49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
lol lets be real he's the starter. Sure the coaches will say that he needs to earn it and they might bake gilliam the starting RT but we all know who is going to be our starting RT week 1.

if he is not and gets beat out by tomlinson. then there is something really really wrong... lynch

No, it would be Shanahan, who likely has more input on offensive draft picks. Let's fire Shanahan if they don't win their first game!

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
The less that current depth chart on ESPN has Staley/Tomlinson/Richburg/Garnett/Brown. Replace Brown with McGlinchey and LG is the only question left.

LOT: Joe Staley; Garry Gilliam
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Erik Magnuson
C: Weston Richburg; Mike Person
RG: Joshua Garnett; Jonathan Cooper
ROT: Mike McGlinchey

We don't even know if the rookie is ready to play!

You don't just throw a rookie in there when you have a $125 million dollar QB sitting back there. I think the rookie has to earn the job through mini camp and training camp before we just throw him in as a starter!

Don't fret, glory - he'll win the job, no worries.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
lol lets be real he's the starter. Sure the coaches will say that he needs to earn it and they might bake gilliam the starting RT but we all know who is going to be our starting RT week 1.

if he is not and gets beat out by tomlinson. then there is something really really wrong... lynch

No, it would be Shanahan, who likely has more input on offensive draft picks. Let's fire Shanahan if they don't win their first game!

well whoever.. it would look bad. barring an injury of course. if the kid can not start day one

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
lol lets be real he's the starter. Sure the coaches will say that he needs to earn it and they might bake gilliam the starting RT but we all know who is going to be our starting RT week 1.

if he is not and gets beat out by tomlinson. then there is something really really wrong... lynch

No, it would be Shanahan, who likely has more input on offensive draft picks. Let's fire Shanahan if they don't win their first game!

well whoever.. it would look bad. barring an injury of course. if the kid can not start day one

That's one scenario, but what if Darrell Williams, Jr. starts and plays well while McG learns? Would that be bad? Nothing guarantees a draft pick succeeds, even first round picks, but having Lynch/Shanahan over Baalke/any HC...is very nice!

Remember Nolan picking Smith over Rodgers because Rodgers would not do jumping jacks during the interview? So many dumb things have happened over the years that I'll give Lynch/Shanahan a few years grace before doubting every move they make. But then...I tend to be an optimist!

Mike Person was signed following an interior OL workout that also included Oday Aboushi, Josh LeRibeus and Brian Schwenke, per source.https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/994316219292553216

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) May 9, 2018

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
That's one scenario, but what if Darrell Williams, Jr. starts and plays well while McG learns? Would that be bad? Nothing guarantees a draft pick succeeds, even first round picks, but having Lynch/Shanahan over Baalke/any HC...is very nice!

Remember Nolan picking Smith over Rodgers because Rodgers would not do jumping jacks during the interview? So many dumb things have happened over the years that I'll give Lynch/Shanahan a few years grace before doubting every move they make. But then...I tend to be an optimist!

an optimist.. i have heard about people like you

Originally posted by cciowa:
if he is not and gets beat out by tomlinson. then there is something really really wrong... lynch

well if he gets beet by a guard for the tackle position then hell yeah they have a problem.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by cciowa:
if he is not and gets beat out by tomlinson. then there is something really really wrong... lynch

well if he gets beet by a guard for the tackle position then hell yeah they have a problem.

lol. agree. that means we have a crazy team.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Yeah, I had predicted we'd grab another veteran like Fusco or Barnes last year and Mike Person is a solid depth guy. He's our new Beadles.

As to the draft finding at least one G to start or develop into a starter next year, there were options but 5 OL had already gone in the first 23 picks and then there was a big run on OL to start the 2nd; 4 of the next 7 picks. Lots of quality OL but we picked at 44.

The one G who was there at 44 (went to the Cowboys at 50) was Connor Williams.

Connor Williams or Dante Pettis?

