Colin Kaepernick Thread

So most of the post here are pretty much insinuating that we are gonna be terrible for the next 3-5 years. Draft a young guy , let an older vet get killed behind our crappy oline. So in a few years we can play the high draft pick . Awesome job front office , spectacular. So that will be goin on 20 years of bad football. The Yorks regime, 5 winning seasons in 15 years. Just an absolute terrible ownership family, maybe the worst in sports, but hey we got a really boring new stadium to be bad in. So we got that goin for us.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by LaMattsBlue:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Eric Branch ‏@Eric_Branch 16m16 minutes ago

Update: Colin Kaepernick will speak with the media later in the week. #49ers

Dude is about to spit some venom Lowell and Gran'ts way.

LOL no he wont.

It will be "I dont worry about what people think about me. I just play the best i can. I give 100% to this team each week. Mechanics are not important. I worry about people opinions less than i worry about my mechanics."

Nah, he coming out firing. I hope he does. Not at the team, but at the media. Whip down his pants and tell Grant to suck on these.

I think it's best that Kap move on after this season.

Even when he had a great OL with a great running game his flaws were there. You can see it from game one. He has virtually no touch on anything downfield with the vast majority of his completed passes the receivers having to make route adjustments just to catch it thus eliminating anything after the catch. He had no feel for the sideline with many of his passes that could have been completed just sailing out of bounds. He doesn't use the pocket when it is there often rolling out of it into tacklers. He has NEVER had the ability to survey the field often locking onto one target which got him into trouble. No feel for the play clock. No feel for game urgency. Once in each of the last two seasons facing a 4th down with no chance to get the ball back he threw the ball away out of bounds instead of trying to make something happen, anything! Even the rookiest of QB's know you have to try something, even force it if you must. If not for Harbaugh understanding his weaknesses and compensating heavily for it he would have been benched a long time ago. I think the only reason he took over for Alex that season was Harbaugh recognized the NFL was ill equipped to handle the read option and was hoping to ride this gimmick to a SB win, fully knowing it was a one time gamble if they couldn't teach him pocket awareness. Unfortunately Kap's weaknesses reared their ugly heads in the SB and that is why we didn't get the win. I believe Harbaugh left knowing that Kap and the Niners were about to enter a free fall and didn't want to taint his reputation any further, actually quite smart. If Kap would have developed into a manageable pocket passer and the team had a chance to make more playoff runs I think it would have been a lot harder to get him to leave.

Don't get me wrong, he is one of the most physically gifted players to be at QB but he hasn't shown the ability to be a QB. To be a QB you have to consistently show you can make those plays that you need to win not just flashes that we have seen from Kap, season after season. If he were a date, he would be known as a tease!

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
A song that reminds you what you are...

A whisper of what once was.

Yup

a whisper of once is

"I mean, stuff happens," Smith said. "I don't really know what to say. First of all, it's a run play. It wasn't a pass play. So he's not going to be staring out there at us. But he normally glances out there, takes a peek. We just missed an opportunity on that one. That's how the season's been going."

yeah it was weird.... I think being backed back up against the goal line had Kap tunnel visioned.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

"I mean, stuff happens," Smith said. "I don't really know what to say. First of all, it's a run play. It wasn't a pass play. So he's not going to be staring out there at us. But he normally glances out there, takes a peek. We just missed an opportunity on that one. That's how the season's been going."

yeah it was weird.... I think being backed back up against the goal line had Kap tunnel visioned.

I've been really impressed by Torrey Smith so far. He is really a good team mate and well spoken. Kaepernick is lucky to have him instead of Crabtree.

Originally posted by boast:

Kap is garbage

Bro! The politically correct term is "waste"!!!!

I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

It may be too late for Sanchez to recover his career as a starter. It may not be too late for Kaep. That might be the difference. But I see the similarity as you stated. They are both mentally damaged at this point.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

I won't speak for others...but even before it was announced that Kap was benched... I as well said that he should be benched if the coaching staff was going to stick with the same Oline. I felt there was no benefit to anyone (including Kap) if we stuck with him and this Oline.

If we changed the Oline and Kap played bad...then again, would agree with a benching....for the team's sake and moral. (not Guaranteeing Gabbert would do better, but atleast to let the players know that we are trying)

as far as Mark Sanchez and Kap... you might have to help me remember some of his playoff wins. Scenarios and such.

