Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by Stud:

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Lets see, Carr has a monster #1 receiver, arguably the best pass blocking oline in the league and a run game. I've been watching the Raiders quite a bit and the guy has so much time to throw. He was pretty decent in his 1st year (no one was clamorring for him) got a proper head coach, an improved line, some receivers and a running game and wow...he's better? Or does it have anything to do with the fact that Bill Musgrave his OC actually has experience with 5 diferent teams while Geep has no experience besides his stint with San Diego who was absolute trash? Shocking!


Line? Carr
OC? Carr
Receivers? Carr
Running game? Carr
Coaching staff? Carr

I'd say Carr has much better pieces around him and it's not close.

BWAHAHAHA. There you are, coming with your typical Kapscuses. Why the hell are you so in love with Kap? An obsession.

What is wrong with his assessment Stud? I think it is pretty fair. Carr does have a much better line and coaching staff. I don't see anything in his post saying Kap is an all pro QB and a much, much better QB than Carr. Just an acknowledgement that Carr has a much better supporting cast.

This is coming from a guy that thinks Carr will be and is a very good QB.

Those calling for Bradford...he is sadly worse. If we take him for Kap I want picks in return.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Any football fan who knows anything saw Carr last season and knew that he had more base knowledge of the QB position than Kap has. He had no pieces and still looked better than kap. I saw it, brought it up, and was knocked by all the s**t sippers here. It was comical.

Any football fan knows that a QB can not be successful with a bad line, no running game and and a terrible offensive scheme. Anyone with sense can admit that the OC is bad, the line is bad and the running game is bad. Please find me a QB who is consistently good with all of these things.

Gabbert must suck so bad when they wont even bring him in to replace Kap.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
i don't give a f**k if you have "permission" to change the play or not. if you see that and you don't rise up and chuck the ball out there you're a f**king idiot. i know kap isn't getting much help, but he's playing like f**king garbage even with all the bad things around him. unbelieveable

This...CK is so tightly wound right now he can't see the forest for the trees. I can't imagine too many QBs would have missed a wide open receiver like that but it's a clue to just where he is in his development.

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by Stud:

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Lets see, Carr has a monster #1 receiver, arguably the best pass blocking oline in the league and a run game. I've been watching the Raiders quite a bit and the guy has so much time to throw. He was pretty decent in his 1st year (no one was clamorring for him) got a proper head coach, an improved line, some receivers and a running game and wow...he's better? Or does it have anything to do with the fact that Bill Musgrave his OC actually has experience with 5 diferent teams while Geep has no experience besides his stint with San Diego who was absolute trash? Shocking!


Line? Carr
OC? Carr
Receivers? Carr
Running game? Carr
Coaching staff? Carr

I'd say Carr has much better pieces around him and it's not close.

BWAHAHAHA. There you are, coming with your typical Kapscuses. Why the hell are you so in love with Kap? An obsession.

What is wrong with his assessment Stud? I think it is pretty fair. Carr does have a much better line and coaching staff. I don't see anything in his post saying Kap is an all pro QB and a much, much better QB than Carr. Just an acknowledgement that Carr has a much better supporting cast.

This is coming from a guy that thinks Carr will be and is a very good QB.

Sorry, it's not necessarily his assessment, it's the fact every single one of his 100 posts have been in this thread defending Kap on everything. The guy can do no wrong. So I'm getting a kick out of his consistent White Knighting for Kap. Even after Kap has looked like crap the last 2 weeks.

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Lets see, Carr has a monster #1 receiver, arguably the best pass blocking oline in the league and a run game. I've been watching the Raiders quite a bit and the guy has so much time to throw. He was pretty decent in his 1st year (no one was clamorring for him) got a proper head coach, an improved line, some receivers and a running game and wow...he's better? Or does it have anything to do with the fact that Bill Musgrave his OC actually has experience with 5 diferent teams while Geep has no experience besides his stint with San Diego who was absolute trash? Shocking!


Line? Carr
OC? Carr
Receivers? Carr
Running game? Carr
Coaching staff? Carr

I'd say Carr has much better pieces around him and it's not close.

Carr is making all of those things better by his superior football IQ and ability.

