49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:
thanks for posting this--very useful info.

stepping back and trying to look at the big picture of how shanalynch are going about the rebuild, it looks like they intend to remake the o-line with more agile, athletic players rather than the bigger, slower "mauler" types Baalke preferred.

adios Kilgore, hello Richburg. that's just the beginning.

Garnett can stick around because he's devoted himself to remaking his physique---he's gotten stronger, quicker, more agile and flexible. he may have remade himself into precisely what shanny's looking for in his guards, and he's been around for the past year--learning the playbook, etc. he's not exactly an experienced vet--but he's not a fresh-faced rookie either. pencil him in at one guard spot.

Tomlinson is a question mark to me as to just how agile and athletic he is. he had some ups and downs last season--but came in late and was learning on the job, plus he's now got a year's worth of experience in the system. pencil him in at the other guard spot.

Staley is, well, Staley. write his name down in ink and give the man a raise. he deserves it. he's not only the best returning lineman, he's a team leader.

Brown has alot to prove this season. if he shows up out of shape and overweight, he could lose his job. he's got to work hard every day, every practice, to show he's developed the determination, the mental strength to consistently execute his assigned block on every play in every game. if he can do that, the sky's the limit. pencil him in with a red pencil.

Beadles is an experienced, versatile vet who can play any position on the o-line. jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none. keep him around, but keep him on the bench.

Magnuson, Gilliam, Williams are guys that appear to have the physical tools needed, and have a years experience in the system. they should push for playing time should someone falter or--God forbid--suffer an injury.

that leaves the draft--lots of prospects and i expect shanalynch to take at least two and maybe three 0-line prospects. if Nelson falls to them at 9, sprint to the podium to take him. otherwise i like Wynn, B Smith, Daniels late, and Williams (Tex) or Miller, the kid out of UCLA at tackle.

Good post OND.

Yeah, we have a big OZ question mark for Brown because of his size. If Kyle genuinely wants to remake his OL, using Richburg as an example, that means we have more to worry about than Brown. Both Tomlinson and Garnett were talented power and gap G's originally drafted to play in those schemes. Both were first rounders and do have talent. But both have huge question marks in pass protection and we run zone here.

So if that's the lineup, that's 3 power linemen starting in your 5.

Losing weight also doesn't necessarily replace the skills you need to run IZ and OZ and be stellar in PP. Brown is the least of my worries of the 3 because he's really only poor on runs off his outside edge. Laken Tomlinson may have an average ceiling here because of the lack of fit. Same exact concept with Garnett. I have huge question marks about both of those two.

Two premier T's and a C will certainly help mask deficiencies in pass protection but for IZ and OZ, they'll be on their own and will be critical in what Kyle can and can not call. The good news is, like you said, both with have had a full year of exposure to the system.

Both players looked far bigger than their listed 320 coming out of college too. Transforming their bodies is a step in the right direction but let's see if they have the skills to fit zone now.

Excellent call in bold and very often overlooked in the criticisms of Trent Brown!

sorry, but i have to disagree--TB seems to have trouble consistently executing his assignment on OZ run plays to the left AND to the right.

its not that he lacks the physical tools--the size, strength, or mobility--but sometimes he just doesn't seem to react quickly enough to the snap of the ball. (frankly,, i think that's sometimes true even in pass protection)

i have seen a number of OZ run plays to the left side where TB allowed his man to cross in front of him and tackle the RB behind the LOS--while TB ends up just standing there watching. just a failure to execute his assignment on time.

my belief is that this is a problem he can overcome through hard work and additional experience. remember he's still a young man, and relatively inexperienced at playing football. if he comes to TC in shape, his coaches undoubtedly recognize the problem and will get on him about it--help him address it.

if he fixes the problem and learns to consistently execute his assignments with vigor--look out NFL!

Two criticisms of Brown:
1) he relies on his length too often instead of moving his feet...pushes pass rushers wide by using his long reach. That laziness is less important now that they have JG getting the ball out quickly, but should be cleaned up.
2) weight and laziness--worried he will come to camp overweight and won't make the progress needed to improve overall effectiveness.

On the other hand, if he comes into camp in shape and has a great attitude--wonderful!

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Two criticisms of Brown:
1) he relies on his length too often instead of moving his feet...pushes pass rushers wide by using his long reach. That laziness is less important now that they have JG getting the ball out quickly, but should be cleaned up.
2) weight and laziness--worried he will come to camp overweight and won't make the progress needed to improve overall effectiveness.

On the other hand, if he comes into camp in shape and has a great attitude--wonderful!