In Kap's playoff wins, on more than one occasion, he had no running game..and had to perform/beat those playoff teams with his arm..and sometimes his legs. As well as situations where the defense didn't play well.

In the Playoffs, Kap had crucial drives that put us ahead, kept us ahead (Against Rodgers never ending will) or helped bring us back at a chance to win games.

So I don't think Sanchez would be a good comparison to Kap.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

Come on now Ticket! Anyone who disagrees with you is an emotional homer? I have no idea if Kaepernick will sit out one or two games and come back to become a great QB, or if he moves on and never meets his potential. Not knowable at the moment, but to pretend you are of the insightful crowd and anyone who disagrees is a goofball...

Edit: I have no problem with benching CK by the way. Glad the coaches are trying to do something. Just wish they had started with the OL first.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

Great comparison! Both looked good at one point, but were ultimately products of a great defense and run game. Not saying they are bad QBs, just that they need most things around them to be clicking well to succeed.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

I won't speak for others...but even before it was announced that Kap was benched... I as well said that he should be benched if the coaching staff was going to stick with the same Oline. I felt there was no benefit to anyone (including Kap) if we stuck with him and this Oline.

If we changed the Oline and Kap played bad...then again, would agree with a benching....for the team's sake and moral. (not Guaranteeing Gabbert would do better, but atleast to let the players know that we are trying)

as far as Mark Sanchez and Kap... you might have to help me remember some of his playoff wins. Scenarios and such.

In Kap's playoff wins, on more than one occasion, he had no running game..and had to perform/beat those playoff teams with his arm..and sometimes his legs. As well as situations where the defense didn't play well.

In the Playoffs, Kap had crucial drives that put us ahead, kept us ahead (Against Rodgers never ending will) or helped bring us back at a chance to win games.

So I don't think Sanchez would be a good comparison to Kap.

Afrikans still the man, Before i got banned i always enjoyed your take on football even though weve disagreed more than once since ive come back!

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I'm just happy the front office sees what alot of us who aren't emotionally attached see.

I've said it in another thread but I think it deserves to be in this one. Homers are saying kap shouldn't of been benched, he took us to the bowl and an NFC championship game. If you say these things, then you must agree that mark Sanchez carried his team to two conescutive afc championship appearances, and also has thrown for more yds and tds in a season than kap has yet. But where is Sanchez? He's a back up qb behind a struggling Bradford. He became starter, hailed as afc candidate and was thought to be a future elite. They lost there defense and the entire league came to realize Sanchez defense and run game hid his struggles and bad quarterback skills. When he lost his elite defense and run game he turned into complete crap. The entire league agrees and if they didnt he'd be starting somewhere. So whats the difference between kap and Sanchez? Nothing. That's the reason he's benched .

Come on now Ticket! Anyone who disagrees with you is an emotional homer? I have no idea if Kaepernick will sit out one or two games and come back to become a great QB, or if he moves on and never meets his potential. Not knowable at the moment, but to pretend you are of the insightful crowd and anyone who disagrees is a goofball...

Edit: I have no problem with benching CK by the way. Glad the coaches are trying to do something. Just wish they had started with the OL first.

nah heck no! Alot of ppl disagree with me, and I find there points very valid I personally just would like to see the team head in a different direction. Its the very tiny few that are just kap homers that im referring to in that tiny bit of post. And im definitly not of any insightful crowd. I try to go to the games as often as i can, So I can only go off of what I see/read/hear. And then that reflects onto my own personal opinion and what I believe is best for the 49ers.

I personally just have seen people recognize kap alot more than our defense/run game as being the reason as why we were so dominant in 2012-2013. but if you add in 2011, i think it just shows where the true recognition lies, and thats with our D and run game. I thought of Sanchez and honestly felt like it was a great comparison, i even had him on a couple of my dynasty fantasy leagues so i followed him closely and the situation he was in reminds me alot of kap in 2012-2013.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

It may be too late for Sanchez to recover his career as a starter. It may not be too late for Kaep. That might be the difference. But I see the similarity as you stated. They are both mentally damaged at this point.

If it's too late for Sanchez, then it's too late for Kaep.

Personally I think Sanchez is done as a starter. And Kaep will be out of the league in 3 years tops. He's struggling to make the simplest of reads. Reminds me of Vince Young