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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
According to Young, Kaepernick needs to learn to read through his progressions and become a pocket passer. Young thinks that should be the primary focus of Kaepernick's offseason.

"That's going to be a very difficult thing for Colin to master. He's going to have to tie his legs in training camp. Literally, he should tie his legs, physically, so he can't do anything but throw from the pocket," Young said.




"OK, so first of all the guy is a hard-working guy," Young said of Kaepernick. "He just works really hard on the things he's already good at. But I know that he works hard. But … it's dealing with the things that make you more of a complete player.



The question needs to be rephrased because, to me, Colin is the one that needs to resurrect his career. Colin is the one that faded. Did not react. Did not steel himself and has to learn those lessons. It's a tough, tough, brutal business. And you cannot take any exits. You have to hang in there and face it. So there are parts of it that he needs to go do, regardless of a coach. And that's in the locker room. That's with his teammates. That's with how he handles the challenges




Said Young: "If I were Colin Kaepernick, I would go to Chip Kelly and tell him, 'Whatever happened last year, whatever you saw, whatever you saw was a weakness in my game and cracks in the wall, I'm going to fix.

'I made some mistakes. I lost the team a little bit. I lost the locker room a little bit. I didn't respond to adversity. But I figured it out. And I've got the talent and ability to make your offense hum.'"

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Originally posted by mojave45:
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Originally posted by pd24:
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Ha....typical Zone speak. Discredit every beat writer that disagrees with you and when in blows up in your face, pretend it never happened. 60 percent of you guys shouldn't even been posting this year based on last years complete facepalm defending the FO....lol
What about most nfl personalities and scouts that have been on record saying Kap isn't very good and can't usually go past 1 read and can't read a defense? Should we believe TK over actual football experts?

Most?
Ya most, there is rarely anyone in the national media that thinks Kap is good and Casserley always comes on the radio the day after games and usually says Kap isn't very good but says it in a nice way

Where can I see the records of what most of the NFL scouts have said about Kaepernick? I would love to read the comments.
TIA

Just Google
NFL scouting reports Colin Kaepernick

The top Google result that came back was: "Hyperbole"
Here is what I got from NFL.com

Overview

Kaepernick has enough physical tools to be viewed as a developmental backup quarterback prospect. Experienced, competitive, productive and durable but very raw in terms of making NFL reads and throws. Will need to become accustomed to making pro-style progressions and must improve overall accuracy.
Originally posted by fropwns:
And it is moot. It is done. It is over. Wormer dropped the big one. Here is another one for you to counter your point: Trent Dilfer gooed himself when talking about Kaep during the MNF game against the Vikings. Same time period. A couple weeks later, Kaep laid a turd against the Tards. So, when you say for two years, you are not exactly correct. Has there been criticism? Sure. But not all were ready to bail on CK.


Yep. I had to turn the volume down the way Dilfer was drooling all over himself.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by titan:
So you think if a team trades for him they won't make him the starter? Theres no damage relationship between him and Chip! He is a professional, though he is not acting like one, but a hurt feeling report is apparently enough to justify poor attitude.

It's the organization. I think he'd probably like to work with Chip, just not the organization. Doesn't trust them. And OK, if you feel he has a poor attitude then I don't even know if there's a word in the English language to explain the organization's attitude.

So, the organization can do whatever they want and that's OK but people want to get all up in arms when the player wants to move on? Didn't you people want him gone anyways?

I actually liked Kap. I wanted to see him succeed with our new coach. I feel that Chip's offense would benefit Kap.
I thought it was suspect yesterday on how Baalke suddenly was willing to speak to KNBR and declared how Kap would be around April 1st. It's hard to believe he didn't hear about this. Baalke typically doesn't answer questions directly so I'm thinking he is going to spin this that the team will accommodate Kaps wishes.

It's unfortunate that Kap wants to leave the team he said was his childhood team, versus prove to us he was going to fight to keep the job and get better. Maybe he wore out his welcome, overdid his image, and screwed up the guy code in the locker room. He still had potential and could of set things straight, but if this really is it, then you don't want to force someone to stay around if he doesn't want to be here. If he really wants to go to NY to be near his GF,or market his brand better, than maybe that 'what if' trade for Wilkinson could be a option.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
I thought it was suspect yesterday on how Baalke suddenly was willing to speak to KNBR and declared how Kap would be around April 1st. It's hard to believe he didn't hear about this. Baalke typically doesn't answer questions directly so I'm thinking he is going to spin this that the team will accommodate Kaps wishes.

