Post Draft 53 Man Depth Chart | Page 10

ucsbpv20 · 2015-05-02T21:41:22-07:00

Now that the draft is over I think you can put together a relatively clear picture of what the 53 man roster will look like going into the season. I know most people are generally pessimistic for the coming season but after looking at the 53 man roster I feel more confident this is a team that can compete. I really wanted to see how people feel after looking at the depth chart. Does this make you more confident going into the season or worse? Remember this is obviously just a guess at the 53 and I admittedly was a little optimistic with some of the rookies making the team. However for the last few years most of the rookies have managed to find a way onto the roster relatively few have been cut. Offense QB Kap/ Gabbert RB Hyde/ Bush/ Hunter/ Davis FB Millar/ Millard TE V. Davis/ McDonald/ Bell WR T. Smith/ Ellington/ Simpson OT Staley OG Thomas/ Looney OC Martin/ Kilgore OG Boone/ Silberman OT A. Davis/ T. Brown WR Boldin/ Patton Slot Ellington 25 Defense DE Tank/ Dial/ T.J.E DT Williams/ Dorsey DE Docket/ Armstead OLB Lynch/ Brooks/ Lemonier ILB Wilhoite/ Moody ILB Bowman/ Wheeler OLB A. Smith/ Harold CB Brock/ Reeser/ Acker FS Reid/ Ward SS Bethea/ Tartt CB Johnson/ Wright NB Ward/ Tartt 25 K Dawson P Pinion LS Nelson 3 PUP Smelter/ Anderson Bubble Pears/ Farrell/ Cook/ Bellore/ Lee/ Celeck/ Carrier

Jun 2, 2015 at 1:28 PM

#136

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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:
That swiss cheese roster.

Like your points/posts. Lots and lots and lots of holes in 'em and kind of bitter.

damn son you got all that out of my post ?

I was just merely referring to the gaping holes at CB, ILB and back up QB.

You know I like to play a little ping-pong with you.

But for real, you still think we have big holes at CB, ILB and QB?

Jun 2, 2015 at 1:32 PM

#137

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:
That swiss cheese roster.

Like your points/posts. Lots and lots and lots of holes in 'em and kind of bitter.

damn son you got all that out of my post ?

I was just merely referring to the gaping holes at CB, ILB and back up QB.

You know I like to play a little ping-pong with you.

But for real, you still think we have big holes at CB, ILB and QB?

Yes huge ?s

Jun 2, 2015 at 1:40 PM

#138

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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:
That swiss cheese roster.

Like your points/posts. Lots and lots and lots of holes in 'em and kind of bitter.

damn son you got all that out of my post ?

I was just merely referring to the gaping holes at CB, ILB and back up QB.

You know I like to play a little ping-pong with you.

But for real, you still think we have big holes at CB, ILB and QB?

Yes huge ?s

"?'s," not necessarily, "holes"...yet. Now, why do I have a craving for a cheese sandwich?

Jun 2, 2015 at 1:58 PM

#139

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:
That swiss cheese roster.

Like your points/posts. Lots and lots and lots of holes in 'em and kind of bitter.

damn son you got all that out of my post ?

I was just merely referring to the gaping holes at CB, ILB and back up QB.

You know I like to play a little ping-pong with you.

But for real, you still think we have big holes at CB, ILB and QB?

Yes huge ?s

"?'s," not necessarily, "holes"...yet. Now, why do I have a craving for a cheese sandwich?

Lols

?s are holes until proven otherwise also it's not like the filing the positions are top tier prospects.

Jun 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM

#140

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Here we go:

Starter --- Rookie --- (Injured Reserve or Inactive PUP)(Key Backup)

Offensive Personnel: (25) (23 last year)
(2) QB: Colin Kaepernick; Blaine Gabbert (Blake Bell)
(2) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 3 QB's in Kaepernick, Gabbert & Johnson

(2) RB1: Carlos Hyde; Mike Davis
(2) RB2: Reggie Bush/Kendall Hunter
(4) Notes: 1 – Last year we kept 3 RB's in Gore, Hyde & James

(1) H-Back: Derek Carrier
(3) TE: Vernon Davis/Vance McDonald; Blake Bell
(4) Notes: 1 – Last year we kept 3 TE's in Davis, McDonald & Carrier