I think your first concern is valid and coincides with what I said parenthetically above. he's sometimes slow to react quickly enough to the snap of the ball even on pass plays--but he's so big and long-armed that it doesn't matter on pass protection plays.

it does matter on run plays, though--so I hope he can learn to explode at the snap of the ball. if he does so consistently, no one will want to face him--ever. imho.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:
thanks for posting this--very useful info.

stepping back and trying to look at the big picture of how shanalynch are going about the rebuild, it looks like they intend to remake the o-line with more agile, athletic players rather than the bigger, slower "mauler" types Baalke preferred.

adios Kilgore, hello Richburg. that's just the beginning.

Garnett can stick around because he's devoted himself to remaking his physique---he's gotten stronger, quicker, more agile and flexible. he may have remade himself into precisely what shanny's looking for in his guards, and he's been around for the past year--learning the playbook, etc. he's not exactly an experienced vet--but he's not a fresh-faced rookie either. pencil him in at one guard spot.

Tomlinson is a question mark to me as to just how agile and athletic he is. he had some ups and downs last season--but came in late and was learning on the job, plus he's now got a year's worth of experience in the system. pencil him in at the other guard spot.

Staley is, well, Staley. write his name down in ink and give the man a raise. he deserves it. he's not only the best returning lineman, he's a team leader.

Brown has alot to prove this season. if he shows up out of shape and overweight, he could lose his job. he's got to work hard every day, every practice, to show he's developed the determination, the mental strength to consistently execute his assigned block on every play in every game. if he can do that, the sky's the limit. pencil him in with a red pencil.

Beadles is an experienced, versatile vet who can play any position on the o-line. jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none. keep him around, but keep him on the bench.

Magnuson, Gilliam, Williams are guys that appear to have the physical tools needed, and have a years experience in the system. they should push for playing time should someone falter or--God forbid--suffer an injury.

that leaves the draft--lots of prospects and i expect shanalynch to take at least two and maybe three 0-line prospects. if Nelson falls to them at 9, sprint to the podium to take him. otherwise i like Wynn, B Smith, Daniels late, and Williams (Tex) or Miller, the kid out of UCLA at tackle.

Good post OND.

Yeah, we have a big OZ question mark for Brown because of his size. If Kyle genuinely wants to remake his OL, using Richburg as an example, that means we have more to worry about than Brown. Both Tomlinson and Garnett were talented power and gap G's originally drafted to play in those schemes. Both were first rounders and do have talent. But both have huge question marks in pass protection and we run zone here.

So if that's the lineup, that's 3 power linemen starting in your 5.

Losing weight also doesn't necessarily replace the skills you need to run IZ and OZ and be stellar in PP. Brown is the least of my worries of the 3 because he's really only poor on runs off his outside edge. Laken Tomlinson may have an average ceiling here because of the lack of fit. Same exact concept with Garnett. I have huge question marks about both of those two.

Two premier T's and a C will certainly help mask deficiencies in pass protection but for IZ and OZ, they'll be on their own and will be critical in what Kyle can and can not call. The good news is, like you said, both with have had a full year of exposure to the system.

Both players looked far bigger than their listed 320 coming out of college too. Transforming their bodies is a step in the right direction but let's see if they have the skills to fit zone now.

Excellent call in bold and very often overlooked in the criticisms of Trent Brown!

sorry, but i have to disagree--TB seems to have trouble consistently executing his assignment on OZ run plays to the left AND to the right.

its not that he lacks the physical tools--the size, strength, or mobility--but sometimes he just doesn't seem to react quickly enough to the snap of the ball. (frankly,, i think that's sometimes true even in pass protection)

i have seen a number of OZ run plays to the left side where TB allowed his man to cross in front of him and tackle the RB behind the LOS--while TB ends up just standing there watching. just a failure to execute his assignment on time.

my belief is that this is a problem he can overcome through hard work and additional experience. remember he's still a young man, and relatively inexperienced at playing football. if he comes to TC in shape, his coaches undoubtedly recognize the problem and will get on him about it--help him address it.

if he fixes the problem and learns to consistently execute his assignments with vigor--look out NFL!

An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

Originally posted by Giedi:
An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

problem w/your argument re the Garappolo games--TB was on IR and did not play in any of them.
so your point re the offense's success in the Garappolo games really just underscores the concerns w/ TB's consistent execution on running plays.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:
An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

problem w/your argument re the Garappolo games--TB was on IR and did not play in any of them.
so your point re the offense's success in the Garappolo games really just underscores the concerns w/ TB's consistent execution on running plays.

