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Mar 12, 2016 at 10:32 AM

fropwns
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Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by Judge82Dredd:

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Exactly my point. They never did. Montana always had HOF level coaching and Steve had that level as well until the end of his career (still had elite co-ordinators). They both had elite talent around them. And STILL some 9er fans criticized them. Can you belive that? But 9er fans now paint this picture that Joe and Steve developed themselves and didn't have any coaching or an offensive scheme that didn't "catch the league sleeping". Rewriting history just to trash on Kaep. "But Joe didn't...." Joe is a HOF QB and had the best of the best. Why even bring him up...or even Steve who was terrible on a terrible team with terrible coaching. Just think a lot of 9er fans are dogs chasing their own gale.
IN the offense scheme the merit goes all for Bill Walsh.

The problem here is that Kap doesn 't really know how to play QB in NFL no matter how people insist to bring the 2011/2012 playoffs to the conversations
He is far to be a solid QB because he dont have actually solid QB skills(solid QB skills isn't throw a football 60+mph, running the ball like a Tailback)

Just a reminder Kap had a defense for 2 years that Steve Young and Montana never had.They had to do job themselves.

Did you watch Montana and Young play? Especially when the team was winning? I ask because a common myth was that the old 80s niner teams were all offense.

A few of those Niners teams had the one of best defenses in the league that year. I think one of those years they the top offense AND defense but still didn't make it to the SB.

Preach.

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Mar 12, 2016 at 10:34 AM

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jrouter4949
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Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by English:
What? When did Montana play with terrible coaching? And his O in was generally pretty good, too. Young played mostly for George Seifert so, again, I don't see how you can justify this statement.

Exactly my point. They never did. Montana always had HOF level coaching and Steve had that level as well until the end of his career (still had elite co-ordinators). They both had elite talent around them. And STILL some 9er fans criticized them. Can you belive that? But 9er fans now paint this picture that Joe and Steve developed themselves and didn't have any coaching or an offensive scheme that didn't "catch the league sleeping". Rewriting history just to trash on Kaep. "But Joe didn't...." Joe is a HOF QB and had the best of the best. Why even bring him up...or even Steve who was terrible on a terrible team with terrible coaching. Just think a lot of 9er fans are dogs chasing their own gale.

SO NOW KAP IS A HOF, this just get better and better

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM

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jrouter4949
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Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by Judge82Dredd:

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Exactly my point. They never did. Montana always had HOF level coaching and Steve had that level as well until the end of his career (still had elite co-ordinators). They both had elite talent around them. And STILL some 9er fans criticized them. Can you belive that? But 9er fans now paint this picture that Joe and Steve developed themselves and didn't have any coaching or an offensive scheme that didn't "catch the league sleeping". Rewriting history just to trash on Kaep. "But Joe didn't...." Joe is a HOF QB and had the best of the best. Why even bring him up...or even Steve who was terrible on a terrible team with terrible coaching. Just think a lot of 9er fans are dogs chasing their own gale.
IN the offense scheme the merit goes all for Bill Walsh.

The problem here is that Kap doesn 't really know how to play QB in NFL no matter how people insist to bring the 2011/2012 playoffs to the conversations
He is far to be a solid QB because he dont have actually solid QB skills(solid QB skills isn't throw a football 60+mph, running the ball like a Tailback)

Just a reminder Kap had a defense for 2 years that Steve Young and Montana never had.They had to do job themselves.

Did you watch Montana and Young play? Especially when the team was winning? I ask because a common myth was that the old 80s niner teams were all offense.

Yeah that was a myth,the 9ers had some mean defenses back in the day,Holt,M Carter, Hacksaw Lott,Hicks,C Williams, F Dean,M Hanks R Ellison I can go on but you get it an d I don`t think Blindfury was born back then and He is being Contrary to be Contrary No matter what you say or PROVE beyond a Shadow of a Doubt,He `ll still be SOK(stuck-on-kap)

[ Edited by jrouter4949 on Mar 12, 2016 at 10:46 AM ]

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM

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Judge82Dredd
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Originally posted by fropwns:
Did you watch Montana and Young play? Especially when the team was winning? I ask because a common myth was that the old 80s niner teams were all offense.

We were not all offense but our defense at the time was far from top5 like 2011/2012
Our offense was better than our defense back in the day

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:46 AM

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English
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Originally posted by aTx49er:
A few of those Niners teams had the one of best defenses in the league that year. I think one of those years they the top offense AND defense but still didn't make it to the SB.