(2) FB: Bruce Miller; Trey Millard
(2) Notes: 1 – Last year we kept 1 FB in Miller

(1) X WR: Torrey Smith; Jerome Simpson
(2) Y WR (SLOT): Bruce Ellington; Quinton Patton
(2) Z WR: Anquan Boldin; (DeAndre Smelter)
(5) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 6 WR's in Crabtree, Boldin, Johnson, Lloyd, Patton & Ellington

(2) LOT: Joe Staley; Erik Pears
(1) ROT: Anthony Davis
(1) LG: Brandon Thomas
(2) RG: Alex Boone; Trenton Brown
(2) C: Marcus Martin; Daniel Kilgore
(8) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 9 OL's in Staley, Iupati, Kilgore, Boone, Looney, J.Martin, Davis, Farrell & M.Martin

Defensive Personnel: (25) (27 last year)
(3) RDE: Tank Carradine/Arik Armstead; Lawrence Okoye
(2) NT: Glenn Dorsey/Ian Williams
(2) LDE: Quinton Dial/Darnell Dockett
(7) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 8 DL's in Smith, McDonald, Carradine, Jerod-Eddie, Dial, Dobbs & Dorsey

(2) WILL: Aldon Smith/Eli Harold
(2) SAM: Ahmad Brooks/Aaron Lynch
(2) TED: Michael Wilhoite; Philip Wheeler
(2) MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Nick Bellore
(8) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 9 LB's in Smith, Brooks, Willis, Wilhoite, Skuta, Lemonier, Borland, Moody & Lynch

(3) RCB: Dontae Johnson; Chris Cook & Kenneth Acker
(2) LCB: Tramaine Brock; Shareece Wright
(2) SLOT: Jimmie Ward; Keith Reaser
(7) Notes: 1 – Last year we kept 6 CB's in Culliver, Brock, Ward, Cook, Cox & Johnson

(1) FS: Eric Reid
(1) SS: Antoine Bethea
(1) NICKLE/DIME (SS/ILB): Jaquiski Tartt
(3) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 4 S's in Bethea, Reid, McCray & Dahl

Special Teams: (3) (3 last year)
(1) LS: Kyle Nelson
(1) PK: Phil Dawson; (Bradley Pinion)
(1) P: Bradley Pinion
(3) Notes: Even – Last year we kept 3 ST's in Dawson, Lee & Nelson

PR/KOR: Bruce Ellington/Reggie Bush/Kendall Hunter; Darius Davis

Inactive PUP: X WR DeAndre Smelter

Tough cuts: Offense: Joe Looney, Dillon Farrell & Jarryd Haynes; Defense: Tony Jerod-Eddie, Nick Moody, LJ McCray & Shane Skov and Special Teams: Andy Lee

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
One note NCommand, I have a feeling Dahl makes the roster, right now he has $450K of his 2015 base salary guaranteed, plus he was given a $200K bonus when he redid his deal, I hate the idea of keeping him, but oh well.

I think Bishop is more likely to be kept over Wheeler, only due to salary, $1M for Wheeler compared to $585K for Bishop.

Also we need at least $8M for in season for 12 players, including Aldon Smith and the possibility of players earning roster bonuses that don't count against the cap.

Personally I hope Someone like Dres Anderson or DeAndrew White beats out Simpson, and we see Bruce and Patton play, they need PT.

Anyone else have some pretty strong convictions of roster-makers/deletions? If so, using the reference above, who gets cuts in favor of X-player?

As fans, we have this sense that we're working with a 63-man roster...not 53. While I tweak the 53, I can tell you, it's NOT fun!

Jun 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM

#141

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I doubt were going to carry 4 RB's,2 FB's and 4 TE's, So only one or two spots open for guys like Davis, Millard and Bell.
and they all get snagged if they hit waivers en-route to the PS
Were going to have to stash some young players on IR to keep them, and move them on to the 53 next year when some spots open up.

Jun 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM

#142

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Originally posted by cools:
I doubt were going to carry 4 RB's,2 FB's and 4 TE's, So only one or two spots open for guys like Davis, Millard and Bell.
and they all get snagged if they hit waivers en-route to the PS
Were going to have to stash some young players on IR to keep them, and move them on to the 53 next year when some spots open up.