He did fine in my opinion in Jimmy's first game against Da Bears - (Jimmy's first start.) That was the 6th highest rushing total of the 2017 season.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

sorry, but i have to disagree--TB seems to have trouble consistently executing his assignment on OZ run plays to the left AND to the right.

its not that he lacks the physical tools--the size, strength, or mobility--but sometimes he just doesn't seem to react quickly enough to the snap of the ball. (frankly,, i think that's sometimes true even in pass protection)

i have seen a number of OZ run plays to the left side where TB allowed his man to cross in front of him and tackle the RB behind the LOS--while TB ends up just standing there watching. just a failure to execute his assignment on time.

my belief is that this is a problem he can overcome through hard work and additional experience. remember he's still a young man, and relatively inexperienced at playing football. if he comes to TC in shape, his coaches undoubtedly recognize the problem and will get on him about it--help him address it.

if he fixes the problem and learns to consistently execute his assignments with vigor--look out NFL!

You definitely have legit concerns. I've seen it too. When Kyle said he needs to be more consistent, I believe this is mostly what he's talking about. Like you said...he can do it but doesn't do it consistently. I genuinely don't know if we'll ever be able to run off his end but perhaps with a blazer like McKinnon and Breida and more emphasis on it, maybe. The lack of consistency can come down to conditioning, laziness, concentration, inexperience, etc. He's only started 28 games in his career under 3 different offensive systems so we'll see how it goes this year. He'll be behind the 8-ball on upper body conditioning due to the surgery.

Right now the 49ers have less cap space than the Rams for the foreseeable future. Which means that the team have to economize on non-premium positions, like guard. I expect that the guard position will be churning continuously in the following years, with journeyman players rotating at RG/LG year-to-year unless we get a mid/late-round/udfa guard to start for at least 3 years of his rookie contract.

The guard position is apparently set, as we were not targeting any starters during the free agency, which means that two of Garnett/Tomlinson/Magnusson are counted on to be starters. The team will sign another vet-min backup before the season (like Fusco/Barnes), but at this point I won't be surprised if we do not invest in the position a lot during the draft (2nd-5th rounder). Unless BPA, but we might see an unexpected run on IOL this offseason.

Originally posted by Poldarn49:
Right now the 49ers have less cap space than the Rams for the foreseeable future. Which means that the team have to economize on non-premium positions, like guard. I expect that the guard position will be churning continuously in the following years, with journeyman players rotating at RG/LG year-to-year unless we get a mid/late-round/udfa guard to start for at least 3 years of his rookie contract.

The guard position is apparently set, as we were not targeting any starters during the free agency, which means that two of Garnett/Tomlinson/Magnusson are counted on to be starters. The team will sign another vet-min backup before the season (like Fusco/Barnes), but at this point I won't be surprised if we do not invest in the position a lot during the draft (2nd-5th rounder). Unless BPA, but we might see an unexpected run on IOL this offseason.

Rams salary cap with go away quickly over the next three seasons as they have to give new contracts to A.Donald, T.Gurley, J.Goff in consecutive years.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:
An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

problem w/your argument re the Garappolo games--TB was on IR and did not play in any of them.
so your point re the offense's success in the Garappolo games really just underscores the concerns w/ TB's consistent execution on running plays.

He did fine in my opinion in Jimmy's first game against Da Bears - (Jimmy's first start.) That was the 6th highest rushing total of the 2017 season.

a game which Magnuson started and finished at RT w/ a torn ligament in his foot--after which he joined TB on IR. TB did not play in any of the 5 games in which JG started at QB.

is this evidence that the running game--OZ scheme that it is--improved greatly with Magnuson at RT instead of TB because Magnuson was better at consistently executing his blocking assignments?

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:
An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

problem w/your argument re the Garappolo games--TB was on IR and did not play in any of them.
so your point re the offense's success in the Garappolo games really just underscores the concerns w/ TB's consistent execution on running plays.

He did fine in my opinion in Jimmy's first game against Da Bears - (Jimmy's first start.) That was the 6th highest rushing total of the 2017 season.

a game which Magnuson started and finished at RT w/ a torn ligament in his foot--after which he joined TB on IR. TB did not play in any of the 5 games in which JG started at QB.

is this evidence that the running game--OZ scheme that it is--improved greatly with Magnuson at RT instead of TB because Magnuson was better at consistently executing his blocking assignments?

Brown played in the Chicago game.

Originally posted by NCommand:
You definitely have legit concerns. I've seen it too. When Kyle said he needs to be more consistent, I believe this is mostly what he's talking about. Like you said...he can do it but doesn't do it consistently. I genuinely don't know if we'll ever be able to run off his end but perhaps with a blazer like McKinnon and Breida and more emphasis on it, maybe. The lack of consistency can come down to conditioning, laziness, concentration, inexperience, etc. He's only started 28 games in his career under 3 different offensive systems so we'll see how it goes this year. He'll be behind the 8-ball on upper body conditioning due to the surgery.

agreed. TB should have a better grasp of shanny's run scheme to start the season and will be better able to focus on some of the details--will be able to just play w/o having to think about so much new stuff, which the entire o-line had to deal with at the start of last season.

