Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Scoots:
What does not ignoring the offensive line look like? Reaching for players in the draft? Not hiring one of the best OL coaches in the NFL? Overpaying for players to stay at the cost of other positions?
Everybody can see that the line doesn't have stars at every position, but the idea that they "ignore" it isn't supported by the facts that they pay huge money for LT and dedicate a lot of roster space on the 53 and PS to the line, and they have a history of picking up priority UDFA OL whether they draft an OL or not.
Who would you have drafted in this recent draft that would have been better for this team this year on the line?
They could have not ignored the loaded center position in the previous year's draft instead of continually trotting Brendel out there.
This. Makes no sense
Again ... WHO? Not just a general "do something" ... do WHAT? Which player could they have drafted that would have made this team better this year and be worth the pick going forward?
Frazier, JPJ, Limmer, Beebe, Bortolini etc. all guys that were talked about extensively leading up to last years draft
If you spend a high pick on a center then if he's great will be gone for his 2nd contract and if he's not then what was the point?
The question that is so often skipped in this "do something" approach to the OL is that it costs some part of Collins, Martin, Stout, Watkins, West ... and the 49ers openly believe that those players have a bigger impact on winning games than the OL on the board at those picks.
I love the idea of having studs at every position, but people seem to not understand that you can't have everything and they are intentionally relying on their offensive coaches to make that side work with later picks and focusing on athletes Saleh needs on the other side of the ball with the higher picks. Foerster actually said he thinks the team should not spend high picks on the OL.
I wish we could see all the team big boards after the draft and see where the 49ers actually had the OL listed over the years and see that they were likely just unlucky repeatedly in players they liked just not falling to their pick repeatedly. Like last year I suspect they would have jumped on Guyton instead of Pearsall but the Cowboys took him.
lol then using that logic. why spend a high pick on any position ?
and my comment was in response to the poster talking about sitting out that specific strong C draft, in which you responded "WHO!?" Was not talking about this draft . Those guys I mentioned spanned R2-R6, so no not just high picks.
The point about high picks being a waste is in the context of the 49ers not being willing to spend to keep multiple stars on the line and certainly not at center which is the least valued OL position.
You replied to my post.
I didn't say all the players you suggested were high picks. I specifically listed players down to the 4th round that would have been lost to add a center in those rounds.
I wanted the team to trade up in the 2nd for Josh Simmons because I felt he was the only OL player in the draft worth the cost above the 3rd round. When I suggested it people were upset that it was going to be a wasted pick. There is no winning, no matter what the team does some group is going to be upset.
The team has spent 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks on the line, and the criticism doesn't go away. The problem isn't the strategy, it's the results.
If healthy and in shape, why not 