49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, last week I read an article (can't recall where) that claimed this year's draft has only 11 sure-fire #1 round worthy players. OL had only three, all projected to go in the top 10-12 picks. Next year will be much better.

Here is the link from ESPN's Matt Miller https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/47455728/2026-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

• Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love
• Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza
• Ohio State S Caleb Downs
• Ohio State LB Arvell Reese
• Miami OT Francis Mauigoa
• Texas Tech EDGE David Bailey
• Ohio State LB Sonny Styles
• USC WR Makai Lemon
• Ohio State WR Carnell Tate
• Miami EDGE Reuben Bain Jr.
• Oregon TE Kenyon Sadiq

Of particular note:
"The interior offensive line class doesn't feature a first-round grade, but there are strong contenders to be selected late in the first round. Penn State guard Olaivavega Ioane ranks as a top-40 player on my board and has the consistent run game and pass protection skills at 6-foot-4, 330 pounds to be a starter in the NFL. Oregon guard Emmanuel Pregnon and Auburn center Connor Lew could push into that range, too."

Of course, this was written before the Combine and some things may change but it makes for interesting comment, IMO.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I'll probably take an average internet film evaluator over Matt Millen, someone who was once paid for an NFL franchise to make scouting/personnel evaluations.

Millen whiffed on every Lions draft he conducted. Eight years of failure. I cannot believe you would even attempt to compare his efforts to McGloughan. But, to each his own.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, last week I read an article (can't recall where) that claimed this year's draft has only 11 sure-fire #1 round worthy players. OL had only three, all projected to go in the top 10-12 picks. Next year will be much better.

Here is the link from ESPN's Matt Miller https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/47455728/2026-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

• Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love
• Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza
• Ohio State S Caleb Downs
• Ohio State LB Arvell Reese
• Miami OT Francis Mauigoa
• Texas Tech EDGE David Bailey
• Ohio State LB Sonny Styles
• USC WR Makai Lemon
• Ohio State WR Carnell Tate
• Miami EDGE Reuben Bain Jr.
• Oregon TE Kenyon Sadiq

Of particular note:
"The interior offensive line class doesn't feature a first-round grade, but there are strong contenders to be selected late in the first round. Penn State guard Olaivavega Ioane ranks as a top-40 player on my board and has the consistent run game and pass protection skills at 6-foot-4, 330 pounds to be a starter in the NFL. Oregon guard Emmanuel Pregnon and Auburn center Connor Lew could push into that range, too."

Of course, this was written before the Combine and some things may change but it makes for interesting comment, IMO.

i do agree but i would add a few more to that list

Delane CB
Ioane OG
Thieneman S
EMW S

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, last week I read an article (can't recall where) that claimed this year's draft has only 11 sure-fire #1 round worthy players. OL had only three, all projected to go in the top 10-12 picks. Next year will be much better.

Here is the link from ESPN's Matt Miller https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/47455728/2026-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

• Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love
• Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza
• Ohio State S Caleb Downs
• Ohio State LB Arvell Reese
• Miami OT Francis Mauigoa
• Texas Tech EDGE David Bailey
• Ohio State LB Sonny Styles
• USC WR Makai Lemon
• Ohio State WR Carnell Tate
• Miami EDGE Reuben Bain Jr.
• Oregon TE Kenyon Sadiq

Of particular note:
"The interior offensive line class doesn't feature a first-round grade, but there are strong contenders to be selected late in the first round. Penn State guard Olaivavega Ioane ranks as a top-40 player on my board and has the consistent run game and pass protection skills at 6-foot-4, 330 pounds to be a starter in the NFL. Oregon guard Emmanuel Pregnon and Auburn center Connor Lew could push into that range, too."

Of course, this was written before the Combine and some things may change but it makes for interesting comment, IMO.

i do agree but i would add a few more to that list

Delane CB
Ioane OG
Thieneman S
EMW S

The question for the 49ers remains whether to draft for need at LG or BPA. In this case, Miller is saying though there may be some guards chosen, they will not represent first round value on an objective scale (if there is one).

Of course the 49ers do not value guards that highly anyway so perhaps they see Robert Jones being as good as any guard that might be available at #27.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, last week I read an article (can't recall where) that claimed this year's draft has only 11 sure-fire #1 round worthy players. OL had only three, all projected to go in the top 10-12 picks. Next year will be much better.

Here is the link from ESPN's Matt Miller https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/47455728/2026-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

• Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love
• Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza
• Ohio State S Caleb Downs
• Ohio State LB Arvell Reese
• Miami OT Francis Mauigoa
• Texas Tech EDGE David Bailey
• Ohio State LB Sonny Styles
• USC WR Makai Lemon
• Ohio State WR Carnell Tate
• Miami EDGE Reuben Bain Jr.
• Oregon TE Kenyon Sadiq

Of particular note:
"The interior offensive line class doesn't feature a first-round grade, but there are strong contenders to be selected late in the first round. Penn State guard Olaivavega Ioane ranks as a top-40 player on my board and has the consistent run game and pass protection skills at 6-foot-4, 330 pounds to be a starter in the NFL. Oregon guard Emmanuel Pregnon and Auburn center Connor Lew could push into that range, too."

Of course, this was written before the Combine and some things may change but it makes for interesting comment, IMO.

i do agree but i would add a few more to that list

Delane CB
Ioane OG
Thieneman S
EMW S

The question for the 49ers remains whether to draft for need at LG or BPA. In this case, Miller is saying though there may be some guards chosen, they will not represent first round value on an objective scale (if there is one).

