Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Sports statistics tend to be biased. Statistics tend to favor QBs who pass the ball. Peyton Manning could have 4800 YDS passing and Kap could have 4000 YDS passing and 800 YDS rushing and Peyton would be ranked higher when all offensive positions should be ranked by total YDS instead of individual yards.

But typically QBs are in their position for their passing skills, so it makes sense that passing is emphasized. Same for RBs and WRs. But PFFs offensive line rankings are obviously weighted based on subjective reasons that aren't consistent with reality. We know the NFL is a predominantly passing league, so why doesn't PFF's stats weight blocking based on that? Why should the Indianapolis Colts offensive line suffer in the rankings due to poor pass blocking when they're a passing team and have one of the top passers in the league?

Yes, and it's impossible to quantify mental toughness or focus. Why could Montana relax during a critical juncture in a Super Bowl? Just the way he's designed. How valuable is that? Would you rather have Kaepernick or P Manning running the potential game winning drive? At the moment, stats would show Manning to have the edge but at somepoint, no matter how Kaepernick plays, he will pass Manning as the latter ages. Is that moment now? No way to know.

I would take Kaepernick over most QBs in the league...maybe third or forth. But because the team was so bad (mediocre?) last year his rating is much lower. Give CK a great line this year and he will be one of the best in the game. He is developing a thinker skin and will hopefully be more calm and patient as he matures.

Can the season please get started!

Originally posted by thl408:
I never said anything about rankings or other stats. I'm talking about PFF ratings and how people use them to compare players to one another, something you 'have no problem with'. You mention context and that's exactly what I'm getting at. The huge context that is missing when using PFF ratings to compare players that don't play on the same team, that don't go head up against the same opponents. If you want to use PFF ratings to compare players to one another, go for it. Just wanted to point out a glaring context that is missing - quality of competition.

Still have no problem because I'm not looking for a bible of rankings. PFF "rates" the players by placing them in "ranking order." Not sure what you find difficult about my point of view? I find it fun to analyze, dissect and put into context...evidently you don't.

At no time do I say..."Hey, look at those ratings/ankings on PFF...aren't the great? I've included the need for context in most of my posts...if not all.

This discussion started with my criticism of PFF's lack of context and now you are pointing out to me the need for context? OK... You took one of my statements...wait for it...out of context of the conversation and seem to think I am using these ratings/rankings as meaningful on their own. Once again...OK

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

One guy in front of the center and Boone decided Martin didn't see him? Really? This was not an isolated problem last year!

Thl...I respect you as a poster so I'm going to assume we are just talking past each other. I'll leave it here and I hope I haven't offended you...you did get on my nerves!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Okay. Forget who JMartin is supposed to block. At least he blocked someone that made sense, the edge rusher that was lined up in a wide 9 technique, who if JMart didn't block, would have been completely unblocked. MMartin (center) has to be wary if the MLB blitzes.

Who is Boone supposed to block? To me, the guy that ended up coming unblocked makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Looked like he might have planted the right leg to stop his momentum. Not likely to get a call on that unless it happened continually.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Looked like he might have planted the right leg to stop his momentum. Not likely to get a call on that unless it happened continually.

his right foot hit kaep in the knee shin area and its the reason kaep fell

Seattle gets away with so much s**t

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Looked like he might have planted the right leg to stop his momentum. Not likely to get a call on that unless it happened continually.

his right foot hit kaep in the knee shin area and its the reason kaep fell

Seattle gets away with so much s**t

I think that would have been a pretty ticky-tack call, considering that the guy made contact with more than just his foot / leg.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Looked like he might have planted the right leg to stop his momentum. Not likely to get a call on that unless it happened continually.

his right foot hit kaep in the knee shin area and its the reason kaep fell

Seattle gets away with so much s**t

I think that would have been a pretty ticky-tack call, considering that the guy made contact with more than just his foot / leg.

its the only thing that touched kaep

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Disp:
That gif where Kaep gets sacked looks more like Martin blew his assignment, not Boone.

So who is supposed to block the guy that Martin blocked?

Isn't Boldin supposed to chip and go? The guy is lined up wider than their OLB.

our center and Boone weren't blocking anyone. They were holding hands.

Martin did his job, he was responsible for the outside guy

Anyone notice the leg kick/Trip on kaep ?

I agree - I think Martin did his job there. That was a tough blocking assignment, too (speed rusher lined up very wide and looping around Boldin and Davis to the outside before committing).

Regarding the other rusher's leg, I don't see anything wrong with that. He appears to be trying to make a move to the inside. Do you think extending the leg like that was illegal?

yes its called tripping

Looked like he might have planted the right leg to stop his momentum. Not likely to get a call on that unless it happened continually.

his right foot hit kaep in the knee shin area and its the reason kaep fell

Seattle gets away with so much s**t

I think that would have been a pretty ticky-tack call, considering that the guy made contact with more than just his foot / leg.

its the only thing that touched kaep

Got another angle? From that view, it looks to me like both hands contacted Kap.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Got another angle? From that view, it looks to me like both hands contacted Kap.

408 might have one

The LB/Tackles momentum doesn't even stop just a second if he did grab kaep