve Kerr have to do with the 9ers

Jun 19, 2015 at 12:54 PM

#118

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Originally posted by ads_2006:
thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.

Just wondering, how excited were you for the entire coaching staff when harbaugh first came in?

Our current staff is full of ex headcoaches, ex coordinators, and some of the best at their assistant positions. For gods sake, Romans only other O coordinator experience was at the highschool level! Apart from the dome patrol, what other accolades did Fangio have? Morton....lol

Jun 19, 2015 at 1:02 PM

#119

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba
What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.
So what does Steve Kerr have to do with the 9ers

It's a warriors/49ers thread and Kerr coaches the warriors . Next question

Jun 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM

#120

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by susweel:
niners really feeling that love

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2015/06/19/golden-state-warriors-head-coach-steve-kerr-rocks-seahawks-shirt-while-clutching-nba
What do the 9ers have to do with steve kerr ?

thread is about golden state warriors/49ers

Deep down Jed is really hoping we turn out like the warriors.

Fire a coach that got the program turned around and hire a coach that can get us over the hump.

Problem is Steve Kerr hired an A+ staff and was told by the owners to spare no expense in doing so, whereas Jed/Baalke new staff seems like a downgrade from the previous one.
So what does Steve Kerr have to do with the 9ers

It's a warriors/49ers thread and Kerr coaches the warriors . Next question

What love are the 9ers feeling ?