That having been said, I would given the Raider OL a slight advantage but that advantage is enhanced by Carr's ability to QUICKLY find the open receiver and not make the OL hold the blocks for 5 seconds.

OC - Musgrave clearly appears to be better but a sloppy QB with low football IQ is going to make any OC look bad.

Receivers - Clearly Cooper is better but Kaepernick had Crabtree and Bolding last season and stunk almost as bad as he has this year. Again, the gap is not that great but CK's poor play makes it look greater.

Run game - Hyde is better than Murray. PERIOD!!!

Coaching staff - advantage Oakland but last season the 49ers were clearly a better staff and Kaepernick was having the very same problems he has had this year.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Those calling for Bradford...he is sadly worse. If we take him for Kap I want picks in return.

Bradford is an average QB. I don't want him in a Niners uniform. He is not a long term answer and I'm not sure I'd want him for picks. I'd really rather see what Gabbert has to offer than watch Bradford.

Two receivers uncovered and he runs it...lol. Dude is sponge Bob dumb.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Any football fan who knows anything saw Carr last season and knew that he had more base knowledge of the QB position than Kap has. He had no pieces and still looked better than kap. I saw it, brought it up, and was knocked by all the s**t sippers here. It was comical.

Any football fan knows that a QB can not be successful with a bad line, no running game and and a terrible offensive scheme. Anyone with sense can admit that the OC is bad, the line is bad and the running game is bad. Please find me a QB who is consistently good with all of these things.

Are you saying that LAST YEAR you saw Carr and thought that "kap is better than this guy".
LAST YEAR he was getting blasted by the opposing defense and I could still see that he had a better football IQ than Kap.

I guess you can either see it or you can't.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
One again Do Not Care...if you have even a shred of situational awareness and a scintilla of back bone you throw that f**king ball get your free TD and say "sorry coach" when you get to the sideline. There is zero and I mean zero excuse for an alleged professional to run that play in that situation.

This is not how football works. If you do not have authority to audible then you just don't do it. If he has the authority then by all means let him have it but I find that people here are wildly unreasonable and in true pack mentality Kaep is the whipping boy so everything will be amplified to criticize him. It happened to the last QB and will happen to the next one.

Originally posted by dj43:
Carr is making all of those things better by his superior football IQ and ability.

That having been said, I would given the Raider OL a slight advantage but that advantage is enhanced by Carr's ability to QUICKLY find the open receiver and not make the OL hold the blocks for 5 seconds.

OC - Musgrave clearly appears to be better but a sloppy QB with low football IQ is going to make any OC look bad.

Receivers - Clearly Cooper is better but Kaepernick had Crabtree and Bolding last season and stunk almost as bad as he has this year. Again, the gap is not that great but CK's poor play makes it look greater.

Run game - Hyde is better than Murray. PERIOD!!!

Coaching staff - advantage Oakland but last season the 49ers were clearly a better staff and Kaepernick was having the very same problems he has had this year.

You dont get it bro Blindfury doesnt realize that quarterbacks can elevate a O-line's performance. I dont know if hes never played football or hasnt been around long enough but its like talking to a brick wall. Hes either A. really emotionally invested into Kaep or B. his posts are just telling all of us he doesnt understand football.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

i don't give a f**k if you have "permission" to change the play or not. if you see that and you don't rise up and chuck the ball out there you're a f**king idiot. i know kap isn't getting much help, but he's playing like f**king garbage even with all the bad things around him. unbelieveable

And there is no "change the play". Hike the ball the throw the s**t. You dont need to audible to do that. How you miss that as an nfl qb is just mind jarring.

Kaepernick is the best player on the whole freak'n team and people are focusing on him?

He has Jerome freak'n Simpson out there starting at WR, a practice squad guy at RB, the worst o-line in the league, Vernon is old and washed up, Torrey Smith is a one trick pony with bad hands.

Tom Brady couldn't save this sad roster.

Originally posted by Jimbutsu:


He has Jerome freak'n Simpson out there starting at WR, a practice squad guy at RB, the worst o-line in the league, Vernon is old and washed up, Torrey Smith is a one trick pony with bad hands.

Tom Brady couldn't save this sad roster.

HAHAHAH. I thought this was sarcasm until I saw the rest of your post.