Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
One alternative would have been to keep Trent Brown for at least another year and draft McGlinchey (who would play guard) . Shanahan would have had to brace himself for a player who didn't fully meet his requirements, but he'd have an improved OL to protect his qbs.
How do you know he can play guard? I thought we were tired of playing people out of position.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
This.
Even if they took Risner in the second we're still complaining about the disaster of having Skule as the swing tackle, and instead of complaining about interior Oline depth we're complaining about how they still haven't addressed the lack of talent at WR.
We can't have it both ways.
Fair. You'd still need to find a quality T after Coleman went down. That was just unfortunate. Find an older veteran with some talent/experience in the system. Or have drafted a mid level T (over the past 3 years) who's been developed for a few years and is ready to step in.
I think the only feasible fix to that was to pay average starter money to someone to play swing tackle. That doesn't bother me given the money dolled out to AA, Ward, McKinnon, and Smith over the years. The only problem is that it could become a problem in the future when it comes to signing other Oline guys once you start giving a backup starter money. But the reality is, that's about the only way we could've insured adequate depth at that spot. As for drafting, you have to keep in mind, they have had to draft every position since they got here. Every single one. They were rebuilding a team. You can't cover every single position, not even in 3 years. But let's just say they did do that. For example, if there were no Joe Williams pick and they drafted an Oline guy in that spot. If that pick didn't pan out, people would still be complaining.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Even if they took Risner in the second we're still complaining about the disaster of having Skule as the swing tackle, and instead of complaining about interior Oline depth we're complaining about how they still haven't addressed the lack of talent at WR.
We can't have it both ways.
Risner could play tackle as well as guard. Without Deebo, the team would still have added Matthews and Hurd. But instead of Risner, they added Skule.
Or the team could have picked an OLineman instead of Hurd or Wishnowsky. He may not have been a starter, but likely would be more talented and ready than Skule as a backup.
Not that I'm okay with our poor O-line, but you'd rather have Matthews than Samuel? Matthews who wasn't even among our top 3 receivers. I'll take Deebo. I wish they would've traded down and still ended up with their guys along with some more rookies along the O-line, but after the 2nd, I doubt anyone would've helped much this year.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
So are you guys saying theres nothing wrong with the current oline and you're confident and happy with the current line? To me, its pretty worrisome that we havent added some quality depth especially with jimmy coming off an injury.
On a 53 that's carrying 7 WRs for a squad that runs mostly 21 personnel, along with 3 QB and 4 TEs. Folks are just deflecting to cover the ridiculous at this point. There's no way you can justify this depth chart given the issues we're having on the OL. Starters aren't even healthy yet we're carrying extras in areas where those players won't even dress and those who do at their position won't have any impact. And to imply this personnel configuration is "normal" is both laughable and sad.
But again, the over-explanation and the deflection doesn't even age well. Flip back a few pages and the same people deflecting we're just saying 72 hours ago how "keeping 7 WRs makes no sense."
Lol NinerTalk.
I don't think they make it to week 9 with seven receivers. Someone is getting traded (preferably) or cut. Is Arizona even carrying 7? The same could go for TE, although the odd man out in that position group is likely cut. Both are gone the moment a viable talent at a position of need (O-line) becomes available. We probably could add CJ Beathard to that list as well. I think KS/JL are hoping that we can survive the storm (facing a Todd Bowles defense is an early test). I'm hoping before the trade deadline we can move AA, Beathard, Bourne, and if we are lucky, Celek.
Now we have seen some O-line movement across the league the last few days. Save for the Laremy Tunsil trade, which was robbery, I wonder what's everyone's thoughts on the players involved.
