49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by hello49:
Josh Garnett made it through waivers...

Nice. Bring his b***h ass in as a backup

Not worth it.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by hello49:
Jaguars claim 4, Dolphins claim 5... Niners? Come on man!

Like I said, this is just not a priority to them. Hasn't been for years.

To be fair, I think Shanahan looks for particular lineman to fit his system. Just like Shanahan won't go out and get a Johnny Manziel type of QB for his offense.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by hello49:

Jaguars claim 4, Dolphins claim 5... Niners? Come on man!

Like I said, this is just not a priority to them. Hasn't been for years.

To be fair, I think Shanahan looks for particular lineman to fit his system. Just like Shanahan won't go out and get a Johnny Manziel type of QB for his offense.

I totally believe this. I also see that as a big advantage to us in building up the personnel. Most teams run power and gap schemes so those zone blocking OL aren't as high in demand and can be had later in rounds too.

Doesn't sound like we made any waiver claims. Interesting.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

The #49ers didn't claim a player who was not deemed worthy of being kept on another team's 53-man roster Saturday. For this, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, Robert Saleh and, perhaps, Wes Welker should be fired this morning.

COLUMN COMING https://t.co/wgpBJMcXDg

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) September 1, 2019

Doesn't sound like we made any waiver claims. Interesting.

Call me shocked. I called this yesterday. They massively overvalue their own "talent" at times.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Your new favorite word...deflection

It's stating the obvious. There's simply not enough talent at the position overall in the league. Just because someone plays on the line doesn't mean you're adding talent. I agree with you that they should have invested something via the draft at Guard, but who and when? Who should have been the proper investment over who they drafted?

Conner Williams over Pettis? Risner over Deebo? Those are the only ones that come to mind.

People keep pretending like if you keep using high draft picks on OL that the problem would just go away on its own through virtue of sheer talent but go back through the draft the past three years, look at how many guys are struggling right now or playing at or even slightly below replacement value.



The Browns have invested a s**t ton of $$ and picks into their OL over the past 5 years and they are still having issues despite having picked some good prospects that people here would have been psyched to have.



Austin Corbett was an early 2nd round pick a year ago, 33rd pick in the draft, an expected 10 year starter and they are already talking about replacing him in Cleveland because he couldn't block a drunk, one legged hooker from hopping past him into church on a Sunday.



https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/18/opinion-time-for-the-browns-to-bail-on-austin-corbett/





Finding OL is tough. There are about 32 teams that could stand to improve and practically everyone is one bad injury away from having major issues. There just aren't enough good linemen nowadays to go around. OL, especially tackles, were some of the most bust-proof of positions 20 years ago but nowadays that is no longer true. You could draft well regarded prospects in the 1st and 2nd round for three years straight and still have a crap OL, especially when picking out of the Top 10.


So when I hear people talking about "well all they needed to do was use a few more high draft picks and everything would be just dandy", I'm not so sure. Teams are missing on OL all over the place and I think the main reason why is that many colleges are no longer properly developing them.



It is something that Mark Schlereth and many others have been harping on for years. When Bill Polian signed up for the AAF, his intended goal was to make it a place where you could properly develop QBs and OL, both of which aren't getting taught right in the college game right now.



This team currently has 3 former 1st rounders and an early 2nd as part of their starting lineup. Talent is really not an issue. I don't doubt that they want to further upgrade the position but it also comes down to who is available.




Should they have taken an OL instead of Bosa? Samuel? Which OL should they have gone for instead of Hurd? Its not just about stacking the position with bodies but finding talent that you feel really good about. Last year there was a major run on OL from the mid first to the early 2nd. By the time they got up to draft Pettis, basically any starter quality prospects were gone. This year it was a lot of the same so you were either skipping out on Bosa or Samuel if you wanted to bring in someone that potentially might be a day one starter which at least in the short term is the only thing that really matters.



I believe that OL will get addressed more as time goes on and they come across OL prospects that they like a lot more than those at other positions. Mostly it hangs on Richburg who was one of the better pass blocking centers in football prior to coming to the 49ers. If he's healthy for most of the season and plays like he did before then this entire OL is going to look a whole heck of a lot better than many might be expecting. They made a huge investment in him like Atlanta made into Mack while Shanahan was there. If Richburg gets right then suddenly the OL issues are a lot less pressing. Time will tell.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

The #49ers didn't claim a player who was not deemed worthy of being kept on another team's 53-man roster Saturday. For this, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, Robert Saleh and, perhaps, Wes Welker should be fired this morning.

COLUMN COMING https://t.co/wgpBJMcXDg

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) September 1, 2019

Doesn't sound like we made any waiver claims. Interesting.