Thanks cools!

Jun 4, 2015 at 2:10 PM

#143

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Originally posted by susweel:
Lols

?s are holes until proven otherwise also it's not like the filing the positions are top tier prospects.

I think everyone can agree we don't know who the starters will be but there is so much competion at almost every spot that we can have more optimism than pessimism. I will personally miss J Smith more than almost any player due to his unselfish play. He made the LBs so much better with his play...taking on double teams on almost every play and still wallling off his side of the line...but that doesn't mean the defense will collapse. It will just be different.

I disagree about not filling the holes with top notched prospects. Hyde was the best RB in his class, Armstead was one of the best 3/4 ends in his clas, and the MLBs have experience having played with an absent Willis last year.

Jun 4, 2015 at 2:30 PM

#144

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According to Pro football Focus

Jun 4, 2015 at 2:35 PM

#145

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Originally posted by lamontb:
According to Pro football Focus

Aldpn isnt elite?

Jun 4, 2015 at 2:42 PM

#146

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Originally posted by frozen49er:
Aldpn isnt elite?

Dockett/Bowman played last year? This whole thing is off for THIS year...like Dial will be at LDE, Dorsey at backup NT, AA will be at RDE, etc. All messed up.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM ]

Jun 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM

#147

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Originally posted by frozen49er:
Aldpn isnt elite?

The homer in me wants to say he should be, but there are definitely games where he doesn't produce much. Along with the off the field stuff slowing him down a little, high quality is a fair ranking.

Jun 5, 2015 at 5:53 PM

#148

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53-man Roster Projections:

Starter --- Rookie --- (Injured Reserve/Inactive PUP)(Key Backup)

Offensive Personnel: (26) (23 last year)
(2) QB: Colin Kaepernick; Blaine Gabbert (Blake Bell)
(2) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 3 QB's in Kaepernick, Gabbert & Johnson

(2) RB1: Carlos Hyde; Mike Davis
(2) RB2: Reggie Bush/Kendall Hunter
(4) Notes: +1 – Last year we kept 3 RB's in Gore, Hyde & James

(1) H-Back: Derek Carrier
(3) TE: Vernon Davis/Vance McDonald; Blake Bell
(4) Notes: +1 – Last year we kept 3 TE's in Davis, McDonald & Carrier

(2) FB: Bruce Miller; Trey Millard
(2) Notes: +1 – Last year we kept 1 FB in Miller

(2) X WR: Torrey Smith; Jerome Simpson
(2) Y WR (SLOT): Bruce Ellington; Quinton Patton
(1) Z WR: Anquan Boldin; (DeAndre Smelter)
(6) Notes: Even – Last year we kept 6 WR's in Crabtree, Boldin, Johnson, Lloyd, Patton & Ellington

(2) LOT: Joe Staley; Erik Pears & Ian Silberman
(1) LG: Brandon Thomas; (Ian Silberman)
(2) C: Daniel Kilgore; Joe Looney
(2) RG: Marcus Martin; (Erik Pears)
(1) ROT: Alex Boone; Trenton Brown (Erik Pears)
(9) Notes: Even – Last year we kept 9 OL's in Staley, Iupati, Kilgore, Boone, Looney, J.Martin, Davis, Farrell & M.Martin

Defensive Personnel: (24) (27 last year)
(3) RDE: Tank Carradine/Arik Armstead
(2) NT: Glenn Dorsey/Ian Williams
(2) LDE: Quinton Dial/Darnell Dockett
(6) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 8 DL's in Smith, McDonald, Carradine, Jerod-Eddie, Dial, Dobbs & Dorsey

(2) WILL: Aldon Smith/Eli Harold
(2) SAM: Ahmad Brooks/Aaron Lynch
(2) TED: Michael Wilhoite; Philip Wheeler
(2) MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Nick Bellore
(8) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 9 LB's in Smith, Brooks, Willis, Wilhoite, Skuta, Lemonier, Borland, Moody & Lynch