Of course the 49ers do not value guards that highly anyway so perhaps they see Robert Jones being as good as any guard that might be available at #27.

the way they set up FA my guess is they will go BPA

i do think unless you get a blue chip G there are a bunch of OT you can draft that can play G. There are more than a few of those prospects

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, last week I read an article (can't recall where) that claimed this year's draft has only 11 sure-fire #1 round worthy players. OL had only three, all projected to go in the top 10-12 picks. Next year will be much better.

Here is the link from ESPN's Matt Miller https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/47455728/2026-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

• Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love
• Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza
• Ohio State S Caleb Downs
• Ohio State LB Arvell Reese
• Miami OT Francis Mauigoa
• Texas Tech EDGE David Bailey
• Ohio State LB Sonny Styles
• USC WR Makai Lemon
• Ohio State WR Carnell Tate
• Miami EDGE Reuben Bain Jr.
• Oregon TE Kenyon Sadiq

Of particular note:
"The interior offensive line class doesn't feature a first-round grade, but there are strong contenders to be selected late in the first round. Penn State guard Olaivavega Ioane ranks as a top-40 player on my board and has the consistent run game and pass protection skills at 6-foot-4, 330 pounds to be a starter in the NFL. Oregon guard Emmanuel Pregnon and Auburn center Connor Lew could push into that range, too."

Of course, this was written before the Combine and some things may change but it makes for interesting comment, IMO.

i do agree but i would add a few more to that list

Delane CB
Ioane OG
Thieneman S
EMW S

The question for the 49ers remains whether to draft for need at LG or BPA. In this case, Miller is saying though there may be some guards chosen, they will not represent first round value on an objective scale (if there is one).

Of course the 49ers do not value guards that highly anyway so perhaps they see Robert Jones being as good as any guard that might be available at #27.

the way they set up FA my guess is they will go BPA

i do think unless you get a blue chip G there are a bunch of OT you can draft that can play G. There are more than a few of those prospects

Both are future needs. However, as we have discussed, an OT than can play guard until we are forced to replace TW, addresses both the short and long term needs. However, both should be high-level goals.

Originally posted by dj43:
Both are future needs. However, as we have discussed, an OT than can play guard until we are forced to replace TW, addresses both the short and long term needs. However, both should be high-level goals.

i dont disagree with the need of an OT to replace TW but i would jsut rather address it in a future draft. I dont like the idea of having to draft an OT to play LG only to move him later. If he underperforms he likely wont play well as a LT. If he performs well we are removing a key contributor and putting him as an unknown at LT and still have to address LG. I think once Trent retires we will move up in the draft and pick an LT we like

Maiocco was making an argument that teams don't draft OT early unless they expect them to start. So if Williams is playing this year, it will be EDGE or WR at #27, with the S as wild card.

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
Maiocco was making an argument that teams don't draft OT early unless they expect them to start. So if Williams is playing this year, it will be EDGE or WR at #27, with the S as wild card.

Doesn't this apply to every single position selected in the first round? Do teams draft a non-OT player in the first round to sit on the bench?

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
Maiocco was making an argument that teams don't draft OT early unless they expect them to start. So if Williams is playing this year, it will be EDGE or WR at #27, with the S as wild card.

Doesn't this apply to every single position selected in the first round? Do teams draft a non-OT player in the first round to sit on the bench?

In most cases, a first round pick should be capable of starting their first year. The only exception would be QB.

It depends how the draft shakes out. IMO, there won't be any OLine guy there who JL/KS feel good about.

They'll wait until the 4th round or later; probably later.

Jones will start.

I'm definitely a BPA rather than forcing a pick. But passing this off for years is also how Trent has the leverage to keep holding us hostage.

John made a comment today that we aren't done addressing the LG spot. Idk if that means that we will draft a guy, trade for a guy, or are trying to get Bitonio or something but i'm glad that it's a priority for the team.

- I think Toth would do an excellent job replacing Brendel (Toth did a really good job at center for the Eagles).
- Puni played with a torn ligament in his Knee last year (I think PCL), which explains his performance. Tough dude but hopefully he's healed up for this year and back to the player we know and love.
- Trent is Trent and Mckivitz is a respectable RT. No issues here.
- Issue is LG - would be cool if we signed Bitonio (unlikely but would be cool) or used a pick on a quality player.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
It depends how the draft shakes out. IMO, there won't be any OLine guy there who JL/KS feel good about.

They'll wait until the 4th round or later; probably later.

Jones will start.

If we dont use the 2nd on an Oline guy, I suspect we most likely will target someone in the 4th with one of our three picks.

For the record I'm firmly in the Max Iheanachor at 27(if he's even there)

I think he's the type of OT prospect Kyle would break his trend for. But I'm curious why Maiocco is pushing no early OL stuff…is it softening the blow for the fans cuz the team really doesn't think they should go OL early if there isn't a guaranteed starting spot or maybe the team is using him to get teams off their scent.

I wish we'd sign a decent edge in FA to make that first rounder not have to be edge. Cuz right now that feels like the biggest need assuming they're not looking at OL there.

Can see a run on the edge class happening before our 2nd rounder comes up and we can't have a dead rush again(tho getting guys back and adding Osa should go a long way) but I'd love for us to get back to just blowing up OLines and making things easier for a secondary that isn't exactly lock down right now.