Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Trent singed.
BUT, we still need to draft his replacement high in the draft. I'm not getting off that. 2 year, $50 mil? That's not comforting because Trent WILL want more money next year and we'll be going through this whole song-&-dance again next year.
We still need to draft his replacement.
i think we should just draft his replacement when he retires. I am all for taking a mid to late round pick to see if he develops into one but i don't like the idea of drafting one high with a day 1/2 pick and develop. Once he retires if we dont have one i like the idea of trading up and picking an OT that you like
Yeah, because we haven't tried that before. What a novel idea.
its a mid round pick you dont depend on that its a way of drafting a guy with a low capital draft cost at a premiere position. Youjust see if he develops and if he doesn't you pick a player early like i said but you do that once Trent retires
Completely disagree. We've tried this before, and it keeps failing. No, we draft his eventual replacement now, let him play LG in 2026, and move him to LT when Trent retires/released. I think it's foolish to draft for need when Trent is gone because it assumes too much for it to be successful. That way we'll have a LT fully up-to-speed, and not reliant on a rookie at a premium position. And, we'll have on a rookie deal to boot. We need to get off that "draft & develop" hamster wheel. It don't work at premium positions. Sure, you can get Brock Pury/Tom Brady lucky every once in a while. But by-and-large you need to draft high for premium positions like LT.
how many players have done this before in NFL? Also this year the only prospect i think that is capable of doing that is Proctor and he isnt even a great scheme fit.
I rather just trade up in a year or two and draft a LT. This is a weak OT class and i hate the idea of drafting a player to sit on the bench when we are in a SB window.
"Scheme fit" is another hamster wheel that I think that's been adding to the lack of talent on this team. There can no more of a glaring example than the lack of talent along our O-line. Shanny & Co. have passed up on so much O-line talent of the last several years presumably due to scheme fit. Raheem Morris has been a breath of fresh air in that he's stated that he's not gonna dictate a scheme until he assesses the given talent. Now, I'm not wishing or expecting Shanny to follow suite. Shanny is too wedded to his scheme. But IMHO he's a bit too wedded to his scheme, so much so that it chokes out very good talent. Here's a list of players that fit Shanny's scheme:
Jake Brendel
Connor Colby
Drake Nugent
Nick Zakelj
Austen Pleasants
Jacob Cowing
Jordan Watkins
Brayden Willis
Jordan James
Isaac Guerendo
Who among those are moving the needle? Can we go to war with those scheme fits?
I agree with Donte Whitner! We need to get some TALENT in here. Enough with the choir boys and stop prioritizing scheme fit over talent so much. Trent's replacement isn't coming from mid-round picks. That's coming from top picks or a blockbuster FA signing. Period!!
i dont get the argument you are making those were all mid to late round picks. You dont expect them to move the needle. We didnt not draft a talented player early because we thought we could get those guys you listed
I mean you can make the argument then we traded up for Aiyuk traded for CMC and drafted guys like Deebo and Kittle who are scheme fits who do move the needle. I mean it isn't like our offense hasnt been producing. Proctor can be a great player but he isnt the type of OL you play in a zone scheme concept. Its a fact that some players are better fits for some offense than others and we are consistently drafting late where it isnt like the talent is so overwhelming that you have to make that pick
My point in listing those players is to illustrate that:
. . . taking a mid to late round pick to see if he develops . . .
. . . simply won't do. These are all "scheme fits" we're still hoping to get developed, one of which we don't wanna see on the field at all. I agree, we are in our SB window. But Trent's eventual replacement don't have to sit a year. Like I said, he can play LG got 2026 and be ready for LT when Trent is gone. What's wrong with that? And Proctor isn't the only choice who'll likely be available at 27. Max Iheanachor and Blake Miller will be there as well. But I think playing Proctor next to Trent will prepare him well to replace Trent. In any event, we need to draft Trent's replacement with one of our top 2 picks, IMHO.