You talking 1987? Bumma. Just unreal.

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:49 AM

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jrouter4949
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Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by Judge82Dredd:

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Exactly my point. They never did. Montana always had HOF level coaching and Steve had that level as well until the end of his career (still had elite co-ordinators). They both had elite talent around them. And STILL some 9er fans criticized them. Can you belive that? But 9er fans now paint this picture that Joe and Steve developed themselves and didn't have any coaching or an offensive scheme that didn't "catch the league sleeping". Rewriting history just to trash on Kaep. "But Joe didn't...." Joe is a HOF QB and had the best of the best. Why even bring him up...or even Steve who was terrible on a terrible team with terrible coaching. Just think a lot of 9er fans are dogs chasing their own gale.
IN the offense scheme the merit goes all for Bill Walsh.

The problem here is that Kap doesn 't really know how to play QB in NFL no matter how people insist to bring the 2011/2012 playoffs to the conversations
He is far to be a solid QB because he dont have actually solid QB skills(solid QB skills isn't throw a football 60+mph, running the ball like a Tailback)

Just a reminder Kap had a defense for 2 years that Steve Young and Montana never had.They had to do job themselves.

Did you watch Montana and Young play? Especially when the team was winning? I ask because a common myth was that the old 80s niner teams were all offense.

A few of those Niners teams had the one of best defenses in the league that year. I think one of those years they the top offense AND defense but still didn't make it to the SB.
Preach.

they lost to the Vikes that year,Anthony the WR from Michigan killed us and it was a HOME GAME the niners were 15-1 that year

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:55 AM

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jrouter4949
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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by aTx49er:
A few of those Niners teams had the one of best defenses in the league that year. I think one of those years they the top offense AND defense but still didn't make it to the SB.

You talking 1987? Bumma. Just unreal.

yep that`s the year do you remember the game the game Anthony Carter killed us here is a Link to the stats carter put up
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198801090sfo.htm

Mar 12, 2016 at 10:55 AM

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VaBeachNiner
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Originally posted by jrouter4949:
they lost to the Vikes that year,Anthony the WR from Michigan killed us and it was a HOME GAME the niners were 15-1 that year

I believe Walsh was almost fired because of that loss.

Mar 12, 2016 at 11:00 AM

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English
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Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by aTx49er:
A few of those Niners teams had the one of best defenses in the league that year. I think one of those years they the top offense AND defense but still didn't make it to the SB.

You talking 1987? Bumma. Just unreal.

yep that`s the year do you remember the game the game Anthony Carter killed us here is a Link to the stats carter put up
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198801090sfo.htm

Do I remember it? Yes, sadly, I do. That game, Roger's fumble and the Harbowl. Can't shake them.

Mar 12, 2016 at 11:34 AM

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hofer36
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Originally posted by MeddlingKids:

Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
honestly all this is being reported by Mike Silver, who i personally think is just b******tting. In the same day he reported that the trade is done with the Broncos, then after Schefter broke the Browns news, he said a trade was essentially done with the Browns, all while saying Kap may stay a 49er. I think he's just trying to break this story first and so far is failing to do so

Yeah, I'm not a big Mike Silver fan. I started following him on Twitter a couple days back in hopes of seeing some Kap to Browns trade news. After sifting through him arguing with his followers for a couple hours, I realized he doesn't really offer much value.

silver? or kaepernick?

Mar 12, 2016 at 11:45 AM

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InsertNameHere1
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Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by English:
What? When did Montana play with terrible coaching? And his O in was generally pretty good, too. Young played mostly for George Seifert so, again, I don't see how you can justify this statement.

Exactly my point. They never did. Montana always had HOF level coaching and Steve had that level as well until the end of his career (still had elite co-ordinators). They both had elite talent around them. And STILL some 9er fans criticized them. Can you belive that? But 9er fans now paint this picture that Joe and Steve developed themselves and didn't have any coaching or an offensive scheme that didn't "catch the league sleeping". Rewriting history just to trash on Kaep. "But Joe didn't...." Joe is a HOF QB and had the best of the best. Why even bring him up...or even Steve who was terrible on a terrible team with terrible coaching. Just think a lot of 9er fans are dogs chasing their own gale.
SO NOW KAP IS A HOF, this just get better and better

When did anyone say that?

Mar 12, 2016 at 12:03 PM

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