It's an interesting conversation because they were talking about keeping La'el Collins inside if they drafted a tackle. They announced him as a guard so the intention is to have him compete for the starting guard position. --Mike Mayock

Following our own draft strategy, there were some good ones in the 3rd but mostly developmental guys like G Alex Cappa and C/G Mason Cole but we bably needed Fred Warner.

The argument for Connor Williams is, if you felt he could win a starting job he'd give 1K snaps this year vs. Pettis' projected 400-500 snaps. If you didn't think he could beat out Tomlinson, Garnett or Cooper, then he's depth training to start next year with Pettis adding 400-500 snaps immediately.

Great perspective. Pettis is projected to impact ST immediately because the people ahead of him weren't drafted with that as a college record-setting skillset on their resume(s).

You absolutely need to factor in ST this year. He's a swing-WR this year who'll give you return snaps. If he solidifies a starting role at WR down the road, perhaps the coaches pull back on return duties and give that to a guy like D.J. Reed.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Yep. Why I'm preaching patience. The lights are on and people are at home. LOL

And they say patience is dead! Hah!! NIcely said GM!

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
The less that current depth chart on ESPN has Staley/Tomlinson/Richburg/Garnett/Brown. Replace Brown with McGlinchey and LG is the only question left.

LOT: Joe Staley; Garry Gilliam
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Erik Magnuson
C: Weston Richburg; Mike Person
RG: Joshua Garnett; Jonathan Cooper
ROT: Mike McGlinchey

We don't even know if the rookie is ready to play!

You don't just throw a rookie in there when you have a $125 million dollar QB sitting back there. I think the rookie has to earn the job through mini camp and training camp before we just throw him in as a starter!

lol lets be real he's the starter. Sure the coaches will say that he needs to earn it and they might bake gilliam the starting RT but we all know who is going to be our starting RT week 1.

They did not spend a #9 pick on a guy who isn't thought to be a first year starter at RT. Then trading Brown made it even more clear that they hope he starts. But is it possible he needs a year? Sure. That's one of the fun things about football...you never know!

I think the above has the makings of a very good offensive line. Of all the squads, though, it seems that it typically takes the O line longer to gel together. There may be some speed bumps in the pre-season and possibly the first couple of games. (Hopefully the speed bump isn't the QB!)

What kind of contract did we give Person? Also, do we have anyone on our O-line that could be the LS besides Kyle Nelson? Seems like a wasted 53 man roster spot, in the sense that if someone else could do it effectively, and actually be a regular starter, or solid back up, it would make sense to keep them over Nelson, and FREE UP a 53 man spot. If we don't have one, then it's fine, but I would be looking at next years draft for a guy who is a good LS, but also a good scheme fit for our O-line, that actually makes the roster as an O-lineman, and also offers us our LS when needed.

Um.

Cutting Tomlinson and benching Cooper to start Magnusen at RG? Cutting Gilliam and Williams for Pace Murphy? Magically assigning Person to the PS despite not being remotely eligible?

I usually enjoy WZ exclusives, but this Bret dude needs to go away. I thought his "cut Reuben Foster now" tirade was bad enough, but this article is Grant Cohn bad.

Originally posted by GoldBrick:
Um.

Cutting Tomlinson and benching Cooper to start Magnusen at RG? Cutting Gilliam and Williams for Pace Murphy? Magically assigning Person to the PS despite not being remotely eligible?

I usually enjoy WZ exclusives, but this Bret dude needs to go away. I thought his "cut Reuben Foster now" tirade was bad enough, but this article is Grant Cohn bad.

Maybe drinking on the job #alcoholic

Originally posted by GoldBrick:
Um.

Cutting Tomlinson and benching Cooper to start Magnusen at RG? Cutting Gilliam and Williams for Pace Murphy? Magically assigning Person to the PS despite not being remotely eligible?

I usually enjoy WZ exclusives, but this Bret dude needs to go away. I thought his "cut Reuben Foster now" tirade was bad enough, but this article is Grant Cohn bad.

Agreed. Maybe even worse than that.

Even Grant Cohn has to know Person is not eligible for PS.