(3) RCB: Dontae Johnson; Chris Cook & Kenneth Acker
(2) LCB: Tramaine Brock; Shareece Wright
(2) SLOT: Jimmie Ward; Keith Reaser
(7) Notes: +1 – Last year we kept 6 CB's in Culliver, Brock, Ward, Cook, Cox & Johnson

(1) FS: Eric Reid
(1) SS: Antoine Bethea
(1) NICKLE/DIME (SS/ILB): Jaquiski Tartt
(3) Notes: -1 – Last year we kept 4 S's in Bethea, Reid, McCray & Dahl

Special Teams: (3) (3 last year)
(1) LS: Kyle Nelson
(1) PK: Phil Dawson; (Bradley Pinion)
(1) P: Bradley Pinion
(3) Notes: Even – Last year we kept 3 ST's in Dawson, Lee & Nelson

PR/KOR: Bruce Ellington/Reggie Bush/Kendall Hunter

Inactive PUP: X WR DeAndre Smelter

Tough cuts: Offense: Dillon Farrell & Jarryd Haynes; Defense: Lawrence Okoye, Tony Jerod-Eddie, Nick Moody, LJ McCray & Shane Skov and Special Teams: Andy Lee

[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM ]

Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM

#149

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Originally posted by Gore_21:
QB: Kap, Gabbert
RB: Hyde, Bush, Hunter, Davis
FB: Miller, Millard
OL: Staley, Thomas, Kilgore, Martin, Boone, Pears, Brown, Looney, Silberman
TE: Davis, McDonald, Carrier, Bell
WR: Smith, Boldin, Ellington, Patton, Simpson/Dres Anderson (winner... I think simpson stays)

DL: Dockett, Dorsey, Carradine, Dial, Williams, Armstead
ILB: Bowman, Wilhoite, Bishop/Wheeler (winner), Bellore (ST)
OLB: Smith, Lynch, Brooks/Lemonier (winner), Harold (I think Harold makes Lemonier expendable)
CB: Brock, Johnson, Wright, Acker, Cook, Reaser
S: Reid, Bethea, Ward, (plays 3rd CB too?), Tartt

P: Pinion
LS: Nelson
K: Dawson (Dawson needs to restructure, if not possibly cut and go street FA)

PUP (then IR): Smelter, Busta Anderson, Dres Anderson gets a hangnail and lands on this list

Updating 6-9... this is what I would do

Jun 9, 2015 at 7:56 PM

#150

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Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by Gore_21:
QB: Kap, Gabbert
RB: Hyde, Bush, Hunter, Davis
FB: Miller, Millard
OL: Staley, Thomas, Kilgore, Martin, Boone, Pears, Brown, Looney, Silberman
TE: Davis, McDonald, Carrier, Bell
WR: Smith, Boldin, Ellington, Patton, Simpson/Dres Anderson (winner... I think simpson stays)

DL: Dockett, Dorsey, Carradine, Dial, Williams, Armstead
ILB: Bowman, Wilhoite, Bishop/Wheeler (winner), Bellore (ST)
OLB: Smith, Lynch, Brooks/Lemonier (winner), Harold (I think Harold makes Lemonier expendable)
CB: Brock, Johnson, Wright, Acker, Cook, Reaser
S: Reid, Bethea, Ward, (plays 3rd CB too?), Tartt

P: Pinion
LS: Nelson
K: Dawson (Dawson needs to restructure, if not possibly cut and go street FA)

PUP (then IR): Smelter, Busta Anderson, Dres Anderson gets a hangnail and lands on this list

Updating 6-9... this is what I would do

Very Solid old friend. Note that players can start on PUP for the season and end on PUP. I forget the exact rules for PUP list, it may be he can't practice for TC, or play in preseason, so that may eliminate the two Anderson's from PUP, but IR works fine.

Only changes I might make is Dillon Farrell for Joe Looney, I think if Looney can't secure a spot on the 46 man active roster on gamedays then he needs to be cut, plus Farrell is way more versatile.

And I think, and I hate I am saying this, Craig Dahl makes it, maybe they keep an extra Safety due to the whole scare about Eric Reid possibly retiring if he gets concussed again. Plus we only save $650K from cutting Dahl, wish we had cut him in March saved $1.7M, and signed a better FS/SS in free agency, but oh well.