49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by elguapo:

Wow. Guess you were right NC. I really hoped to get an interior OL

One of the many times I hate being right.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I guess it is possible that the Cardinals sniped us and got the offensive linemen that we were targetting.

Based on this years inactivity, it's just as likely ShanaLynch have been playing golf all morning.

sounds like a great 3 day weekend

Originally posted by hello49:

Ridiculous! Probably missed on some great prospects, especially when we had the second choice of anyone...

If they were a great prospect wouldnt they have made their teams 53?

I really dont see the point of swapping our crappy backups for different crappy backups.

According to Maiocco, Cards made 5 waiver claims, and 49ers didn't even make one waiver claim....and none of the guys we released were claimed. Might indicate that Shannalynch might be highly overvaluing our players..

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

People keep pretending like if you keep using high draft picks on OL that the problem would just go away on its own through virtue of sheer talent but go back through the draft the past three years, look at how many guys are struggling right now or playing at or even slightly below replacement value.



The Browns have invested a s**t ton of $$ and picks into their OL over the past 5 years and they are still having issues despite having picked some good prospects that people here would have been psyched to have.



Austin Corbett was an early 2nd round pick a year ago, 33rd pick in the draft, an expected 10 year starter and they are already talking about replacing him in Cleveland because he couldn't block a drunk, one legged hooker from hopping past him into church on a Sunday.



https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/18/opinion-time-for-the-browns-to-bail-on-austin-corbett/





Finding OL is tough. There are about 32 teams that could stand to improve and practically everyone is one bad injury away from having major issues. There just aren't enough good linemen nowadays to go around. OL, especially tackles, were some of the most bust-proof of positions 20 years ago but nowadays that is no longer true. You could draft well regarded prospects in the 1st and 2nd round for three years straight and still have a crap OL, especially when picking out of the Top 10.


So when I hear people talking about "well all they needed to do was use a few more high draft picks and everything would be just dandy", I'm not so sure. Teams are missing on OL all over the place and I think the main reason why is that many colleges are no longer properly developing them.



It is something that Mark Schlereth and many others have been harping on for years. When Bill Polian signed up for the AAF, his intended goal was to make it a place where you could properly develop QBs and OL, both of which aren't getting taught right in the college game right now.



This team currently has 3 former 1st rounders and an early 2nd as part of their starting lineup. Talent is really not an issue. I don't doubt that they want to further upgrade the position but it also comes down to who is available.




Should they have taken an OL instead of Bosa? Samuel? Which OL should they have gone for instead of Hurd? Its not just about stacking the position with bodies but finding talent that you feel really good about. Last year there was a major run on OL from the mid first to the early 2nd. By the time they got up to draft Pettis, basically any starter quality prospects were gone. This year it was a lot of the same so you were either skipping out on Bosa or Samuel if you wanted to bring in someone that potentially might be a day one starter which at least in the short term is the only thing that really matters.



I believe that OL will get addressed more as time goes on and they come across OL prospects that they like a lot more than those at other positions. Mostly it hangs on Richburg who was one of the better pass blocking centers in football prior to coming to the 49ers. If he's healthy for most of the season and plays like he did before then this entire OL is going to look a whole heck of a lot better than many might be expecting. They made a huge investment in him like Atlanta made into Mack while Shanahan was there. If Richburg gets right then suddenly the OL issues are a lot less pressing. Time will tell.

Excellent post right here.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I guess it is possible that the Cardinals sniped us and got the offensive linemen that we were targetting.

Based on this years inactivity, it's just as likely ShanaLynch have been playing golf all morning.

sounds like a great 3 day weekend

I heard Jed texted Lynch when he was on the 17th hole but it's in their contacts they don't work on holiday weekends.

Originally posted by Antix:

If they were a great prospect wouldnt they have made their teams 53?

I really dont see the point of swapping our crappy backups for different crappy backups.

If we had dumped 3 quality DL because we were so deep there, it's safe to say they'd probably be picked up by a team of need there. There are numerous reasons for cuts...it doesn't necessarily mean every one of them is crappy.

I mean, are you saying there isn't a single player out there not better than Garland, Skule and Brunskill? LOL

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Excellent post right here.

Meanwhile the reality is dire though.

Originally posted by NCommand:

If we had dumped 3 quality DL because we were so deep there, it's safe to say they'd probably be picked up by a team of need there. There are numerous reasons for cuts...it doesn't necessarily mean every one of them is crappy.

I mean, are you saying there isn't a single player out there not better than Garland, Skule and Brunskill? LOL

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm saying. I dont think theres a single team as deep on their Oline as we are deep on our DLine.

Now that's not the same as me saying that Garland Skule and Brunskill are good, but I dont think theres teams out there dropping starter quality olinemen. Teams arent even going to drop quality backups. If there were players so much better than our crappy olinemen out there they're not getting released by their teams.

I think you guys just focus in on the Niners so much and dont take into account the state of offensive linemen in this league.

Originally posted by Antix:

Originally posted by NCommand:

If we had dumped 3 quality DL because we were so deep there, it's safe to say they'd probably be picked up by a team of need there. There are numerous reasons for cuts...it doesn't necessarily mean every one of them is crappy.

I mean, are you saying there isn't a single player out there not better than Garland, Skule and Brunskill? LOL

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm saying. I dont think theres a single team as deep on their Oline as we are deep on our DLine.

Now that's not the same as me saying that Garland Skule and Brunskill are good, but I dont think theres teams out there dropping starter quality olinemen. Teams arent even going to drop quality backups. If there were players so much better than our crappy olinemen out there they're not getting released by their teams.

I think you guys just focus in on the Niners so much and dont take into account the state of offensive linemen in this league.

Totally. This is why we saw so many trades for OL this week leading up to this. It's better to secure a high quality starter now no matter the price vs. reviewing the cut pool and hoping you get a diamond at your pick locale. Our FO wasn't going to do anything either way but whatever.

I don't remember seeing Brunskill at T, but Young and Skule didn't impress. I wonder if they try to upgrade or Reynolds and Toran make it to PS?

Good O linemen are becoming harder to find so most of the guys that get cut are old or just not very good. I'm sure Lynch is looking at the waiver wire but unless they feel one of those guys is a significant upgrade, there is no reason to sign him. I would prefer a young guy that's got some tread left on his tires as long as he has some upside.

I couldn't give a s**t if they didn't claim anyone - I trust that these guys know what they're doing.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I couldn't give a s**t if they didn't claim anyone - I trust that these guys know what they're doing.

That's the spirit!

So did we trade a QB yet, or claim some OL help. Went to a wedding last night, don't remember coming home