But--if he comes into camp out of shape and loses reps to others who are in shape and ready to roll--he could lose his job--to GG, or Mags, who took over at RT in the Bears game last season and earned some praise from shanny for finishing the game despite a season ending injury to his foot.

TB is not a lock at RT--yet. He's got a lot to prove and improve. imho.

Originally posted by Hopper:
Brown played in the Chicago game.

if he did it was only a snap or two, or a single series. iirc. Magnuson played RT in his place and finished the game w/ a torn ligament in his foot.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Giedi:

An explanation, regarding *some* of TB's supposed missed blocks. 1. Hyde wasn't a fit (too slow not agile enough to cut and accelerate out of cuts) that poses a problem in Kyle's one cut system where if you have a slow and indecisive back, it *looks* like a bad block by TB, when it was the RB's fault for not being able to get to the hole or be decisive enough to burst through the crease because of his lack of speed and acceleration. 2. you may be watching non-Garoppolo games, where the defense was teeing off the run because they really didn't have to worry about the pass because of BeatHard being a rookie passer. 3. In the Garoppolo games, the 49ers had one game that had less than one hundred ground yards, the rest of the games were over one hundred yards on the ground. So even *if* TB was not a fit in the ZBS, the fact that they averaged almost 400 yards passing in the Garappolo games, tell me that TB's problems in run blocking may be overstated.

I agree that TB has problems in the ZBS, but I still think his pass blocking is enough to keep him on the team. I think Kyle is astute enough to see what we all see about TB and will plan accordingly in the draft, and I am looking forward to seeing a OT taken in the middle rounds to solve the TB run blocking problems. Now, if TB improves, I can see him being a foundational player for a long time in this system. I also can see TB being traded if he *doesn't improve* and they draft a OT that is as capable a pass protector as TB is and is also significantly better run blocking in Kyle's ZBS.

problem w/your argument re the Garappolo games--TB was on IR and did not play in any of them.
so your point re the offense's success in the Garappolo games really just underscores the concerns w/ TB's consistent execution on running plays.

He did fine in my opinion in Jimmy's first game against Da Bears - (Jimmy's first start.) That was the 6th highest rushing total of the 2017 season.

a game which Magnuson started and finished at RT w/ a torn ligament in his foot--after which he joined TB on IR. TB did not play in any of the 5 games in which JG started at QB.

is this evidence that the running game--OZ scheme that it is--improved greatly with Magnuson at RT instead of TB because Magnuson was better at consistently executing his blocking assignments?

I coulda sworn Beadles took over TB's starting spot when TB injured his Labrum during practice. Magnuson was pretty good at guard and he played center a bit, if I recall correctly last year pre-season.

As for TB, he definitely played in Jimmy's first game as a starter in the Bears game. He got injured the week after the Bears game in practice.

As a run blocker, I thought he was adequate. He's not going to outrun the LB to the edge, that's for sure. He's not going to make the team soleley on his run blocking, his pass blocking was superb in the bears game with Jimmy. I think the upgrade at center (Richburg) and if either Magnuson or Garnett or another quicker player - plays to the left of him, those outside runs become more effective. Finally, McKinnon's speed and the right side screen game is going to make TB much more effective in the run game.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Brown played in the Chicago game.

Yup, that's what I recall too.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

agreed. TB should have a better grasp of shanny's run scheme to start the season and will be better able to focus on some of the details--will be able to just play w/o having to think about so much new stuff, which the entire o-line had to deal with at the start of last season.

But--if he comes into camp out of shape and loses reps to others who are in shape and ready to roll--he could lose his job--to GG, or Mags, who took over at RT in the Bears game last season and earned some praise from shanny for finishing the game despite a season ending injury to his foot.

TB is not a lock at RT--yet. He's got a lot to prove and improve. imho.

For sure. Magnuson, IIRC, had a rough day (41.5 grade per PFF), but that wasn't his fault. He was injured and playing widely out of position. With Kilgore gone, he'll probably be able to focus on just C now; his best fit.

Gilliam is going to get a lot of first starter reps to begin TC too. And keep your eye on Darrell Williams Jr. I have no doubt we'll be adding a T just in case TB prices himself out in FA or falls on his face. We have Staley at 33 to think about too.

He, like Sherman, aren't locks for anything until they get 100% physically healthy and who knows how long that will take. It's a 6 month recovery, at least, putting his timetable around June.

Aside from health though, it's really Laken Tomlinson and Joshua Garnett that we should be mostly worried about esp. if Suh signs with the Rams.

Also, this:

Brown suffered the shoulder injury in practice leading up to Week 12 against the Seattle Seahawks. He was inactive that week, but played the next week against the Chicago Bears. The injury was not quite right and he was inactive in Week 14 against the Houston Texans.