It's unfortunate that Kap wants to leave the team he said was his childhood team, versus prove to us he was going to fight to keep the job and get better. Maybe he wore out his welcome, overdid his image, and screwed up the guy code in the locker room. He still had potential and could of set things straight, but if this really is it, then you don't want to force someone to stay around if he doesn't want to be here. If he really wants to go to NY to be near his GF,or market his brand better, than maybe that 'what if' trade for Wilkinson could be a option.

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Originally posted by Blindfury:
I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.

Just effing give it up already. If you aren't familiar with the bevy of Kap critics from ex players, to recognized experts, to NFL talking heads then you been living under a rock.

It's a hell of a lot easier to find negative about Kap from all the types of sources I mentioned than it is to find positives. Dont believe me just try....
[ Edited by WINiner on Feb 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM ]
Originally posted by facestabber:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
How about the jackass HC that quit on the team and abandoned the strength of the team on the biggest drive on his career?

If we can get a 3rd round pick or better for Kaep then by all means they need to do it.

Harbaughs legacy of taking a losing franchise back to relevance will long be remembered over Kap. Don't believe me just seek out fans of other teams and get their opinion on Harbaugh and Kap.
I was fine with Kap staying this season in the hopes that Kelly could restart the kid. But he just quit on you, me and the rest of 49er fans and teammates. Do yourself a favor and pitch his jersey in the trash

You're so full of s**t.

I've never said I was a Kaep fan. If he doesn't want to be here, get rid of him. He needs us and owes us a whole lot more than we need him. The only jerseys I own right now are a throwback Willis and Gore.

Saying that Harbaugh was more to blame for the super bowl loss than Kaep does not make me a fan boy.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.

Just effing give it up already. If you aren't familiar with the bevy of Kap critics from ex players, to recognized experts, to NFL talking heads then you been living under a rock.

It's a hell of a lot easier to find negative abot Kap from all the types of sources I mentioned than it is ro find positives. Dont believe me just try....

Pretty sure 2012-2013 speaks for itself.
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
I thought it was suspect yesterday on how Baalke suddenly was willing to speak to KNBR and declared how Kap would be around April 1st. It's hard to believe he didn't hear about this. Baalke typically doesn't answer questions directly so I'm thinking he is going to spin this that the team will accommodate Kaps wishes.

It's unfortunate that Kap wants to leave the team he said was his childhood team, versus prove to us he was going to fight to keep the job and get better. Maybe he wore out his welcome, overdid his image, and screwed up the guy code in the locker room. He still had potential and could of set things straight, but if this really is it, then you don't want to force someone to stay around if he doesn't want to be here. If he really wants to go to NY to be near his GF,or market his brand better, than maybe that 'what if' trade for Wilkinson could be a option.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14067004/the-key-futures-bengals-qb-andy-dalton-panthers-qb-cam-newton-49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick

I love Googleing Kap, you find so much stuff on how bad he is
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Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.

Just effing give it up already. If you aren't familiar with the bevy of Kap critics from ex players, to recognized experts, to NFL talking heads then you been living under a rock.

It's a hell of a lot easier to find negative abot Kap from all the types of sources I mentioned than it is ro find positives. Dont believe me just try....

Pretty sure 2012-2013 speaks for itself.
Well it isn't those years. Present day, he sucks.
Kap wants traded! (Mods this deserves it's own thread, please don't lock)


^^^ That thread title in Ninertalk made me lol so hard The "please dont lock"
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
I thought it was suspect yesterday on how Baalke suddenly was willing to speak to KNBR and declared how Kap would be around April 1st. It's hard to believe he didn't hear about this. Baalke typically doesn't answer questions directly so I'm thinking he is going to spin this that the team will accommodate Kaps wishes.

It's unfortunate that Kap wants to leave the team he said was his childhood team, versus prove to us he was going to fight to keep the job and get better. Maybe he wore out his welcome, overdid his image, and screwed up the guy code in the locker room. He still had potential and could of set things straight, but if this really is it, then you don't want to force someone to stay around if he doesn't want to be here. If he really wants to go to NY to be near his GF,or market his brand better, than maybe that 'what if' trade for Wilkinson could be a option.

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This is obviously what should happen...
Originally posted by btthepunk:
This is obviously what should happen...

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