Call me shocked. I called this yesterday. They massively overvalue their own "talent" at times.

Ridiculous! Probably missed on some great prospects, especially when we had the second choice of anyone...

What a terrible day

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Your new favorite word...deflection

It's stating the obvious. There's simply not enough talent at the position overall in the league. Just because someone plays on the line doesn't mean you're adding talent. I agree with you that they should have invested something via the draft at Guard, but who and when? Who should have been the proper investment over who they drafted?

Conner Williams over Pettis? Risner over Deebo? Those are the only ones that come to mind.

People keep pretending like if you keep using high draft picks on OL that the problem would just go away on its own through virtue of sheer talent but go back through the draft the past three years, look at how many guys are struggling right now or playing at or even slightly below replacement value.



The Browns have invested a s**t ton of $$ and picks into their OL over the past 5 years and they are still having issues despite having picked some good prospects that people here would have been psyched to have.



Austin Corbett was an early 2nd round pick a year ago, 33rd pick in the draft, an expected 10 year starter and they are already talking about replacing him in Cleveland because he couldn't block a drunk, one legged hooker from hopping past him into church on a Sunday.



https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/18/opinion-time-for-the-browns-to-bail-on-austin-corbett/





Finding OL is tough. There are about 32 teams that could stand to improve and practically everyone is one bad injury away from having major issues. There just aren't enough good linemen nowadays to go around. OL, especially tackles, were some of the most bust-proof of positions 20 years ago but nowadays that is no longer true. You could draft well regarded prospects in the 1st and 2nd round for three years straight and still have a crap OL, especially when picking out of the Top 10.


So when I hear people talking about "well all they needed to do was use a few more high draft picks and everything would be just dandy", I'm not so sure. Teams are missing on OL all over the place and I think the main reason why is that many colleges are no longer properly developing them.



It is something that Mark Schlereth and many others have been harping on for years. When Bill Polian signed up for the AAF, his intended goal was to make it a place where you could properly develop QBs and OL, both of which aren't getting taught right in the college game right now.



This team currently has 3 former 1st rounders and an early 2nd as part of their starting lineup. Talent is really not an issue. I don't doubt that they want to further upgrade the position but it also comes down to who is available.




Should they have taken an OL instead of Bosa? Samuel? Which OL should they have gone for instead of Hurd? Its not just about stacking the position with bodies but finding talent that you feel really good about. Last year there was a major run on OL from the mid first to the early 2nd. By the time they got up to draft Pettis, basically any starter quality prospects were gone. This year it was a lot of the same so you were either skipping out on Bosa or Samuel if you wanted to bring in someone that potentially might be a day one starter which at least in the short term is the only thing that really matters.



I believe that OL will get addressed more as time goes on and they come across OL prospects that they like a lot more than those at other positions. Mostly it hangs on Richburg who was one of the better pass blocking centers in football prior to coming to the 49ers. If he's healthy for most of the season and plays like he did before then this entire OL is going to look a whole heck of a lot better than many might be expecting. They made a huge investment in him like Atlanta made into Mack while Shanahan was there. If Richburg gets right then suddenly the OL issues are a lot less pressing. Time will tell.

Good post.

Browns...then trade their best G away. I guess they feel they can do that for a great WR and mobile QB.

Just praying we get through this season clean health and Richburg regains full health and production. It's playing Russian Roulette IMHO starring your FQB and that makes me sick to my stomach but this is their calculated risk.

Let's just pray this topic slowly falls off page 1 and we get through 16 games unphased so it can be properly addressed next year.

I have a bad feeling about this..

I guess it is possible that the Cardinals sniped us and got the offensive linemen that we were targetting.

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

The #49ers didn't claim a player who was not deemed worthy of being kept on another team's 53-man roster Saturday. For this, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, Robert Saleh and, perhaps, Wes Welker should be fired this morning.

COLUMN COMING https://t.co/wgpBJMcXDg

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) September 1, 2019

Doesn't sound like we made any waiver claims. Interesting.

Call me shocked. I called this yesterday. They massively overvalue their own "talent" at times.

Ridiculous! Probably missed on some great prospects, especially when we had the second choice of anyone...

"One does not simply come in and replace Garland, Brunskill and Skule."

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I guess it is possible that the Cardinals sniped us and got the offensive linemen that we were targetting.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened

Wow. Guess you were right NC. I really hoped to get an interior OL

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I guess it is possible that the Cardinals sniped us and got the offensive linemen that we were targetting.

Based on this years inactivity, it's just as likely ShanaLynch have been playing golf all morning.