Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I wonder if the team will ask him to restructure like Alex had to and prove his worth from backup to earning a starter job/contact again.

Otherwise, there won't be a fair competition when one guy is making $11.9M and the other, 6 times less.

CK will certainly be given the ball and would have to really tank to lose it.

Alex had proven nothing at the time of the restructure. Give me a break. The money means nothing. I don't get why it's such a big deal. Is it keeping the team from improving? Did the team do anything with the extra cap space they had this season? The money is just a way for some haters to justify in their minds that Kaep has to go.

So basically 9ers: "Hey Kaep, we're going to pay you less than the open market value so we can sign other players to improve the team. We won't sign anyone, give you a crap line, a crap HC, get you injured because of their incompetence, leak a bunch of BS stories about you and then ask you to restructure even though your salary isn't keeping us from signing anyone" C'mon.

Did you just imply $11.9M in cap space means nothing? Ummm...what? That is a VERY significant amount of space. We didn't have extra space last year as Baalke was gearing up to pay Aldon $90M and Anthony Davis hadn't of quit yet. Torrey Smith was about all we could muster for quality signings.

The fact that the FO has not communicated once to CK during this entire hiring process also speaks volumes.

Most here don't HATE CK by any means but are objective enough to look at teams needs over the love for just him.

From a FO perspective, they may be looking at Gabbert as a slightly better option at 1/6th the cost. That's just business. Nothing more.

Sure we're in position to afford a $12M backup (worst case scenario).

But if they are serious about signing some big names at RDE, OLB and WR or CB, that cap disappears really quickly.

I think your LOVE for CK is trumping a potential business decision. One that may be best for the team.

Also, don't forget CK signed a "prove it" contract. Every year he either proves it and earns maximum money or we can cut him. Asking him now, AFTER he was benched, to restructure down to a more cap friendly but more secure contact, isn't unreasonable. It's smart business.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Just want what's best for the team

Me too.

I would like to see Kap excel in this offense, but if he can't, I feel comfortable with Gabbert. We'll see, may the best man win.

Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Originally posted by Niners418:
Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

This would be ideal.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

This would be ideal.

Keep the amount the same, but flip the %'s on guaranteed/ incentives like what Aldon did

kaep the hot hand going....

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

Yes but only if he re-works his deal like you said and also re-works his head.

There's no question in my mind his head is holding him back and I'm not talking about that he can't read a defense. I'm talking about ever since that Arizona game he just didn't trust in what he was seeing and it totally screwed him up.

He needs a reboot...imo the best way for that to happen is going to another team. However if he sits down with Chip and believes in his system and Chip believes that Kap can run it after spending time with him..then maybe we can see a guy who was so dangerous in 2012 season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

This would be ideal.

Keep the amount the same, but flip the %'s on guaranteed/ incentives like what Aldon did

Exactly. There's lot of ways for CK and the FO to work this out. CK has been spotted at the facility rehabbing yet if the FO saw CK as the Franchise QB, they'd include him in the HC search. And they didn't.

Eli Manning basically hand picked his own HC.

The NFL doesn't need to get into the NBA realm where the star quarterbacks opinion gets to factor in the decision making process.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Did you just imply $11.9M in cap space means nothing? Ummm...what? That is a VERY significant amount of space. We didn't have extra space last year as Baalke was gearing up to pay Aldon $90M and Anthony Davis hadn't of quit yet. Torrey Smith was about all we could muster for quality signings.

The fact that the FO has not communicated once to CK during this entire hiring process also speaks volumes.

Most here don't HATE CK by any means but are objective enough to look at teams needs over the love for just him.

From a FO perspective, they may be looking at Gabbert as a slightly better option at 1/6th the cost. That's just business. Nothing more.

Sure we're in position to afford a $12M backup (worst case scenario).

But if they are serious about signing some big names at RDE, OLB and WR or CB, that cap disappears really quickly.

I think your LOVE for CK is trumping a potential business decision. One that may be best for the team.

Also, don't forget CK signed a "prove it" contract. Every year he either proves it and earns maximum money or we can cut him. Asking him now, AFTER he was benched, to restructure down to a more cap friendly but more secure contact, isn't unreasonable. It's smart business.

He is making 11.9M so where are you getting cap space from? Please tell me how Kaep's salary limited the team this season and how it will limit it next season. Please, explain that to me young man.

Originally posted by genus49:

Yes but only if he re-works his deal like you said and also re-works his head.

There's no question in my mind his head is holding him back and I'm not talking about that he can't read a defense. I'm talking about ever since that Arizona game he just didn't trust in what he was seeing and it totally screwed him up.

He needs a reboot...imo the best way for that to happen is going to another team. However if he sits down with Chip and believes in his system and Chip believes that Kap can run it after spending time with him..then maybe we can see a guy who was so dangerous in 2012 season.

This. He'd be very wise to invest in a top notch sports psychologist. I don't mean that in ANY negative way.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. There's lot of ways for CK and the FO to work this out. CK has been spotted at the facility rehabbing yet if the FO saw CK as the Franchise QB, they'd include him in the HC search. And they didn't.

Eli Manning basically hand picked his own HC.

Dude you need to stop with this stuff. So much speculation from you. Since when is a QB going to have a say in a HC search? C'mon.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by genus49:
Yes but only if he re-works his deal like you said and also re-works his head.

There's no question in my mind his head is holding him back and I'm not talking about that he can't read a defense. I'm talking about ever since that Arizona game he just didn't trust in what he was seeing and it totally screwed him up.

He needs a reboot...imo the best way for that to happen is going to another team. However if he sits down with Chip and believes in his system and Chip believes that Kap can run it after spending time with him..then maybe we can see a guy who was so dangerous in 2012 season.

This. He'd be very wise to invest in a top notch sports psychologist. I don't mean that in ANY negative way.

He used to be so confident

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Best thing possible for this team is Kap is traded or cut. Gabbert is a better fit in this offense and the cap savings with Kap could go a long ways to rebuilding the roster

Aren't you curious at all to see what Kap can do in Chip's offense?

He does need to redo his deal however.

This would be ideal.

Keep the amount the same, but flip the %'s on guaranteed/ incentives like what Aldon did

Exactly. There's lot of ways for CK and the FO to work this out. CK has been spotted at the facility rehabbing yet if the FO saw CK as the Franchise QB, they'd include him in the HC search. And they didn't.

Eli Manning basically hand picked his own HC.

Eli didn't go outside the organization, he could have just been lazy to learn a new offense